Well the good thing about the 24 news cycle, in a week this will just be a footnote
Shots fired at Police during Dallas Police anti-violence protest (5 officers killed)
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Big Baybee
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Yea, this was my point. No idea why some guy responded to my post with all lives matter. People are dumb and this shooting is an excuse to double down on dumb shit.
wesleyshark
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I work in corporate security and with a lot of excops. The atmosphere in our office today is pretty charged.
ultrazilla
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Not to diminish the alert, they can be real....but they have these *almost* on a weekly if not daily basis.
andthebeatgoeson
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Blm is only done if we allow ourselves to give up. I support them. They encourage me in many ways. Sure, they make mistakes.
But there is no rule book on protest. You make it up as you go along. You use the ideas of others.
There were three marches in Selma. They got their ass beat the first time.
And they came back two days later.
Keep fighting.
But there is no rule book on protest. You make it up as you go along. You use the ideas of others.
There were three marches in Selma. They got their ass beat the first time.
And they came back two days later.
Keep fighting.
what a fucking asshole
Already Torn
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Just say the apparent motivation. Ughhhhh
MSNBC says unconfirmed report of a woman with a gun.
That means nothing, they lock down the place if some looks at you the wrong way
ultrazilla
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And honestly, that's crazy. I'm sorry but if I'm an officer assigned to ANY rally or protest(no matter what it is) I'm requesting full body armor. That's just common sense. It's been established they're targets now. Disagree with the chief and I'm sure the police union will too.
It's severely disappointing. Lots of people can't get past the knee jerk reaction of it all, like the violence cancels out somehow. It doesn't.
Personally I don't think the Dallas shootings are a huge setback. There was nothing to set back. Sure, people can "use" it to justify their hatred of the anti police brutality campaigners but what else is new? We already know that black/poc victims have to be absolutely 100% perfect both as individuals and as a collective in order to be worthy of empathy. The marijuana the deceased smoked years ago will always turn out to be his death sentence after the fact. If not the Dallas shooting something else would be used to justify calcified viewpoints.
shadow_shogun
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It seems they only come out when white people get killed.
There are ways to get around law by affecting the implementation/practice of a right. For example, poll taxes/voter registration shit, war/emergency powers, etc.
MSM is trash. Don't hold your breath, they'll do whatever brings in more money for their shareholders.
I feel bad for the few left working in journalism trying to do the right thing. But history isn't going to be kind to what's happened to the profession in the last 20 years in the name of profit.
One tweet from Donald Trump will change all the media coverage.
pretty much.
he's already (smartly) gave his social media accounts to a handler for the day
his response this morning was measured and respectful
Nah, not true.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I was feeling super crummy yesterday after the Minnesota shooting. The first thing that cheered me up was seeing how well the Dallas PD was respecting BLM's right to protest. It wasn't a warzone like Ferguson was. Just humans treating each other like humans. This could've been used as a shining example on how to handle things in the future, and instead it's been marred by this monster's actions.
I guess I have no choice but to find peace with this. No matter what the intention, people who want to push a dismissive agenda were going to push it anyways. It already happened in NY, somebody was going to attempt to escalate things further. It was inevitable. For everyone out that believes in BLM's message, please don't lose hope. This is going to be an uphill battle regardless of what happens.
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Wait for it... it will happen
andthebeatgoeson
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You can't.
Which is funny because they don't even really care about white lives. All lives matter just means 'let's shut up and keep the status quo.' They'll mention police killing white people, not as a protest but to get us to stop talking about any police killings.
It's a cowardly response.
Yep. Shameful.
For any people here thinking that, black lives matter too. Sucks with the new details but as I said last night, I will always believe in the movement and message.
Camp Freddie
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I'm pretty sure that controlled explosions are a small shaped charge directed at the trigger/detonator. The objective is to blast the trigger/denotator away without triggering the main charge.
Rigging it to be used as an offensive weapon sounds possible, but it sounds like some crazy improvisation.
I'd create some elaborate joke about the ironic bomb-disposal robot, but this situation is fucked up beyond belief.
