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Giant Bomb @ E3 2016 | WEED3
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MassiveNights
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Wow, just hearing and reading GB's thoughts on Sony. Really don't agree with them at all.
Thought everything looked pretty good. Dan kind of hating it on Twitter.
Thought everything looked pretty good. Dan kind of hating it on Twitter.
woopWOOP
Member
Huh, there's two uploads for their Sony banter on the Youtube page? They better keep the one that actually archived correctly. I never did see their full commentary on Nintendo last year 
Still pretty funny to see that dislike ratio on just that Sony video. That's going to be a recurring thing isn't it?
Still pretty funny to see that dislike ratio on just that Sony video. That's going to be a recurring thing isn't it?
MassiveNights
Banned
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Huh, there's two uploads for their Sony banter on the Youtube page? They better keep the one that actually archived correctly. I never did see their full commentary on Nintendo last year
Still pretty funny to see that dislike ratio on just that Sony video. That's going to be a recurring thing isn't it?
It's how it is with Sony fans.
MassiveNights
Banned
Video game fans in general.
Yeah I mean I don't agree with almost anything they said on Sony but I'm not going to be a whiny little bitch about it. No idea why people need validation for their own opinions.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I think the FFXVR thing came about just because the fans kept saying "why can't I play as Prompto any more???".
RepairmanJack
Member
I feel like they weren't even negative until the end and talking about the show overall. They were pretty high on a lot of the games but VR, pacing and the structure of the show seemed to be a huge downside and focus because it was most of the last half.
That Days Gone game or whatever it was also seems like the most insane decision to end the conference on. It really just looks like Last of Us: Sons of Anarchy Edition. Couldn't have any less interest in that game.
Exterminieren
Banned
I think Steep is probably the single new game announcement that I want to play above all else this E3. Hits all my buttons.
Am I going to be controversial if I say that as a conference, Ubisoft had by far the best showing this year?
Am I going to be controversial if I say that as a conference, Ubisoft had by far the best showing this year?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It's the most entertaining one just from the For Honour guy alone.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Given all the leering at Cid in that trailer, they are approaching this game with an ENTIRELY different point of view
MassiveNights
Banned
I thought it was weird GB wanted more talking because it's usually the first thing they criticise on these things.
Consumers don't really need hand held through these things anymore, everyone just wants to see the reveals and games. All of the explanation can come later in articles from E3 demos, GB podcasts and interviews etc.
The pacing was great for me. The whole thing felt about half an hour long.
RepairmanJack
Member
Neh, I'd probably put them second behind Microsoft. Which is weird because I have very little interest in either conferences games but they just had really good shows.
MS>Ubi>Sony>Beth>EA for me.
I think they difference is they mostly criticize the numbers bosting and the talk of the Sony synergy crap that they're usually bad about. Talk of the games between games helps with the pacing and understanding of what they're doing with titles. It may not all be great, but nothing but a string of trailers leaves confusion and possibility of games being overlooked or forgotten.
Just look how confused they were with the jump from VR straight into COD. That was just a bad transition that could have used someone talking. And where was the indie stuff that they've been so good at? Getting out there and getting those smaller games in front of a huge audience?
That was beautiful. The tears were magnificent.
I'm basically just like Geoff when it comes to stuff like this. I don't have any of the major three (Sony, MS or Nintendo) dicks up in my ass, so I don't scream like a girl when Shenmue 3 is announced, because it was announced at the press conference for the company I'm fighting for.
I enjoy all companies and I've been a multi console owner since the SNES/Genesis day. Just enjoying E3 as a 100 % neutral is the best thing. So much good stuff everywhere.
I enjoy all companies and I've been a multi console owner since the SNES/Genesis day. Just enjoying E3 as a 100 % neutral is the best thing. So much good stuff everywhere.
He and ESO lady were the best parts of E3 so far.
Jeff killed that segment. Funny stuff.
