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[OrbitalBeard]

If NX fails, they're going mobile only. There will be no third party Nintendo games on PC, Playstation or Xbox. That's what he's saying.

If that's what he's saying, he's wrong.

but i thought nintendo was doomed if they released their games on mobile

No one ever actually said this and you know it.

Its really sad that Nintendos success these last few years has been tied to gimmicks and bullshit. They make quality games but dont have the slightest bit of business sense when it comes to the core gamers that made their company popular. Best they can seem to do now is release gimmicks and fads and hope they catch on. I mean im glad they are getting financial success which means hopefully they will keep making the good games they are known for, but this whole mobile shift isnt promising.

Unless the excitement for Breath of the Wild completely dies out by its launch, it's fairly obvious that Nintendo can still create "core" experiences that excite people.

 

[Anth0ny]

but i thought nintendo was doomed if they released their games on mobile

 

[~Kinggi~]

Its really sad that Nintendos success these last few years has been tied to gimmicks and bullshit. They make quality games but dont have the slightest bit of business sense when it comes to the core gamers that made their company popular. Best they can seem to do now is release gimmicks and fads and hope they catch on. I mean im glad they are getting financial success which means hopefully they will keep making the good games they are known for, but this whole mobile shift isnt promising.

 

[Dennis]

Pokemon Go(ld)

 

[Vena]

They will eventually transition after this success I imagine.

More aptly they will look to further push into the realms of "games for mobile" as in games designed around the advantages and capabilities of mobile phones, not move their games to mobile. Pokemon GO is very, very different from Pokemon S&M for instance. I don't expect the grandmas I've now met twice in two days, who are having a hoot playing GO, to have been anywhere near as vested in Pokemon S&M or a game like it on mobile. They don't need complex mechanics, they just want to catch Pidgeys.

I expect similar things to be the case with mobile AC and mobile FE.

As was noted by Nirolak, Nintendo is hoping for exposure + profits + knock-on affect to splash onto their dedicated goods where they don't pay royalties and see great returns per copy sold.

 

[Tobor]

Mobile was always a good fit for Nintendo. I would argue that mobile is the natural evolution to what they started with DS

HOWEVER, Nintendo probably doesn't like they have to give a royalty to Apple and Google and they don't like they can't sell games for $40. They will eventually transition after this success I imagine.

Transition to what? There is nothing to transition to.

The reason this game is a huge success is that it works on hardware we all own. Full stop. Put this game on dedicated hardware and it's not a phenomenon. Not even close.

Like it or not, this is the future of Nintendo. We've already got the hardware in our pockets.

 

[CentralScrutinizer]

Its really sad that Nintendos success these last few years has been tied to gimmicks and bullshit. They make quality games but dont have the slightest bit of business sense when it comes to the core gamers that made their company popular. Best they can seem to do now is release gimmicks and fads and hope they catch on. I mean im glad they are getting financial success which means hopefully they will keep making the good games they are known for, but this whole mobile shift isnt promising.

They're releasing Pokemon Sun/Moon in November.

 

[BocoDragon]

So basically their success is coming from making third party games on mobile.

Its what everyone told them to do all along.

 

[Ricerocket]

Nintendo: Please stop hamstringing yourself by insisting on making hardware. Sky's the limit for your software when not suppressed by your shitty platform decisions.

They really should go software...their games are good, everyone should get to play their games, I don't know why they think they should limit themselves to creating a playerbase around a specific device. It's stupid imo as a business.

 

[RPGam3r]

Man, I remember stockholders imploring Nintendo to go mobile years ago, and people kept talking about what idiots those people are, and how it would be the end of Nintendo if they did that.

There are many ways to interpret the word "end" in this context.

 

[RedAssedApe]

so weird. nintendo with lightning in a bottle again...i never understand the ebb and flow of stocks.

 

[RagnarokX]

Nintendo needs to release those minigames from Mario 64 DS on mobile.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Even when Nintendo is succeeding, some have to spin it to a negative...

This is great and shows how even on mobile Nintendo can dominate. Hopefully they take the money and use some for NX core games.

 

[Waylon Drums]

How much of this is actually Nintendo? Isn't Pokemon owned by a few companies?

 

[GregLombardi]

so weird. nintendo with lightning in a bottle again...i never understand the ebb and flow of stocks.

Pokemon was always lightning in a bottle. They just kept the bottle on the shelf for WAY longer than investors wanted them to.

