Yes definitely a gay nightclub. Some of the witnesses the reporters have spoken to have clearly been gay and they've spoken to a representative from the LGBT community
Mass shooting at Orlando gay nightclub [50 dead, 53 injured]
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Yes definitely a gay nightclub. Some of the witnesses the reporters have spoken to have clearly been gay and they've spoken to a representative from the LGBT community
That's what the media does with every shooting.
Give their names a slot on a ranking list like its a competition. Their no better than the guys themselves at that point cause they contribute nothing.
Not to mention the shooter gets ranked to "live on" while the victims just becomes nameless dead people.
entremet
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I don't know why people are speculating about the shooter.
Let the facts come in.
Kinda strange that it seems people are hoping the shooters fits some identity. I don't get that logic in these incidences.
It's a horrible tragedy so far. The authorities will do their jobs with shooter.
Let the facts come in.
Kinda strange that it seems people are hoping the shooters fits some identity. I don't get that logic in these incidences.
It's a horrible tragedy so far. The authorities will do their jobs with shooter.
ultratruman
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Flood your country with cheap, easily accessible firearms and we'll see how many 'fucked up individuals' your country has.
The problem with spree shootings in America is not because Americans are rotten people, it's the endemic complacency and dissonance when it comes to gun safety laws.
They mentioned specifically that the shooter was not from Orlando, so I think they know more than they are willing to reveal right now.
Wind's Howling
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20+ death?
Well..... Damn.
R.I.P. to all the casualties and stay safe Ameri-GAF!
Well..... Damn.
R.I.P. to all the casualties and stay safe Ameri-GAF!
Silent Chief
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I would expect US bars to have armed bouncers and metal detectors.
Is that not a thing yet?
Is that not a thing yet?
probably
Freezie KO
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Then we need to work towards making it as difficult as possible to obtain guns, period. Legal or illegal. Ban sales of ammunition, do gun buybacks, whatever.
As for Islamic terrorism, it's still a legitimate threat to cause mass mayhem and death. Look at the Boston bombing. 3 fatalities count to your figure, but 264 injuries with limbs blown off, etc. And of course, San Bernardino.
Both are problems. Especially if Islamic leanings ended up influencing the homophobic hate crime that this looks to be.
SchrodingerC
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Please people, wait until the shooter's ID is clarified before jumping to conclusions.
entremet
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Yep. Please.
Doc Holliday
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I'm sure you can expect a stupid tweet by Donald any time soon.
Such a sad story :/
You go out to have a good time at place where you're free be yourself instead you get gunned down.
Silent Chief
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Only if the guy is a Trump University drop out who sent death threads to Hillary's private mail servers.
UberTag
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Those may not have helped in this instance even if they were in place.
The suspect literally shot his way into the club with an assault rifle.
He didn't subject himself to any sort of on-site security checks.
They've already mentioned terrorism and that the suspect had leanings towards radical Islam.
teacupcopter
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my brother in law and his girlfriend just moved from Australia to Florida for a work posting for three years a week ago. Literally everyone we knew joked about not getting shot in America. I've had multiple texts from people and so has my wife regarding this. This is what the world thinks of you, America.
Oh I'm sorry, it's just we're all jealous of your freedom and second amendment, my mistake.
RIP to the people senselessly killed.
Oh I'm sorry, it's just we're all jealous of your freedom and second amendment, my mistake.
RIP to the people senselessly killed.
soxinthebox
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This is terrible to hear. I hate how a few people (or person) can have such a negative impact on innocent people and society.
That doesn't seem like a reasonable way to deal with the problem.
Intheflorsh
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It's a bit gross to be thinking about this so soon after the tragedy, but it does have interesting implications. Hillary could use this to push an anti-gun message (please), Trump is obviously going to capitalize on the Islamaphobia angle.
Palette Swap
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Yeah, this looks like a Bataclan scenario where there's really not much more the premise could have done.
I know some gaffers are police, maybe they can shed some light concerning protocol and training. I'm pretty sure cops don't just go at a shooter guns blazing at first. Plus if they had automatic weapons, they could get off a lot of shots off in a crowded club before security could even lineup a clear shot.
Doc Holliday
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Abcnews news says it's being investigated as "domestic terrorism"
Best to just wait and see
Edit:
Nm this is from the same press conference
Best to just wait and see
Edit:
Nm this is from the same press conference
entremet
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He is still only the part of the Executive branch. He's not a dictator.
KurtSloane
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Maybe they should start to label other shooters based on their "leanings".
Such as Christian leaning.
Scapegoating the situation already.
There will always be hateful bastards in the world, just don't let then have stupidly easy access to killing machines.
Such a backwards country.
I don't mean in a dictator way, but surely there's something he can do? This has gone on long enough.
entremet
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He can't. He could not do anything after 20 children were killed.
If he couldn't then, what makes you think he could now?
He actually lost his Senate majority since.
holygeesus
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Sure, but if the shootings started at the entrance then it must have happened at quite a pace for so many victims to be hit before the police officer there reacts - the press conference stated the officer did return fire at the time. As I mentioned previously though, that looks a small club to me, and with 300 people inside, it would take seconds.
Doc Holliday
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Depends on the state.
It depends on the state, and in some cases even cities within a state. Here I can drive about 5 minutes to a huge range and store and buy myself an AR-15 and deck it out with custom scopes and rails and what not. There will be a limit on the magazine size. We also can't purchase anything fully automatic, nor make a semi into a full.
Freezie KO
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Most gun murder in the US doesn't even happen with assault rifles. Problem is much bigger than that.
That doesn't matter too much when you can drive between 48 of the states. Buy your mass murder enabler in one state, stick it in the car, drive to the state you want to commit mass murder in.
Ty for the answers guys.
Yeah I know. I just read the attacker used an assault rifle and wondered if was legal to own one.
Yeah I know. I just read the attacker used an assault rifle and wondered if was legal to own one.
To be fair here mass shootings in America are all to common and the 'mass shooting' in France was a terrorist incident.
It might be turn out that this is a terrorist attack too but so far people just assumed it was another crazy with a solo agenda.
Seriously, can you blame the rest of the world? They watch this garbage go on and we do it to ourselves. It must look like a freak show to them
Vicetrailia
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Obama has been trying. In his last speech over mass shooting he said as much. He ranted about the nra, dreaming up new solutions and more. It's incredibly hard because the NRA must be me matched in effort and beaten at its own game.
shinobi602
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Fucking shit, my wife works at a hospital right next to there and she was working, thankfully she's home now. Holy shit... 
((
((If the laws didn't change after Sandy Hook then they sure as hell won't now.
This is domestic terrorism and the police seem to be saying that as well. Another sad day for my country.
Fucking shit, my wife works at a hospital right next to there and she was working, thankfully she's home now. Holy shit...
Glad she's ok Shinobi.
This weekend has been too much.
Doc Holliday
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Pretty much. I have friend who showed me his "little" weapons collection he was able to get from Nevada, he lives in CA, it was something. He's a gun collector so the guns are modified but it was still scary as hell.
ClosingADoor
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The world stands with you when there is a terror attack. But when it is daily mass murders because of your own lack of effort to put any gun control in while that is certainly an issue, people are right to blame your government for not doing more to protect its citizens.
Silent Chief
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It seems to work at the airports. Maybe they need to setup a defense perimeter.
Fantastapotamus
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What a horrible thing...RIP
Fucking hell...
Fucking hell...
Fucking shit, my wife works at a hospital right next to there and she was working, thankfully she's home now. Holy shit...
Oh wow what a horrible night, my thoughts are with her
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