Business Insider: Nintendo's stock rose 33% since Friday. It's highest since 1983.
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You just wait until Mighty No GO takes the world by storm!
Bitch Pudding
Member
I hope Nintendo uses all that money from their upcoming mobile business to cross-finance their home console endeavors...
Pretty sure that's what this is for honestly. It's about bringing back that mindshare they lost over the last few years.
I just spent the weekend walking around Michigan State University's campus. Just about everyone under the age of 40 were walking around playing Pokemon Go. Strangers are talking to each other, getting tons of exercise, and are positively talking about Pokemon. This is massive for the franchise and can drive some real growth in their traditional games markets.
Jawbreaker
Member
I'm going to guess they meant Flappy Bird, 'cause ...
I just think it's funny that everything Nintendo does successful is looked at as catching lightening in a bottle. When if you look at the steps they've taken to not only fund, this app but apparently all the dealings behind the scenes in planning they new this was going to be a big hit. One of the reasons it had a Super bowl spot and also why Nintendo brought and focused on Zelda at e3 and it was all the rave! Yes they have made some mistakes in the past, but people that write them off as some lucky bastard of a company who steps in something successful once in awhile by accident, is selling them short.
Kimishima has been stating for a year now that the plans they have in place would see the company back to Wii like profits. Many thought that was just foolish talk and him spouting off nonsense, but now we are starting to see a little bit of what they knew was coming...
Kimishima has been stating for a year now that the plans they have in place would see the company back to Wii like profits. Many thought that was just foolish talk and him spouting off nonsense, but now we are starting to see a little bit of what they knew was coming...
OrbitalBeard
Member
Mobile is really only the perfect solution if Nintendo is no longer interested in making traditional video games. Until that day comes (maybe it will come eventually), mobile is going to be a part of their strategy (and likely a BIG part of it), but not the only focus.
This honestly terrifies me.
I don't want to live in a world where Nintendo gives up on hardware and traditional gaming and goes all in on mobile games with microtransactions and no proper button controls. But if they continue seeing this kind of success with mobile games and the NX flops, that's a real possibility.
It would kill a significant portion of my interest in video games if that happened.
I don't want to live in a world where Nintendo gives up on hardware and traditional gaming and goes all in on mobile games with microtransactions and no proper button controls. But if they continue seeing this kind of success with mobile games and the NX flops, that's a real possibility.
It would kill a significant portion of my interest in video games if that happened.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
They're not.
Even if they are though we're probably going to get the best mobile games ever.
Why is it that the die-hard Nintendo fans on GAF are so damn dismissive of this game? Nintendo and Pokemon have literally never been more relevant, this is like the release of Pokemon Red/Blue kind of huge.
Just because it isn't once again a traditional console game doesn't mean that millions and millions of people aren't having a goddamn blast with this game. A whole new generation of people is connecting with Nintendo and Pokemon again.
And whether you personally like mobile gaming or not is irrelevant to what's happening here. It's obvious that this is a market that's extremely, extremely lucrative for Nintendo to be in so that's what they will keep doing in the future. This is absolutely one of the best products they have released in years and years.
Just because it isn't once again a traditional console game doesn't mean that millions and millions of people aren't having a goddamn blast with this game. A whole new generation of people is connecting with Nintendo and Pokemon again.
And whether you personally like mobile gaming or not is irrelevant to what's happening here. It's obvious that this is a market that's extremely, extremely lucrative for Nintendo to be in so that's what they will keep doing in the future. This is absolutely one of the best products they have released in years and years.
WaterAstro
Member
So before these investors realize they invested in the wrong thing, NX announcement totally bombs and those investors get completely screwed since Nintendo barely has anything to do with Pokemon Go.
Hahaha.
(Nintendo's stock rose to exactly the same level as now a year ago, when they announced they'd release mobile software. It subsequently lost 33% of its value.)
OrbitalBeard
Member
You know, except for the part where the concept of Pokemon GO was partially conceived by Satoru Iwata.
Lol, you seem salty.
From the game's announcement event where even miyamoto was present and talking about the project:
"To tell you the truth, I have been working on this project for about two years along with Nintendo's Mr. Iwata, and I really hoped we could make the announcement together. That desire is part of why I decided to hold this conference today."
The Pokémon Company will act as a partner with Niantic, Inc. to move forward with the creation of Pokémon GO.
Not just that, but one more companyNintendohas also joined us as a partner on this project.
So today, I would like to talk about this project that Niantic, Inc., Nintendo, and The Pokémon Company are working on."
Can we please put that Nintendo has nothing to do with it nonsense to rest please? If you haven't followed the development of the game please abstain from posting about it.
