KurtSloane
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No one said they were, we are talking about the authorities.
Shots fired at Police during Dallas Police anti-violence protest (5 officers killed)
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No one said they were, we are talking about the authorities.
TheLostBigBoss
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ok, but what is the news?
that police escorting a peaceful protest should have been wearing full riot gear? This is a rather common argument, that our police forces aren't protected enough or something, when in reality unless these officers were prepped to be in a god damn firefight with a long rifle, nothing would have protected them. Riot gear isn't going to do anything to protect them from a rifle.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Female in custody is "light-skinned African-American" according to Dallas mayor.
FUBAR McDangles
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Last I saw he was seen in a video recorded right as shots started. He was as shocked as everybody else.
His brother was interviewed later on and told reporters that the guy in camo that was in all the pictures, his brother, immediately went over to an officer and turned over his gun and then went home.
KurtSloane
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Its actually a racist assumption.
cartoon_soldier
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I should stay off Twitter today now.
It's just a small piece of information to paint a picture of last night. You're placing qualifiers on the riot gear, not me. I gave ZERO indication they would have helped.
Completely uninvolved. People used news footage and twitter to exonerate him. In the end, they managed to create a timeline of basically all his actions as the shooting occurred, including footage of him not firing his guns as the shooting started.
They actually have footage of it, too. The guy, Mark Hughes, was interviewed by Ch 11 CBS in dallas.
Yeah. He wasn't involved.
4chan floated his image. Reddit ran with it. Police subsequently got flooded with "witness accounts" that he was firing his rifle during the shooting.
In reality, the gun was not loaded and he handed it to police, which was captured on video.
J_ToSaveTheDay
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yes that was absolutely the most disturbing element of that footage.
I hope people can remember that the protesters and police were supportive of each other. That should be the narrative. Crazy but calculating people fucked it up after the protest ended. Don't blame the BLM movement.
It won't stop some people.
God I really hope this is what it's starting to look like. :/
Why are you more concerned with the trauma experienced by the officers at traffic stops than the murder victims? Whatever goodwill you had with this post is completely erased with this glaring omission. Are you too blind to see the mistake you just made, and as part of law enforcement, no less? Good lord, dude.
People here were tripping all over themselves to post that reddit/4chan sourced garbage. Fucking ridiculous.
lifeexpectancy
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Yeah I know, was just trying to be minimally antagonistic. Attitudes like that ought to provoke instant bans. (Not trying to moderate mods, just an opinion of which I wont speak further). But yes, his/her assumption that the poster was a white from the suburbs was straight up bigoted at least, and downright racist at worst.
And unfortunately I'm seeing a lot of similar assumptions in this thread.
TheLostBigBoss
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I do hope that in the end this is a militia that was well trained and organized, so that it can be easy to make the point that these weren't protestors and simply a violent, anti-government group that used a protest as an opportunity to kill officers.
I mean, I can't think of anything else that it could be. It's not random people who got some guns, and considering we have 3 people still alive I imagine a lot of info is going to come out in the next 24 hours
I mean, I can't think of anything else that it could be. It's not random people who got some guns, and considering we have 3 people still alive I imagine a lot of info is going to come out in the next 24 hours
UncleSporky
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Dude I saw this, you quoted the whole post initially and then realized they sounded too human and distressed in the rest of it, so you edited it down? smh.
They said "for EVERYONE involved." Why are you dogging on this person going through a tough time, trying to cope right along with everyone else?
wesleyshark
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This.
But apparently your thoughts were with the "shaken" officers who decided to pump 4 bullets into him as though it were a "tragic accident", and not a deliberate decision to try to murder someone.
That ridiculously blnkered view is exactly what preserves the systemic racism in the police force.
CyclopsRock
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Unless they know more than we do, it's hard for them to say anything when they don't really know what's going on. There were still guns being fired just hours ago. What are they meant to say, "death is sad"?
The way I read his post is that the shootings were disturbing because of race implications, and disturbing because of how shaken the cop was. I.E. the cop's cowardly actions and demeanor were disturbing. Not that the poster felt sympathy for the cop.
But I could have misread it.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Other than generic condolences, it's probably for the best until the initial investigation is completed.
