If NX isn't actually there, why the fuck is E3 Bear there?
Nintendo @ E3 - No Direct, Just Zelda Treehouse Stream
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Yeah, I'm a little disappointed we're not seeing the NX version since that's what I'll be buying, but look at it this way: with the coming NX reveal it's like we're getting two E3s this year. And there'll probably be all new additional Zelda news/reveals to go along with the NX event.
I think it's still a good year to be a Nintendo fan (if not a customer at this point).
I think it's still a good year to be a Nintendo fan (if not a customer at this point).
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Rösti
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Attendees/members of the press can pick up their badges beginning 1.00 PM PDT tomorrow Sunday, June 12. Could happen we start to get some photos then (or shortly after, since EA has its press conference at the same time).
Both of which would happen before the Wii U version releases and cannibalizes itself.
Wii U version's DOA already dude. No stopping that. They just can't show the NX version's controls and interface without a proper console reveal.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Nintendo should release the Wii U version months before.
Then show the NX version and how much slicker it looks.
No one will be able to wait that long while everyone else is playing the game.
Business >:O
Then show the NX version and how much slicker it looks.
No one will be able to wait that long while everyone else is playing the game.
Business >:O
Dark Cloud
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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Oatmeal stop crying about NX Zelda.. its gonna be the same game with better visuals. All we excited for is seeing the damn game!
OK say Zelda U only has 4 usable items(not counting stuff like passive items such as the Mogma Mitts, Sailcloth or Golden Scale, or non combat usable stuff like camera, fishing rod or bug net), one of the 4 is automatically the Bow and Arrow already.
So what are the remaining 3 items that you would like to see in the game. Ideally looking for the most unique and multifaceted of items that can used in all aspects of the game and offer up the most varied experience that can be built upon and experimented with.
1. Hookshot/Claw Shots(Easy upgrade progression from one to two, plus distance, always great for combat like pulling armor off enemies, stunning them, as well as exploration and puzzle solving, like reaching levers or vertical platforming.)
2. Dominion Rod/Magic Rod(Could be used in really interesting ways when dealing with "Technological" enemies which Zelda U looks to have. Think using the rod to take control of a part of an enemy and ripping it off them. Plus lots of puzzle and exploration options. Upgrades well too if you can posses multiple things at once, like multiple lockon boomerang, or be like the Magic Rod and turn living enemies on fire, or even other stuff like Ice Rod, Sand Rod, etc.)
3. Ball and Chain( Much smaller though than TPs. Could be really interesting for attacking enemy groups, spinning it around in big sweeping arcs and shooting it out in a straight line. Also could be used for decent effect with exploration and puzzles. Could go in a variety of ways for meaningful upgrades.)
We know there are bomb arrows so that makes bombs somewhat redundant. And a Ball and Chain could be used in other scenarios as well if you don't want to use bomb arrows or have an explosion. Really in my opinion the series needs to limit the usable items we have while expanding their abilities. Zelda often has rather redundant items that could easily be turned into one.
Say left and right on the D-Pad changes items quickly. While up and down, which we've already seen looks like it changes ammo for the Bow and Arrow. Say for the Dominion Rod that changes it's effect too. So in one instance it's like the Dominion Rod, but hit up on the D-Pad and now it acts like the Fire Rod, hit down on the D-Pad and now it's like the Ice Rod. No need for pausing or entering a radial menu or anything to change your item, just seamless in game switching. This way too technically all of the items could be mapped to a button at the same time.
So what are the remaining 3 items that you would like to see in the game. Ideally looking for the most unique and multifaceted of items that can used in all aspects of the game and offer up the most varied experience that can be built upon and experimented with.
1. Hookshot/Claw Shots(Easy upgrade progression from one to two, plus distance, always great for combat like pulling armor off enemies, stunning them, as well as exploration and puzzle solving, like reaching levers or vertical platforming.)
2. Dominion Rod/Magic Rod(Could be used in really interesting ways when dealing with "Technological" enemies which Zelda U looks to have. Think using the rod to take control of a part of an enemy and ripping it off them. Plus lots of puzzle and exploration options. Upgrades well too if you can posses multiple things at once, like multiple lockon boomerang, or be like the Magic Rod and turn living enemies on fire, or even other stuff like Ice Rod, Sand Rod, etc.)
3. Ball and Chain( Much smaller though than TPs. Could be really interesting for attacking enemy groups, spinning it around in big sweeping arcs and shooting it out in a straight line. Also could be used for decent effect with exploration and puzzles. Could go in a variety of ways for meaningful upgrades.)
We know there are bomb arrows so that makes bombs somewhat redundant. And a Ball and Chain could be used in other scenarios as well if you don't want to use bomb arrows or have an explosion. Really in my opinion the series needs to limit the usable items we have while expanding their abilities. Zelda often has rather redundant items that could easily be turned into one.
Say left and right on the D-Pad changes items quickly. While up and down, which we've already seen looks like it changes ammo for the Bow and Arrow. Say for the Dominion Rod that changes it's effect too. So in one instance it's like the Dominion Rod, but hit up on the D-Pad and now it acts like the Fire Rod, hit down on the D-Pad and now it's like the Ice Rod. No need for pausing or entering a radial menu or anything to change your item, just seamless in game switching. This way too technically all of the items could be mapped to a button at the same time.
