Man-is-Obsolete
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Agreed. It's like people saw the Sony conference and forgot there was three days of actual E3 to come.
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Agreed. It's like people saw the Sony conference and forgot there was three days of actual E3 to come.
AnthonypUK
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They also have constant game droughts in the first half of the year, so often have games to show off at E3 that are holiday releases.
Having watched all of the conferences thus far Microsoft's was, for me, by far the most enjoyable and exciting - partly because of the Scorpio reveal, but almost every game looked fun. This even included Gears, which I've never really cared about. Sea of Thieves looks like it has a lot of potential and Horizon 3 did look pretty cool, though given I don't play with any 'real life' friends the drop-in co-op didn't really mean anything to me.
That said, I'm super excited for Nintendo and Zelda later on. I'm really hoping they deliver.
That said, I'm super excited for Nintendo and Zelda later on. I'm really hoping they deliver.
Goldfishking
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Days out 'the most impressive demo of E3'? Seriously, to me it looked like a generic zombie game.
If that was running on PS4, it's impressive on a technical level. But it doesn't look like it's for me.
I thought the hordes looked pretty impressive on a technical level, L4D amped up to WWZ (Movie) heights, but yeah otherwise it looked pretty generic.
I like how Danny says 'realistic' hordes...yeah why are there a bazillion zombies in the middle of nowhere pacific-northwest?
I thought MS's was one of the worst if just for the fact that Gears looks like the most oudated shit ever. Like games as a whole are past games like that.
Not to mention, MS's entire conference was the other half of the PC conference which doesn't go a great job of selling your console
Not to mention, MS's entire conference was the other half of the PC conference which doesn't go a great job of selling your console
Death Metalist
Member
Even though Sony's conference was my favorite(if only for that orchestra), MS's conference is real damn close to being my favorite. I feel it had the best balance of giving info and showing gameplay.
Also, their cross platform message I thought would be for just special titles but it turns out it's for almost all the games they showed off, which is to be commended. They stuck to their guns.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I think if I could pick three games from this show to play right now, it'd probably be For Honour, Steep, and Sea of Thieves, because all three of those just looked like a riot.
It's strange to me that I watch the conference and think "I want a lot of these games" and "I should sell my XBox" at the same time.
It was a great MS conference. It was a terrible XBox conference.
Death Metalist
Member
This is the thing that was brought up the most by the people who I watched the conference with and I think that's why to many people Sony's conference is very impressive because you're seeing experiences only on that platform for that platform.
On the other hand, I have always wanted to play with lets say my cousin who always preferred to play on PC so now that's possible and I'm really excited about it.
Yep, I agree with you on the last paragraph. I'm planning on significantly upgrading my PC so it's very cool that I can buy a game on W10 and potentially have it available on an Xbox down the line.
I think one major hindrance for Microsoft at the moment is their exclusive lineup, though. I feel like Halo and Gears are getting long in the tooth at this point and Halo Wars 2 seems to be appealing to a specific, passionate group of people that like the first one. Sony isn't great on this front either generally so having games like Recore being successful is important for them - or marketing deals like Sony had with Destiny.
Man-is-Obsolete
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If only there was a expo that had tons of demos and developers to interview, and what if that expo lasted 3 days?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Only if for honour guy is narrating over everything.
GitarooMan
Member
Think of Xbox as a platform across console and PC. They are not trying to sell consoles to everyone anymore (because that frankly has failed) they are selling software on a software platform. Like you can buy a Surface as a Windows 10 laptop or you can buy a Dell but you are still using Windows. So you can buy Xbox One S, Scorpio or PC gaming rig to play Xbox platform stuff, they don't care.
Hot Coldman
Banned
They explained their reasons. You don't need to look for excuses.
Oh yeah, I get it. It's just a strange situation as it's not been one I've been in before.
I want to play D&D with that guy.
I don't know why Dan pretended to pour something on Austin's crotch and then Austin pretended to eat it, but I like whatever is going on.