Death Metalist
Member
Aren't they remaking the first 3 games? If so, that's better than making a new game in my opinion.
e: Yes.
Fantasy Pirate Trainer.
Yeah now everyone can find out what bad games they are.
I thought you might be exaggerating, but Dan said it's the weakest show in several years. I find that genuinely baffling.
Although he is baffled too because he also said.
"I've never seen a bigger disconnect in general sentiment vs. that of the people around me. We were all disappointed."
So yeah, I guess they know that they are maybe the outliers on this one. But opinions and all that.
Death Metalist
Member
Eh, I dislike the first one but love the second and third one. I go back and forth between which is my favorite of the two but it's probably the second one. It's charming, great variety in levels/enviornments and it has memorable bosses(or should I say evil characters). Sweet collectibles as well(fucking crystals), not a bad soundtrack as well.
I can honestly only see improvements when they want to remake it from the ground up, especially if they gave it the attention it needed but who knows they could fuck it all up easily.
Exterminieren
Banned
I will always prefer an announcement of a new game over an announcement of a remaster. No matter how well done it is, I already have these games sitting on the shelf- I'd rather have a new game than an old one.
Don't get me wrong, I'll probably pick up the Crash Collection and enjoy it thoroughly, but for the purposes of last night I'd have 100% preferred a new announcement.
RepairmanJack
Member
Yelling "COOOCAAAAAINE" when the dude jumped out of the helicopter had me crying.
MassiveNights
Banned
I liked Crash Bandicoot when I was 9
Yeah I don't think they were too negative but I will happily disagree with them. Hopefully that's a difference people understand, instead of immediately attacking them as too jaded or the other way with "they're just insightful, not fanboys".
Yeah I don't think they were too negative but I will happily disagree with them. Hopefully that's a difference people understand, instead of immediately attacking them as too jaded or the other way with "they're just insightful, not fanboys".
RepairmanJack
Member
Fuck Crash, give me Spyro!
Death Metalist
Member
Well, the jump from PS1 to PS4 sounds like an upgrade that might as well make them be new games. Who knows what they'll add and all, we'll see. They can make this an incredible collection or just meh all around.
I love platformers, if they were to announced a new or a remastered Spyro, I'd be down. I think we need more platformers on consoles that aren't NINTENDO.
What? Shenmue 3 could have shown up on a fucking Ouya stage and it would have been a similar reaction. Hell, I would probably be owning an Ouya right now.
Seems like such an odd game to make that point with.
Depends if they give it the Ratchet and Clank treatment which was just great in general. Maybe i'm getting my hopes up.
Master_Funk
Member
I love the gb conference stuff, but just cannot see why they thought Sony was the weakest.
superNESjoe
Member
Me too, thought it was absurd how much they hated it.
That quote did genuinely surprise me. I'm all for people not liking this press conference, but the idea that this is worse than when they spent 20 minutes on Powers is something else.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Last year I could almost understand why people got so upset that GB didn't cry out of joy but this year? Sony only really showed the new God of War (which looks good).
Horizon was a known quantity, Detroit was a known Quantity, Days Gone looks baaaaaaad, they barely showed anything of Resident Evil, the VR segment was weak, and we won't see that Kojima thing for years. I see no reason to get super excited this year, to be honest.
It was a good show but nothing special.
Horizon was a known quantity, Detroit was a known Quantity, Days Gone looks baaaaaaad, they barely showed anything of Resident Evil, the VR segment was weak, and we won't see that Kojima thing for years. I see no reason to get super excited this year, to be honest.
It was a good show but nothing special.
Brad Grenz
Member
Microsoft's problem is they have less than half as many games in production as Sony at any given moment, but they still show stuff way too early all the time (Crackdown 3, Phantom Dust, Cuphead, Quantum Break, Halo 5). It only seems different because they also crank out a Forza each year, and a Gears/Halo remake to fill off mainline holiday slots so those don't get announced too far in advance.