Empyrean Heaven
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Sorry to put a downer on this thread, but I hope Nintendo dedicates or at least pays tribute at some point during the livestream to Christina Grimmie, a singer and former contestant on "The Voice" who was senselessly shot and killed yesterday. She was a diehard Zelda fan and I bet she was looking forward to watching this.
They don't even know the person, with that logic they should acknowledge Robin Williams.
It's a shame, but if Nintendo acknowledges every Zelda fan at death that downers will never end.
I'd say it's more like we're getting one E3 and one special Zelda event. E3 this year doesn't really qualify as a standard Nintendo E3, judging by what we know (I hope I'm wrong).
The last few months of this year are incredibly exciting as a Nintendo fan though. Hopefully it'll be worth the wait to see all of the NX stuff.
As the wii version of TP clearly showed? And what about a Nintendo portable better than the wiiu?
It is nintendo we are talking about. If there is a clear message is that everything is possible and, hw wise, everything means...everything worst than our expectations
Little Monser
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Pop-O-Matic
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Maybe the reason they're secure in showing off the Wii U version is because the NX is actually a weaker platform and therefor it's version of Zelda would look worse?
Tom Nook Sawyer
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Do we know this for sure? Doesn't the fact it might be using Tegra point to the idea that it may not be that powerful?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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That'd shock me.
We already have someone saying the CPU is better than the Xbox One and PS4's.
Seems weird to then focus your entire show on this DOA release.
Never.
It'll always be worse than expectations, but we have had some 'leaks' say it's at least in line with XBONE.
No. There's a zero percent chance it's less powerful than a Wii U.
RPGCrazied
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So... 2 more days to see this. Watch it be awesome stuff. But then we have to wait another 9+ months? Ugh.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Its the same game, just deal for now. Or keep crying 😢
Both these things are so incredibly unlikely to happen that they'll probably happen.
because Nintendo
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
So just like almost every other game reveal?
RPGCrazied
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But its been delayed like twice.
Like every other 3D Zelda games?
Tom Nook Sawyer
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I didn't argue otherwise; just that it may not be notably more powerful
I'll restate myself. They're showing off the game, but not trying to sell the Wii U with it anymore. The sole reason we'll be seeing the game in its Wii U form is because they haven't revealed the mechanics and interface of the NX as a platform, including buttons, second screen support, online capabilities, etc. Also, they made a dumb gambit back in 2014 by revealing it so early, so they're trying to ease the diehard Wii U buyers' collective pain.
And most games in general.
Council Pop
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For real? Persona 5 has been developed mainly for PS3, despite being released like 3 years after the PS4 came out?!
Were developers putting out slightly enhanced PS2 games back in 2009?
OmegaSmash
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Persona 4 was released 2 years after the PS3 was out, and their entire PS2 line up was mostly built out of the scraps of an XBox exclusive game. Atlus are weird like that. And also, the Wii had "current gen" ports of CoD well until MW3 (they were fun as hell too).
Cipher Peon
Banned
Pretty much all of them, but I remember hating the forest temple for having a spot needed to boomerang out of traditional camera view, hating the command statues because as far as I remember the game didn't remind you when the command was necessary and I took a several month long break and forgot the context of it, and the mirror dungeon thing (by that point my enthusiasm was cratered).
I DID love the Hyrule Temple dungeon, it's my favorite 3D Zelda dungeon. Also I LOOOOOOVED the Triforce Hunt. Gave me a second win to beat the game because it was freaking amazing. It actually encouraged me to explore the world (which I didn't before because the game didn't motivate me to do so) and go through micro dungeons to find small parts of a bigger whole which was GREAT
That's a pretty cool shirt, but I'd never be able to wear it. It would clash with ALL of my wardrobe. Not to mention my hair.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Such a sad picture... missing People
Corporal Hicks
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Guys we need Majoras Mask Moon edits! Dont make me be the first to do it!
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HawthorneKitty
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The TriforceSuch a sad picture... missing People
Mediking
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Reggie doesn't even look genuinely happy at all. That's a red flag aka a warning.
That shirt is super old. They were making that like a decade ago, for sure. I have one lying around somewhere that I wore in college.
Such a sad picture... missing People
Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
This year's e3 is just not the same. Never will be again.I mean, it's a candid photo stephen totilo took of him, it's not like a press release photo of him arriving at E3 or something. Hard to judge. Maybe he just had some bad del taco for lunch.
What is that hammer sprite? I'm pretty sure that's not a Zelda 1 item, right?
Zelda 2. I honestly don't even know if that shirt is official nintendo merch lol. I've had mine for so long I feel like it wouldn't be? But then I doubt reggie would be wearing it.
TonberrysKnife
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The fuck Nintendo? I suppose they are waiting until the Tokyo Game Show for the NX reveal.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
What kind of logic... please stop with that mess.
I never kid.
He seemed genuinely relaxed and happy to me. And pleasant and polite.
Their own separate NX even, more likely.
This makes no sense to me...
FloweryMarston
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it's the nx logo
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
He just awoke, JUST LIKE LINK.
Looks like Gibdo
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