Social media is soul crushing and exhausting, only setting yourself up with disappointment when a crisis happens
He just replied to another post just like yours.
There are probably hundreds of thousands of different tumblr communities. You need to find some better ones.
First and foremost, I am black American who was born from Nigerian immigrants, so please get out of here with that ignorant ass comment.
I spent a good portion of my life living in Nigeria. I know all about how life is there. People are literally killed in the street and the day just goes on like normal. The police are carrying AK-47s around like a standard pistol. You keep your words short with strangers because you don't know whether or not they are trying to rob and murder you. When the rolling blackouts start to happen you wake up and watch the windows because you don't know if someone is going to try to loot you tonight. You don't know shit about how me and mine lived fam.
I'm watching the news and I'm seeing the same violence I saw in my time there. Yes, it is better, but it's not that much better when we still have people killing each other in the street in broad daylight.
Sadly, no one answered you. Would have liked to know that as well.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Social media sites all around are probably best to avoid if you want to stay sane.
Agent_Carnage
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Protip Never go on Social Media during events like this. As Assholes will be assholes.
elrechazado
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Injured officer died, not another event.
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He held it back but you could feel it
He held it back but you could feel it
J_ToSaveTheDay
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I assumed that the actual incident itself speaks volumes about the tragedy of the victim, and I do apologize for the apparent omission. And yes, working in law enforcement, believing and admiring the role of law enforcement in free society makes me pay attention to the officer's situation as well as the citizens and victims involved in police interactions. I have a duty to acknowledge all levels of the interaction in order to perform my duty better.
I have been in law enforcement for just a few days over a year and I have been Black Lives Matter sympathetic since before beginning my law enforcement career. I fully disclose that I have not been aware of the plight of black people interacting with law enforcement for my entire life. I have not been involved in law enforcement for very long.
You are welcome to question the extent of my empathy. You are right to highlight the omission here -- but I truly felt it was obvious in just acknowledging the situation at all that the core of the tragedy is the victim involved, and it is my open mistake that I did not explicitly mention that. The victim's suffering and eventual passing is absolutely the most horrific element of the incident. If I must state it late and with less than the ideal level of tact, then I absolutely extend my empathy to the victim and his surviving loved ones.
But yes, I do pay attention to the way it has affected the officer. I have an interest in that aspect. I extend my pity and empathy to his levels of stress as he realizes the gravity of his actions, as he witnesses the passing of another human being and the suffering of that victim's girlfriend, even under suspicion that his actions were motivated by unreasonable fear and hatred -- racism. His shortcomings as a human being that resulted in that victim's death are just as interesting to me as the fact of the death itself. I believe that acknowledgment helps me grow to be a stronger and more effective member of law enforcement.
I am not in this career to exert authority or high-and-mighty moralism. I believe in the core "serve & protect" ethos.
You may question my dedication to that. I will just keep trying to prove your assumptions wrong.
Empyrean Heaven
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Hasn't stopped the usual talking heads. Most are sure this was a response and some are even connecting it to black lives matter.
tkscz
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I wasn't aware this was something going on when I first woke up. So when I get on there and saw that...
Indeed. No doubt the people responsible for the ambush knew their actions would drive a knife right into the heart of the already fragile reality of the divide between the police and minorities.
I'm sure Omar Matteen, crazy as he was, knew that he'd scare people by just mentioning ISIS even though he apparently had no tangible link to them.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Everybody on CNN getting emotional this morning.
Thanks. Would have been even more terrible otherwise.
Mr. Giggles
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Just heard this on the news, RIP to the fallen officers.
Presenter said this was a formulated attack on the police, also said they caught one of the guys.
Any news on why they attacked, or anyone who took responsibility yet?
Presenter said this was a formulated attack on the police, also said they caught one of the guys.
Any news on why they attacked, or anyone who took responsibility yet?
Time to stop posting.
The frequency of deaths is wildly different even though it's still a disturbing trend that while crime overall has been going down year over year in the past 15 years gun shootings have been growing. We're not anywhere close to what you're describing at a national level even though certain towns and cities have it really as bad as you claim.
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