I'm an investor in Nintendo stock. While the app itself is worse visually and execution wise than perhaps I wanted, the reaction to the gameplay and the ability of the software to bring people together is well beyond my wildest dreams. I couldn't be happier.

And as a gamer...as a gamer I want to cry. Satoru Iwata is once again helping to change how we view software, and it may be the last time he does it.

 

[Eolz]

Title should be changed at this point, since it's just the one day rise that is at its highest, not the stock itself (that was higher during the wii days).
Anyway, that's really good for them, and hopefully it'll stay good or keep rising. Stocks keep changing.

 

[Speevy]

What if Nintendo released its own smart phone with two screens?

On one screen you could talk to the Pokemons, and on the other you could talk to the peoples.

 

[Basileus777]

Yeah.

Pokémon GO is competing with Twitter's userbase, does anyone seriously expect that success to carry onto ANY other IP?

Can a series as popular as Mario Kart succeed on a platform without real controls? Maybe Nintendo could make a controller add-on. Who knows?

Or they can have their own platform where they don't have to give 30% royalties to anyone. Have real controls, and better battery life?

Real controls, better battery life, and no royalties don't mean much when you are reaching a fraction of the audience.

What if Nintendo released its own smart phone with two screens?

On one screen you could talk to the Pokemons, and on the other you could talk to the peoples.

Who uses a phone to talk to people?

 

[Dark Cloud]

They really should go software...their games are good, everyone should get to play their games, I don't know why they think they should limit themselves to creating a playerbase around a specific device. It's stupid imo as a business.

So, you think everybody, all Big 3, should develop for every system?

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Real controls, better battery life, and no royalties don't mean much when you are reaching a fraction of the audience.

When it comes to Nintendo, it's so weird to me that for some it's either "100% console" or "100% mobile".

It should be both and it will be.

 

[GloriousBagel]

Nintendo's IP is really valuable, can't wait for them to go third party.

 

[TheDinoman]

Nintendo's IP is really valuable, can't wait for them to go third party.

Holy shit this thread lol

 

[MisterHero]

Real controls, better battery life, and no royalties don't mean much when you are reaching a fraction of the audience.

The games have a better experience and have people willing to pay $40 for them. It's not 100 million users on mobile but it doesn't have to be.

Pokémon GO could've been a sidemode in a mainline game. If only 3DS/its successor had GPS (and data plans I suppose).

It should be both and it will be.

I agree with this; my stance is just not to bank on mobile.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Sending the message loud and clear for them to stop making consoles once the NX flops

 

[DR2K]

This statement makes me sad and scares me on Nintendos future.

Unless the mainline Pokemon bombs horribly there's nothing to worry about.

 

[MomoQca]

Nintendo's IP is really valuable, can't wait for them to go third party.

I just cringed. Thank you very much.

 

[Greenzxy]

I want Nintendo to succeed. So this is good news.

 

[Chinese Cartoons]

Why is this surprising so many people this works? pokemon can transition to pervasive augmented reality but not all games will work like go has.

 

[Basileus777]

When it comes to Nintendo, it's so weird to me that for some it's either "100% console" or "100% mobile".

It should be both and it will be.

Yeah that will be the future, at least in the short-term. If the NX underperforms then I imagine plans will change, but for now it still makes sense to have their hands in both pots.

 

[Eolz]

Oh lol, here we go again with the "they should go third party!" bad arguments... that was quick.

 

[DeuceGamer]

If NX sinks worse that the Wii U and so does it's successor, then Nintendo has nothing to lose. However, even a modest success can make Nintendo billions and then get so much more on software, so they won't let that go unless they are left with no other option. What they are doing is trying to keep up with the times. Mobile can help with the brand awareness needed to revitalize them, which is was what Iwata was talking about. Give people a taste of the brand, get them to like it, and then let them know where they can get more (aka Nintendo hardware). I know Mobile is a dirty word for a lot of people, but what Nintendo is doing at the moment with the Wii U and how they handled the later half of the Wii isn't working for them.

For right now, though, this is a great revenue stream and helps a ton with brand awareness for those who have fallen away from Nintendo in the past five or ten years. Add in some well made movies for their biggest franchises and merchandise it correctly and Nintendo is looking at a boat load of money coming in from all sides.

