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Giant Bomb @ E3 2016 | WEED3

Did anyone notice that during the GoW demo the only time EXP popped up was when the kid tracked the elk and when the kid killed the elk? Kratos never got EXP.

I'm betting we saw the prologue and the real game is told from that kids perspective a few years down the road.
 
I don't know what the Giant Bomb guys seemed so bummed about. I thought Sony had the best show in recent memory. Tons of cool stuff unveiled, and absolutely zero lulls. No extended speeches or pitches or jabbering. No bragging about how many people are on PSN or their sales in particular countries or territories. The first 20-30 minutes was almost nothing but trailers and demos.

The only thing I could really fault them on was announcing the Crash Bandicoot remaster with nothing to show for it.
 
Quonny said:
Did anyone notice that during the GoW demo the only time EXP popped up was when the kid tracked the elk and when the kid killed the elk? Kratos never got EXP.

I'm betting we saw the prologue and the real game is told from that kids perspective a few years down the road.
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I thought so too but apparently Sony told Geoff Keighley that the game is all Kratos.
 
razgriz417 said:
Seemed to me that the GB crew really expects Sony to champion VR and lead the it forward. not having a strong VR lineup detailed with good demos wax pro about their biggest knock against the Sony conference. Ended with that middling Days Gone gameplay wasn't a good idea either. That being said I still really dug this conference, def above EA, MS and Ubi for me. Lots of gameplay, very little fat, expercted more Japanese titles tho
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They should have used extra time to differentiate their VR stuff, I thought. Like "Hey, we don't have the power of a custom PC but here's how our games are different than the regular VR stuff you find on PC"

Instead we got names, big names mind you but there are just that. Also, what we saw concerning VR looked similar to what VR on steam/Oculus store has.
 
Curufinwe said:
My favorite excuse is when Giant Bombs negativity is ascribed to them being long time industry veterans who are immune to hype. Like Jeff is the only games journalist to attend every E3.

@Andrew_Reiner
I've been to every E3 press conference, and Sony's this year was easily the best one yet. So many great reveals.
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Thanks for these. Keep posting Tweets for other games press. Really fascinating and does not come off as super insecure fan bullshit at all.
 
Holy shit. Going through the Sony stream now, and I didn't think I could be this excited about a God of War reveal. I went from getting Last of Us vibes to getting Dark Souls vibes, and seeing as both are among my favorite IPs from the past decade or so, my expectations for this game are almost definitely going to result in disappointment very soon.
 
I'm watching the Easy Allies stream since GB ended and to get a sense of how other people are covering these conferences. Some guy just rated the conference 4.5/5 stars and everyone blew up at him because it was too low. These guys are just huge fanboys, which is fine if that's what you want, but I can understand coming from something like that and watching a GB stream you might be confused when people don't immediately love everything and actually ask questions about what they just saw.

Also they're all wearing suits.
 
Quonny said:
Did anyone notice that during the GoW demo the only time EXP popped up was when the kid tracked the elk and when the kid killed the elk? Kratos never got EXP.

I'm betting we saw the prologue and the real game is told from that kids perspective a few years down the road.
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Kratos dies in the opening act, guaranteed.
 
I appreciate how GB doesn't get too caught up with the hype, though I definetly disagreed on a few things. And enjoyed this conference the most.

I'm a big Spider-Man fan and having a developer like insomniac, that's being given time and money to make one version of a game is really exciting to me. Not to get ahead of myself but this could be Spider-Man's Arkham Asylum. At least better than the rushed movie-tie ins we've gotten.

Also maybe I'm crazy since zombies have been in the main stream for like 10 years, but I don't play many zombie games and I've always wanted a "realistic single player open world zombie game". The Last of Us was almost that and obviously so much more from a story perspective but, Days Gone actually seems like that specific kind of zombie game that've always wanted but have yet to play. Even if it looks maybe too much like TLOU.

The conference probably could have used more direction, but I dunno I thought it was fine. They set up the conference as being about showing games and reiterated that when they did have people on stage talking. It's disappointing they didn't outline the Neo stuff like MS did with Scorpio, which they did a great job of. Just seems like the crew were expecting more of that? I mean Jeff said before hand he expected games and that's really what we got. I thought the discussion about the demo's really not needing any more info was spot on. Though I don't think leaving a demo like COD with questions about the structure is a bad thing?

And VR, yeah, I don't know how you show that off on stage, last year's attempt by Sony was bad. I think I preferred this route, you really just have to try it I guess.
 
Curufinwe said:
My favorite excuse is when Giant Bomb's negativity is ascribed to them being long time industry veterans who are immune to hype. Like Jeff is the only games journalist to attend every E3.

@Andrew_Reiner
I've been to every E3 press conference, and Sony's this year was easily the best one yet. So many great reveals.
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My favorite is people shitposting in GB threads every year.
 
Curufinwe said:
My favorite excuse is when Giant Bomb's negativity is ascribed to them being long time industry veterans who are immune to hype. Like Jeff is the only games journalist to attend every E3.

@Andrew_Reiner
I've been to every E3 press conference, and Sony's this year was easily the best one yet. So many great reveals.
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God, you sure do have a narrative you'd like to share.
 
Vire said:
Its one thing to have new IP indie games and new IP AAA games. One is a significantly higher risk. Sony has the former as well (Abzu, No Mans Sky etc).
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Now you're just moving goalposts. It went from "The rest of the industry is scared of new IP's." to "Certain developers are scared of new IP's and they're higher risks."
 
Felix Lighter said:
Thanks for these. Keep posting Tweets for other games press. Really fascinating and does not come off as super insecure fan bullshit at all.
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Everytime we have someone go on about how jaded GB are someone should post that Shenmue 3 reaction from last year of the guy acting like Sony came out and said that they cured Cancer and world hunger.
 