Death Metalist
Member
I wish they just make it a reboot and be done with it. While I would take a horror RE over an action one any day. This still ain't Resident Evil. It's more like Silent Hill, Condemned, P.T, Outlast, Amnesia and a bunch of other FPS horror games. It has the chance to be good, hopefully they learned something after they did the Gun Survivor series lol.
To me Resident Evil was always more akin to adventure/puzzle games mixed with some good cheese and a godly soundtrack with heart racing moments and decisions that could get you killed in an instant.
Death Metalist
Member
The most surprising thing to me was that it was playable and it's releasing this year. Man, October is a fucking nightmare. Tons of games and PSVR.
Isn't he the narrator in game? It's kind of sad to say but he was the best thing about that presentation. I thought their previous presentation was more interesting with your army versus the other player's army in an online match.
The fact that Microsoft is moving away from just one platform and expanding was part of why I liked their conference so much.
I want the most games possible and the less exclusives possible. Exclusives suck.
Sony is just doing business as usual with some nice looking but also derivative games. I don't care if those games are exclusive, that means very little to me.
Microsoft trying to open up Xbox and turning it into a PC is one of the most exciting moves they could've made.
I want the most games possible and the less exclusives possible. Exclusives suck.
Sony is just doing business as usual with some nice looking but also derivative games. I don't care if those games are exclusive, that means very little to me.
Microsoft trying to open up Xbox and turning it into a PC is one of the most exciting moves they could've made.
GitarooMan
Member
Yeah it's definitely weird from my perspective. I've always instinctually bought new hardware and have great nostalgia for the idea of a new console launch but if say I pick up a 1080gtx gaming rig this year in a sense buying Scorpio might only be out of a sense of nostalgia for having a box under the TV. Maybe there will be more differentiating features we'll see. From a personal perspective I like the idea of unique consoles with their own unique games so it's a bit disappointing to see this direction. But from a business perspective it's really the only logical direction
My issue with Days Gone is that I can't really tell for certain what it is. When they first talked about it, I thought 'ok like open world zombie game' like State of Decay. Then they showed it, and it was this weird cinematic game. And it just looked like a Last of Us spinoff the entire time.
What I liked about State of Decay and what I think works with 'zombie games' is that they're very contextual and not cinematic. Your story is the one you create as you go along. I thought State of Decay did a great job with that. The mechanics were part of the story where as the demo for this made the game look incredibly predictable. And like I said, it just makes it look like fake Last of Us. It looks like it has no identity from the lighting to the environments to the characters to the sound.
I'm sad State of Decay 2 likely isn't going to be showing gameplay at E3 because I'd really want to see that.
What I liked about State of Decay and what I think works with 'zombie games' is that they're very contextual and not cinematic. Your story is the one you create as you go along. I thought State of Decay did a great job with that. The mechanics were part of the story where as the demo for this made the game look incredibly predictable. And like I said, it just makes it look like fake Last of Us. It looks like it has no identity from the lighting to the environments to the characters to the sound.
I'm sad State of Decay 2 likely isn't going to be showing gameplay at E3 because I'd really want to see that.
Chris Murphy
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Hmm, watching the GB Sony show now and they are super hyped about Horizon Zero Dawn, more so than any game shown yet at the conferences.
Not getting how people are saying they are down on Sony.
Not getting how people are saying they are down on Sony.
Well, when I tried to watch their Sony video last night, it cut off before the end. So I actually haven't heard much explanation other than Dan's tweets about dull Days Gone. I'll make sure to watch the video when I have time.
Totally. I bought my XB1 Elite this year because there was enough to get through as well as the BC meaning I could sell my 360. I hope they do streaming from PC to XB1 as I'll keep it then as I can use my Elite which I can't on a Steam Link right now.
RepairmanJack
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I think it's because they're able to separate the conference from the games and most people are looking at those as the same things. They left pretty positive on a lot of the games but the conference overall felt poorly paced and bad.