Yea, they diversified to protect themselves so I wouldn't expect them to throw all their eggs in the mobile basket unless it's really their only option.

 

[reelbigtink]

Holy shit this thread lol

Seriously, they have to be trolls.

They aren't going 3rd party any time soon. Sorry.

 

[Tobor]

So, you think everybody, all Big 3, should develop for every system?

The big two are Apple and Google. Sony and MS already develop for them.

 

[Berordn]

Nintendo's IP is really valuable, can't wait for them to go third party.

No need to wait, you're already there. Pokemon Go, Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing and Miis/Tomadachi Life in your phone.

Nintendo. Third party.

 

[themagicalkitsune]

Nintendo needs to release those minigames from Mario 64 DS on mobile.

Been saying that for a while and many people here share the same sentiment. Here's hoping

 

[Dark Cloud]

The big two are Apple and Google. Sony and MS already develop for them.

I'm glad everybody is third party.

 

[massoluk]

Nintendo's IP is really valuable, can't wait for them to go third party.

They really should go software...their games are good, everyone should get to play their games, I don't know why they think they should limit themselves to creating a playerbase around a specific device. It's stupid imo as a business.

Nintendo: Please stop hamstringing yourself by insisting on making hardware. Sky's the limit for your software when not suppressed by your shitty platform decisions.

Sigh... And here we go with Nintendo going Third Party

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

bagel 👏 is 👏 joking 👏

 

[HyperCroutons]

That's pretty impressive! I expect they'll look pretty good when the NX and Zelda BOTW get released too seeing all the hype for that game currently. We'll see if Nintendo can capitalize on that hype.

I think Zelda BOTW is going to be big on Twitch and YouTube when it comes out probably end up being like the Skyrim phenomenon from years back.

 

[Tobor]

I'm glad everybody is third party.

Me too! It's a great time to be a gamer.

 

[Stumpokapow]

tbqh probably going to wait a few pages and then give me kubler-ross stages 1 through 5 tags

 

[GregLombardi]

Haha, as an investor and gamer...there's a place for mobile and there's a place for home devices that hook up to a very large television guys.

There can be both! Mobile has a lot more easily achievable upside, so it was dumb for Nintendo not to be in the game.

But there can be both!

 

[AniHawk]

Real controls, better battery life, and no royalties don't mean much when you are reaching a fraction of the audience.

it means a lot actually. if mario kart 8 sold 5 million copies and nintendo made $30 off each copy sold, they'd make $150,000,000 in profit off the game before overhead, taxes, etc. how many users and in-app purchases would be needed to match that after royalties?

 

[BY2K]

Nintendo's IP is really valuable, can't wait for them to go third party.

Technically they already are.

On mobile, that is.

Gaming consoles, though? Not happening.

 

[Vena]

Real controls, better battery life, and no royalties don't mean much when you are reaching a fraction of the audience.

A fraction of the audience that also pays 40$ rather 0$ + unknown sums of money in IAPS, usually dominated by a select few whales. 15m copies of Pokemon sold on the 3DS is $600m before we cut out retailer shares, so let's say $450m making it way back home. Plus it moves hardware (profitable) and accessories to some degree and some of that will be pure digital and drives other digital services (PokeBank).

That, much as Pokemon GO generates as well, is a lot of money.

So why not both?

 

[Popnbake]

... This game is only a week old. Will it have staying power or is this a Flappy Bird phenom?

You can't predict the mobile market. I will be legit impressed if this game hangs around in the public eye.

But yeah this does seem like Wii Sports all over again. It will not be long until we seem AR mobile game imitators.

Flappy Bird's creator killed it right when it was getting successful so we don't know how far it could have gone.

 

[Ricerocket]

So, you think everybody, all Big 3, should develop for every system?

Sony and MS doesn't have something as big as Pokemon... Last of Us on Mobile uhh no? Halo on mobile? no.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

Sony and MS doesn't have something as big as Pokemon... Last of Us on Mobile uhh no? Halo on mobile? no.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

I was so sure of this, I told a person that goes into stocks last year. You must must do stock in nintendo.

have been sure on it for a while, wish I did stocks.


Also, of course they didnt listen to me and didnt do the stock

They do other stock in game companies in china though, but I told them... very clearly, must do it. just do it.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Sony and MS doesn't have something as big as Pokemon... Last of Us on Mobile uhh no? Halo on mobile? no.

They've developed for mobile already.