Trump (and Pence) 60 Minutes Interview

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Haven't read all pages, but do we have Trump supporters actually defending that shit? I'm not even american, and reading that transcript, all I was thinking was "What the fuck? This is someone who could be president?"
 
GavinGT said:
Mike Pence posted this image to Twitter the other day. For some reason his daughter doesn't have a reflection?:

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https://twitter.com/mike_pence/status/754408867912622080/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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LOL WTF!
 
SMG said:
"Donald Trump: I am going to have very few troops on the ground. We're going to have unbelievable intelligence, which we need; which, right now, we don't have. We don't have the people over there. We are going to use--"


This proves he can't switch off his bullshit hyperbole.
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He has a handful of key words and phrases he likes to use and he sticks to them like glue, regardless of topic. Unbelievable, excellent, "you won't believe", great, best.
 
I don't defend Trump nor am I a racist. But it's quite a statement to make about a presidential candidate. I wonder where it comes from? I would like to see a quote from Trump where clearly it shows he is a racist. You say he is, ok show me.

A race is like you're black, white or yellow (?). That's what race is. Mexicans are the same race as Americans imo.
 
shaki123 said:
A racist has something against a race. Mexican people are no race. I am still gladly awaiting this quote.
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Probably the most extreme position that this election has pushed me to is seriously considering the merits of a voting liscense test of some kind.

I don't know how it would work to be sufficiently unbiased and fair, but these last few months have been a strong argument for there to be some kind of check for competency to vote.
 
shaki123 said:
I don't defend Trump nor am I a racist. But it's quite a statement to make about a presidential candidate. I wonder where it comes from? I would like to see a quote from Trump where clearly it shows he is a racist. You say he is, ok show me.
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You're not fooling anyone.
 
AndyD said:
He has a handful of key words and phrases he likes to use and he sticks to them like glue, regardless of topic. Unbelievable, excellent, "you won't believe", great, best.
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There is only one type of intelligence you normally do not want. Unbelievable intelligence.
 
We may actually avoid the worst possible timeline if Trump keeps this up.

It's like Marty took back the Sports Almanac and ran Biff's head over with the DeLorean on his way back to 1985.

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Going from this:

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To this:

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shaki123 said:
I don't defend Trump nor am I a racist. But it's quite a statement to make about a presidential candidate. I wonder where it comes from? I would like to see a quote from Trump where clearly it shows he is a racist. You say he is, ok show me.

A race is like your black, white or yellow (?). That's what race is. Mexicans are the same race as Americans imo.
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I mean, you just argued that his comments about Mexicans don't matter because 'Mexican isn't a race'.

Do you prefer Latinos, then? Does that suddenly make the statement more true?
 
shaki123 said:
I don't defend Trump nor am I a racist. But it's quite a statement to make about a presidential candidate. I wonder where it comes from? I would like to see a quote from Trump where clearly it shows he is a racist. You say he is, ok show me.

A race is like you're black, white or yellow (?). That's what race is. Mexicans are the same race as Americans imo.
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LOL, "as Americans". Joke poster confirmed.
 
shaki123 said:
I don't defend Trump nor am I a racist. But it's quite a statement to make about a presidential candidate. I wonder where it comes from? I would like to see a quote from Trump where clearly it shows he is a racist. You say he is, ok show me.
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This is just sad now... Maybe there are some guides on the internet that can help you to get better at baiting? Don't worry, I have heard these things are mostly effort and not talent/book smarts.
 
shaki123 said:
I don't defend Trump nor am I a racist. But it's quite a statement to make about a presidential candidate. I wonder where it comes from? I would like to see a quote from Trump where clearly it shows he is a racist. You say he is, ok show me.

A race is like you're black, white or yellow (?). That's what race is. Mexicans are the same race as Americans imo.
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Bruuuhhh
 
shaki123 said:
I don't defend Trump nor am I a racist.....
A race is like you're black, white or yellow (?). That's what race is. Mexicans are the same race as Americans imo.
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You know what fam? I got time today:


shaki123 said:
80% are bearded men. Fact.
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http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=179338867

shaki123 said:
When I open my door it's like I am on vacation in Syria. No thanks brother.