Xeteh said:
Give me a legit criticism and we can talk. Saying they're up their own ass because they wanted more information on the games for their VR headset that is hitting in a handful of months isn't one. Its you acting like a troll.
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It's almost like there's a three-day trade show about to start where journalists can try the stuff out firsthand and ask PR people any questions they want.
 
Knox said:
I'm watching the Easy Allies stream since GB ended and to get a sense of how other people are covering these conferences. Some guy just rated the conference 4.5/5 stars and everyone blew up at him because it was too low. These guys are just huge fanboys, which is fine if that's what you want, but I can understand coming from something like that and watching a GB stream you might be confused when people don't immediately love everything and actually ask questions about what they just saw.

Also they're all wearing suits.
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We should go in there and crap up their threads.

not actually
 
Knox said:
I'm watching the Easy Allies stream since GB ended and to get a sense of how other people are covering these conferences. Some guy just rated the conference 4.5/5 stars and everyone blew up at him because it was too low. These guys are just huge fanboys, which is fine if that's what you want, but I can understand coming from something like that and watching a GB stream you might be confused when people don't immediately love everything and actually ask questions about what they just saw.

Also they're all wearing suits.
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Oh no. This isn't going to end well is it?
 
Vire said:
Horizon Zero Dawn
Days Gone
Detroit whatever the fuck it's called
Kojima Game
Spider-Man

All new IPs, something the rest of the industry is deathly afraid of.
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You rightfully deserve to be made fun of for this. Especially since it does nothing but take away from the point you were trying to make.
 
The one thing I will say is that it is weird that Sony had almost zero actual developers on the press conference (I think Kojima was the only one?)

Even EA, who is usually called a monolithic and ruthless corporation, had to have the dude from DICE who has enough clout to announce his own game.

You'd think that at least Guerrilla would at this point have the clout to show off(or at least introduce the trailer) their own game at Sony's press conference.
 
Rats Off To Ya said:
Because a lot of us want to watch the conference without commentary, and then we hop on to Giant Bomb to see their discussion about it.

There's a weird air in here that any criticism of their criticism is unwarranted. I'm a Giant Bomb fan and premium subscriber, but that doesn't mean I agree with absolutely everything they say. Nor should I "stop watching" if I disagree, as I saw somebody else suggest earlier in here.

Hyperbole on both sides.
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I'm in the same boat as you (premium subscriber who doesn't intend to stop watching, which was suggested by far more than just one person). I think there is a disparity between those who watched the conference with their commentary and those who came afterwards to be greeted with defeated looks on everyone's faces.

How I would improve the show:
Slow it down a bit in the middle and let a couple of devs come on.
Show a few large Indie games near the end.
Persona 5.
Maybe end with Kojima.
 
Zen_Arcade said:
Now you're just moving goalposts. It went from "The rest of the industry is scared of new IP's." to "Certain developers are scared of new IP's and they're higher risks."
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When I think of E3, I think of AAA. So I didn't even associate otherwise in my head, I don't really honestly think E3 is the time and place for indie games. Show them at PAX, show them at Gamescom, etc.
 
according to dans twitter they were all down on the sony conference

I understand why. Bunch of literal trailers, few gameplay snippets, but mostly teases(Crash) and trailers(RE7II, Death Stranding, Frontier). Little to no interlude, it was just an hour long sizzle reel.

Definitely a different take on a conference compared to years past.
 
Glitchesarecool said:
I think it's because the people who have followed GB closely for a while (like me!) are so tired of hearing the same stupid lines trotted out by people. You aren't the first poster to observe that they have muted expectations, not the first to think they should have been more enthusiastic for something, etc. Every time a GB thread is made in Gaming, some posters crawl out to make the same points.

They get excited about games, just not always the ones you expect.
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It's also just that Youtube reaction videos and the like has lead to a point where you aren't exited unless you're jumping in your chair and foaming at the mouth. People were saying that were negative on Bethesda, when they were actually surprisingly positive on the whole thing. They just show it by saying "that looks cool" instead of acting like a 10 year old on Ritalin.
 
I'm extremely interested in an exclusive Spider-Man game developed by that people that made Sunset Overdrive. They have movement down, which is always one of the big problems in Spiderman games.
 
Rats Off To Ya said:
It's almost like there's a three-day trade show about to start where journalists can try the stuff out firsthand and ask PR people any questions they want.
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It's almost like they were discussing what was shown on stage, because those conferences are their own entity and are the only thing the vast majority of people get to experience before actually getting the products in their hands.
 
Rats Off To Ya said:
It's almost like there's a three-day trade show about to start where journalists can try the stuff out firsthand and ask PR people any questions they want.
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They were talking about specifically during the press conference but okay, sure. Throwing a couple teaser trailers to some VR "experiences" doesn't let anyone know what those are. It comes off as they're saying that there are these games in these worlds for VR when they're very likely walk and explore these areas with nothing else really there. These press conferences are what get shown to the general public, they don't get to go see those behind closed door interviews and demos. Wanting more information upfront isn't a crazy request.
 
Vire said:
When I think of E3, I think of AAA. So I didn't even associate otherwise in my head, I don't really honestly think E3 is the time and place for indie games. Show them at PAX, show them at Gamescom, etc.
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Bah, the best moment in recent E3 history was when Sony had all those acclaimed Indy teams around the stage and moved the spotlight from one to another.
 
I'm still buzzing with excitement about this new IP "The Spider that is also a Man"

Think of the potential! A man with eight legs and eyes, crawling around behind my laundry machine, patiently awaiting his moment to strike.

What will they think of next!
 
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