I feel like it's pretty easy to see how that was a bad conference while having some good games to show. I was so hyped and excited about Resident Evil and Spiderman, but by the end of the conference I was left so damn confused and bummed.
Death Metalist
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PuppetMaster
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I loved the Days Gone demo. But I agree Scalebound and FFXV were trash.
MassiveNights
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Dude, people just disagree with them and are saying so, no-one is blowing up apart from you.
RepairmanJack
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Man, I forgot Scalebound. That looks like such an outdated and boring ass game.
Death Metalist
Member
Am I the only one kind of looking forward to that Spiderman game?
It looked alright, the presentation was clearly made just to show off the boss's scale which is the same thing FF did. Terrible demos but they'll be good games at the very least that's for sure. I'm more excited about Scalebound's co-op and of course it's made by the main team at Platinum.
It's only because of Insomniac.
It looked alright, the presentation was clearly made just to show off the boss's scale which is the same thing FF did. Terrible demos but they'll be good games at the very least that's for sure. I'm more excited about Scalebound's co-op and of course it's made by the main team at Platinum.
Yeah, Days Gone looks like the most focus tested thing
'Walking Dead is very big let's make a zombie game'
'Ok so like survival horror'
'nah man, just put zombies in it and make it look like walking dead'
'ok so like zombie games usually have scarce resources so you wanna do that'
'oh yeah definitely put some cool cutscenes where he's like picking up a can to put on his pistol because every little bit counts'
'ok cool. so very little ammo in this world'
'nah man, tons of ammo. we want the players to feel badass. he's like super daryl! also he has an ak47?'
'ok so if he has an ak47 with tons of ammo why does he even use the can on his pistol'
'CAUSE IT LOOKS COOL DAWG'
There's a thread with over a thousand posts in it
it's probably not just you
'Walking Dead is very big let's make a zombie game'
'Ok so like survival horror'
'nah man, just put zombies in it and make it look like walking dead'
'ok so like zombie games usually have scarce resources so you wanna do that'
'oh yeah definitely put some cool cutscenes where he's like picking up a can to put on his pistol because every little bit counts'
'ok cool. so very little ammo in this world'
'nah man, tons of ammo. we want the players to feel badass. he's like super daryl! also he has an ak47?'
'ok so if he has an ak47 with tons of ammo why does he even use the can on his pistol'
'CAUSE IT LOOKS COOL DAWG'
There's a thread with over a thousand posts in it
it's probably not just you
I'm waiting for them to show more, but I think Insomniac could make a great Spiderman game
I mean no? Stream issues (buffering or whatever) doesn't change the tone and overall feel of a conference. I thought the Sony conference was rather bleh as well even though I liked a few of the games that they showed off. I think the problem to me is that the presenter (Can't think of his name right now if that tells you anything) isn't Tretton or even House. He's just boring and makes for a boring conference even when the games and stuff are great.
It amuses me that even though the GB crew were enthusiastic about a few of the games in Sony's conference there are still people who are bothered by the fact that they didn't think the conference overall was that great. They just felt like the conference was lacking a certain something and I agree. I think it also has to do with the fact that there are still plenty of people who haven't gotten past the whole MS vs Sony thing and because GB was relatively high on the MS conference it bothered people that they weren't as high on the Sony one.
At the end of the day though this is just a silly bullshit discussion over a group of people's opinions on whether or not they liked a conference put on by a corporation. Opinions, man.
MassiveNights
Banned
https://twitter.com/DanRyckert/status/742551986701094912
https://twitter.com/DanRyckert/status/742554491883421696
https://twitter.com/DanRyckert/status/742593063080468481
Nobody is saying they are down on Sony and aren't allowed to be but it's undeniable they didn't like the conference.
The pretending they were super positive is almost as annoying to me as the jaded bullshit.
Human Trashcan
Banned
Spider-Man and God of War are the most exciting things I've seen in the whole show so far, for me personally. The thought of a good Spider-Man game, and this LOOKS great if nothing else, makes me giddy.