I seriously hope that people over there can keep a cool head that this tragedy encourage the police and public to pull together in shared grief.
BFIB
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Thanks a lot asshole for resetting the clock. For the first time, we had a Governor specifically bring race into the discussion with police. It seemed like the goalposts had at least moved a little towards the excessive violence actually being an issue here.
Now in one fell swoop, this asshole wiped all that away, and now it'll be all about killing the BLM movement, and the death of 5 police officers and one black man's hatred for white people.
Now in one fell swoop, this asshole wiped all that away, and now it'll be all about killing the BLM movement, and the death of 5 police officers and one black man's hatred for white people.
Gotdatmoney
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If they militarize the police on response to peaceful protest what message is that sending? Thebpolice chief is correct here. You're not going to intimidate any bat shit insane person by puttimg the cops in riot gear. You only serve to make the populace more afraid and intimidated. Which in turm is just goimg to justify general populace's distrust in law enforcement. The proper course of action is to contimue as is.
Jawbreaker
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I know people were looking for this last night, so here's what Trump has to say via Twitter and Facebook (as always, avoid the comments):
https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10157277205810725
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/751370918027489280
Edit: Whoops, already posted.
Much better than I was expecting from The Donald.
https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10157277205810725
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/751370918027489280
Edit: Whoops, already posted.
Much better than I was expecting from The Donald.
Already Torn
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Yeah, that really confused me. Seemed like he was advocating for someone else with tbe last part.
I wouldn't be surprised if the intent was to disable/disorient the suspect and the charge prove more effective than thought.
I sincerely hope you're not an American and asking that question. Separation of powers exist for a reason.
Byakuya769
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Yep. Not to mention that this all happened at a peaceful protest and to a police department that is very serious about community policing and relationships.
Wow that's actually a very classy and respectful responce. So basically no way Trump wrote it.
Already know that didn't come from him for sure which was probably a smart move.
wesleyshark
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No. And no one should have that power.
Skellig Gra
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No and if he could/did, that would make things so much worse.
Who are these mythical people who thought, "you know, I sympathized with your movement about police murdering black people, but I can't anymore because you spit on a flag"?
Who leads BLM? I get that the movement is in it infancy but I'm thinking it's well last time they look towards tighter organizing and towards finding a leader who can represent them and speak for them.
You need someone to push the agenda as a spokesperson, and someone to calm people and focus when emotions are running high. And to loudly disavow violence.
Dr King was that man in the 60s. Who will step up now?
Despite the situation on both sides hopefully another protest can be organized and the police still come out and support and stand by the protestors. It'll certainly be more heavily guarded but it would be the right time to push forward progress not set it back it would be the right thing to do.
It's a shame that a bunch of idiots did this senseless shooting yesterday and it's also a shame that those two black men lost their lives for no reason and the situation is pretty much sad all around. Hopefully this time the progress moves forward but with the media it probably won't it's already fear mongering all around and the second any protest tries to start it will only get worse.
It's a shame that a bunch of idiots did this senseless shooting yesterday and it's also a shame that those two black men lost their lives for no reason and the situation is pretty much sad all around. Hopefully this time the progress moves forward but with the media it probably won't it's already fear mongering all around and the second any protest tries to start it will only get worse.
7DollarHagane
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The majority of police don't want to kill black people or any people if they can avoid it. The majority want to keep everyone safe and deal with people in a respectful and friendly way. They don't always get that opportunity but it makes their job easier when they do.
The majority of people, no matter the race don't want to kill police. They treat them with respect and rarely have to interact with them at all.
As long as the majority doesn't stay silent we can get past these incidents caused by the minority of vile people who think violence will solve things.
Already Torn
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There's a pretty graphic news clip of him. It doesn't end well.
old manatee
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This fucking guy.
Since when did they needed a reason? By the way if you start going to Group A does this -> Group B reacts as a response -> Group A reacts as a response -> Group B reacts as a response, you become Israel-Palestine.
Nemesis121
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Obama and every president before him and after are all puppets to congress, he can't do shit without congress, and if the asshole gun lobbyist keep filling the pockets of certain players in congress nothing will be done about guns..
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
nvm.
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