Doesn't really mean as much as people like to think it does, Pokemon Go will live and die based on its' long term viability and once this initial surge of interest dries up...
We'll have to wait and see on that anyway, I'm hopeful for their transition towards ending their hardware presence. Or at least shifting their sole focus off of it (which I think is more likely). The stock will take a dive again once the NX is launched, which is typical of product launches.
We'll have to wait and see on that anyway, I'm hopeful for their transition towards ending their hardware presence. Or at least shifting their sole focus off of it (which I think is more likely). The stock will take a dive again once the NX is launched, which is typical of product launches.
Tbh I'm seeing this game being talked about from people who haven't played since 2000, people in the hip-hop community who aren't known for this, just seeing it everywhere it's insanely huge and it's people of all ages.
People are dismissive but to doubt it is completely is shaky to me. I mean you literally see how big this thing is. You can physically see it. That. Is. Insane.
It will be more feature rich.
The game is currently still at version 0.2, so it's guaranteed that there's a lot to come in the future
WaterAstro
Member
And do you know how much money Nintendo is making off this?
Without being the publisher OR developer, they probably only make some money off copyright licensing, and that's my point.
You invest in a company when it's going to make money. Nintendo isn't making as much money as all these investors think they are. This is not about who made what, it's about who is making the money worth investing in.
And to correct you, Nintendo, The Pokemon Company, and Google all threw money at Niantic, and that was as far as their partnership went.
At this stage they are well underway if not already assured to get an insane return on investment and tremendous exposure in be hours of bring available. This thing is already a huge win LESS THAN A WEEK FROM RELEASE IN JUST 3 MARKETS.
Why done people are so vent on palaying it down i dont know. It's like people having fun with things they don't like makes them rage or something.
Ummm. They own 1/3 of the pokemon company dude. Just let it go. Guess we will see when they announce earnings. Also, i love how you think you know better than investors, yet you seemed blissfully unaware of their involvement in the project. Lol.
And to correct you: Nintendo owns part of the pokemon ip. Like, what are you even talking about?
OrbitalBeard
Member
Nintendo owns a large stake in the Pokemon Company. I really don't think you know what you're talking about, like, at all.
Hopefully it means Nintendo will make the NX a compelling console to own, in which case they will be able to tie things in well and have various successful products push one another. The problem is the Wii U sold exactly as many units as it deserves to sell.
GlamFM
Banned
Blasphemy, Nintendo couldn't possibly catch lightning in a bottle more than once, we've been told that over and over again! [/sarcasm]
But in all seriousness, don't use that phrase too liberally, it brings all sorts of connotations with it.
With some slight corrections I made, this I can agree with. I personally find that it's likely not enough to keep me engaged long-term, if only because my schedule doesn't permit me to wander around my city to maximize my enjoyment of it like it seems to want me to, but people do enjoy it and it does bring brand awareness. We just have to hope that Nintendo will be able to maximize the potential of that.
That being said...
This is a terribly subjective statement, unless you meant "most successful" in lieu of "best". Which I don't think is what you meant. In which case, not to be the bearer of bad news, but your opinion on the subject is not a universal truth to all involved. That's unfortunate, but it's what it is.
Congrats to Nintendo. The Pokemon games have always been huge moneymakers for Nintendo and this looks like it's taking it to a whole new level.
If it's still going strong in the coming months, it'd also be a great platform to advertise Sun and Moon. If even a sliver of a fraction of GO users take an interest in the mainline games, that'd be great.
But of course it's also fine to just enjoy GO. I haven't tried it yet, despite being a massive Pokemon fan, but I appreciate how it's making so many people happy.
If it's still going strong in the coming months, it'd also be a great platform to advertise Sun and Moon. If even a sliver of a fraction of GO users take an interest in the mainline games, that'd be great.
But of course it's also fine to just enjoy GO. I haven't tried it yet, despite being a massive Pokemon fan, but I appreciate how it's making so many people happy.
In the end mobile is the market where Nintendo has the potential to be the most successful. Because that's where a lot of their audience is. That doesn't mean that they can't be relatively successful in the traditional gaming market, but most probably mobile will become the main pillar if they are serious about it.
You once again display the fact that you're not really getting what makes this game popular. It's not for gamers. It's for everyone.
They will ensuredly improve upon the game and add more features. But the depth you seek it likely will never, ever provide. And that's a good thing. There's 3DS games out there for you if you want in-depth theorycrafting and intricate mechanics.
How is any of what I said an indication that I don't "get" what makes it popular, exactly?