They didn't hate the conference at all. The hyperbole is embarrassing. They were definitely impressed by the new direction of God of War, they loved Horizon, and a bunch of them were on-board with Detroit. A lot of the stuff they weren't super hyped by, like Scalebound/FFXV(and even grumpy Gerstmann himself said the game looked better in other trailers) Days Gone/all the VR aside from REVII/whatever the fuck that was from Kojima, is stuff that a lot of people on GAF were iffy about.
And I was definitely one of those who felt they bagged on last years conference a little too much, but I can see their perspective on this. It's not their place to get super hyped on stuff that's YEARS away from release. And nothing here was Earth-shattering. People are just giving in to hype.
Also, they're all allowed to have individual opinions on things. FFS, this thing featured God of War AND something new by Kojima and if Dan still felt it was weak, you can't say he's been blinded by his bias there.
Their criticisms on some of the presentation aspects were on point too. The stuff around the VR/COD stuff was super confusing and getting someone to introduce COD/segue off VR would've helped. And they know VR generally demos poorly, but they discussed the benefit of an on-stage VR demo for something like Farpoint is to showcase how intuitive the shooting mechanics would be with the move controller, something that isn't visible strictly through a first-person demo.
Everything they discussed was rational and made sense. But leave it to GAF to blow up over nothing, just because someone didn't love someone as much as you did. As if you need your enthusiasm validated like a child.
And I was definitely one of those who felt they bagged on last years conference a little too much, but I can see their perspective on this. It's not their place to get super hyped on stuff that's YEARS away from release. And nothing here was Earth-shattering. People are just giving in to hype.
Also, they're all allowed to have individual opinions on things. FFS, this thing featured God of War AND something new by Kojima and if Dan still felt it was weak, you can't say he's been blinded by his bias there.
Their criticisms on some of the presentation aspects were on point too. The stuff around the VR/COD stuff was super confusing and getting someone to introduce COD/segue off VR would've helped. And they know VR generally demos poorly, but they discussed the benefit of an on-stage VR demo for something like Farpoint is to showcase how intuitive the shooting mechanics would be with the move controller, something that isn't visible strictly through a first-person demo.
Everything they discussed was rational and made sense. But leave it to GAF to blow up over nothing, just because someone didn't love someone as much as you did. As if you need your enthusiasm validated like a child.
With Sony, I'm still not entirely convinced by the first party output just for me personally. So while they did the impossible and made me interested in God of War and Horizon looks good, I don't know how many of those games I'll actually play.
That said, it was easily the best conference I can think of in terms of presentation and I hope everyone else takes note. I just want to see games, new games announced and let them speak for themselves. Keep the presenters to a minimum. The way it was presented makes it the best conference of the year for me. I could watch that as a spectacle.
That said, it was easily the best conference I can think of in terms of presentation and I hope everyone else takes note. I just want to see games, new games announced and let them speak for themselves. Keep the presenters to a minimum. The way it was presented makes it the best conference of the year for me. I could watch that as a spectacle.
Congrats to Kojima. I thought his lame weirdness was ho-hum, but that Death Stranding was genuinely weird.
Dan himself said they were all disappointed and had never seen a bigger disconnect between them and the general audience
Dan himself said they were all disappointed and had never seen a bigger disconnect between them and the general audience
Hot Coldman
Banned
Yep. I like Crash for the same reason I like Sonic, for the same reason I'm super excited about Yooka-Laylee - platformers that don't have Nintendo's tried-and-tested flavour are rare and precious and we need them.
Omnistalgic
Member
People keep forgetting Sony have other shows too...
This year E3 was great, dont care about what GB thinks, Sony has a ton of praise coming there way from media outlets. Everyone entitled to their opinion.
GitarooMan
Member
Like usual they were pretty positive on the tangible stuff like God of War and Horizon and less so on the vague stuff like the unexplained VR "experiences" and fluff trailers. I think like a lot of Sony conferences it started strong and lost steam and that colored the post show. But they were not down on the whole thing during it.