KnightimeX_Legacy
Banned
NintenDOOMED!!!!
wait...
I mean....
This is AWESOME~!
wait...
I mean....
This is AWESOME~!
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
at 11:30 pm i drove to a parking lot next to some sort of dilapidated building. in that parking lot were, by my estimate, around 30 people playing pokemon go. while we stopped there (to play pokemon go) for about 20 minutes, another 10 or 15 people trickled in. i pulled out of the parking lot and saw 3 cars across the street and a handful of people on the other side of the run-down building.
i get that it's not for everyone, but there's a bizarre energy about being able to walk or drive anywhere and know there are other people, strangers, doing what you're doing. even in the middle of the night. even across hell's half acre. i'm sure it's a great way to make friends too.
i've seen a lot of mobile hits where everyone is talking about a game--like flappy bird, say--but never one where everywhere i go i see people absolutely, definitively playing the game. it's crazy.
i get that it's not for everyone, but there's a bizarre energy about being able to walk or drive anywhere and know there are other people, strangers, doing what you're doing. even in the middle of the night. even across hell's half acre. i'm sure it's a great way to make friends too.
i've seen a lot of mobile hits where everyone is talking about a game--like flappy bird, say--but never one where everywhere i go i see people absolutely, definitively playing the game. it's crazy.
i dont understand why people can nintendo have a win for a change.
they are not involved on pokemon go tho!
this has nothing to do with nintendo!
SEEE SEEE MOBILE WAS THE ANSWER ALL ALONG
it will be dead on a month!
i dont know why, the app sucks
miitomo tho
it doesnt matter if you were right or wrong about things, the only thing that matters its what nintendo do and if they survive in the end.
anyways, congrats to Nintendo, The Pokemon Company and Niantic it is a great little app, even in my small town on mexico there are a LOT, and i mean a LOT playing it (it hasnt even launched here yet)
they are not involved on pokemon go tho!
this has nothing to do with nintendo!
SEEE SEEE MOBILE WAS THE ANSWER ALL ALONG
it will be dead on a month!
i dont know why, the app sucks
miitomo tho
it doesnt matter if you were right or wrong about things, the only thing that matters its what nintendo do and if they survive in the end.
anyways, congrats to Nintendo, The Pokemon Company and Niantic it is a great little app, even in my small town on mexico there are a LOT, and i mean a LOT playing it (it hasnt even launched here yet)
Milly Osworth
Member
If Pokemon Go makes Pokemon spread to new young players, then Nintendo should be VERY happy.
TheMagician
Member
It remains as one of the biggest franchises in gaming.
Dreamwriter
Member
For those discussing if Nintendo is actually making any money off of this, here's a good summary thread about the Pokemon franchise ownership from last year:
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=155571604
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?p=155571604
You keep hammering on the idea that it doesn't have enough depth, that it will turn-off diehard fans of the series. Like you. That's not a problem with the game itself.
It also refers to some earlier statements you made about Nintendo having to absolutely flood the game with new depth and features right this second or they are fucking up. It's simply not true. You're looking at this from the limited perspective of a hardcore gamer.
Basically, the diehard Pokemon RPG fans can go kick rocks because this simple and easy to pick up game is turning into a bigger phenomenon than those games. And it's doing so almost overnight. It's amazing because it's so pick-up-and-play.
They will ensuredly add more features to the game but the game in it's core is never created to scratch the same itch as the 3DS RPG's do. It's completely different and people are loving it so much that it's putting Nintendo and Pokemon back on the fucking map. If that's not a good product then I don't know what is.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Nintendo succeeded what Sony has been failing to do for the last few years; cracking the mobile market.
PS Mobile, PS Experia, remote play etc.
I made it clear that it was my personal opinion and the personal opinion of certain Pokemon fans. That doesn't mean I don't understand why it's popular. I'm quite aware of why. Questioning whether it will be able to stay this popular is a highly relevant and not controversial question that you seem to want to make it out to be some condemnation or dismissal of its reasons for popularity that it's not.
You can get down off that cross now, stop putting words in my mouth and stop dismissing franchise fans as some irrelevance to the discussion that should be dismissed from the conversation and any consideration just because they don't agree with you wholeheartedly.
So we can make a new gif with its printing money?? I'm kinda glad Nintendo found a new outlet to sell their games, by diversifying and not necessarily cannibalizing console sales, they could pretty much corner the app market. I would hope that Nintendo invest the money they're going to get from Pokemon Go Freemium potential and maybe take a stab at buying more gaming houses, Capcom and Konami need new blood and creative ideas.
but since is nintendo, this is just a fad! it will only last one month! yadda yadda