This is my country. Our country. Our Europe. Why is our voice not heard? What in the actual fuck is wrong here in Europe for fuck sake.
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http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=179340871

shaki123 said:
My girlfriend is black so if I were you I would take back your "comment" really quickly
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http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=179341798



But definitely not racist.. Nope, no way sir
 
shaki123 said:
A race is like you're black, white or yellow (?). That's what race is. Mexicans are the same race as Americans imo.
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Okay, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to refer to Asians as Yellow People anymore, but that aside

"Same race as Americans"?

Americans?

So caucasians, african-americans, asians, hispanics, middle-eastern people and everyone else that is in the great melting pot are all the same race?
 
shaki123 said:
I don't defend Trump nor am I a racist. But it's quite a statement to make about a presidential candidate. I wonder where it comes from? I would like to see a quote from Trump where clearly it shows he is a racist. You say he is, ok show me.

A race is like you're black, white or yellow (?). That's what race is. Mexicans are the same race as Americans imo.
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ugh, yeah we know that Mexican is a nationality, not a race

but Trump is racist towards Mexicans the same way Protestants were racist towards Catholics when opposing JFK, the same way many Anglo-Protestant Americans were racist toward the Irish in the late 19th Century

Mexicans are today's Irish when it come to race baiting, scapegoating an entire people. Brits are doing it doing towards Poles. Polish people are white but the way the UKIP supporters slander Polish people is done in a racist fashion, even if they are white too.

are Mexicans one race? Obviously not, demographically varied. But that's not the point

Trump is being hateful towards Mexicans and Latinos in a Racist way and race baiting.

shaki, you are being obstinate on the definition of race as a skin color to dismiss the charge on Trump.
 
shaki123 said:
I don't defend Trump nor am I a racist. But it's quite a statement to make about a presidential candidate. I wonder where it comes from? I would like to see a quote from Trump where clearly it shows he is a racist. You say he is, ok show me.
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can you please re-read your response to me and try to recall if you were awake while typing it.

I don't know why I'm wasting breath, but here you go...

Misogynistic:

“Ariana Huffington is unattractive, both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man – he made a good decision.”

“You know, it really doesn’t matter what the media write as long as you’ve got a young, and beautiful, piece of ass.”

“If I were running ‘The View’, I’d fire Rosie O’Donnell. I mean, I’d look at her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I’d say ‘Rosie, you’re fired.’”

“When a man leaves a woman, especially when it was perceived that he has left for a piece of ass—a good one!— there are 50 percent of the population who will love the woman who was left.”
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Racist:

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bring crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.”

“Our great African-American President hasn’t exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore.”

“A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market…if I was starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I really do believe they have the actual advantage today. “

“I have black guys counting my money. … I hate it. The only guys I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes all day. “‘Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that.” (1)

“Who the f knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?”
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Of course there's all the racist stuff that isn't easily contained in a single quote. Or the whole dog-whistle stuff about Obama, his birth certificate and Kenya. Or how the Justice Department sued his company twice for not hiring black people.

Fucking Creep:

“I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”
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Anything else bro?
 
gutter_trash said:
ugh, yeah we know that Mexican is a nationality, not a race

but Trump is racist towards Mexicans the same way Protestants were racist towards Catholics when opposing JFK, the same way many Anglo-Protestant Americans were racist toward the Irish in the late 19th Century

Mexicans are today's Irish when it come to race baiting, scapegoating an entire people. Brits are doing it doing towards Poles. Polish people are white but the way the UPIK Brits slander Polish people is done in a racist fashion, even if they are white too.

are Mexicans one race? Obviously not, demographically varied. But that's not the point

Trump is being hateful towards Mexicans and Latinos in a Racist way and race baiting.

shaki, you are being obstinate on the definition of race as a skin color to dismiss the charge on Trump.
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This makes sense to me. I see racism as a hatred towarda a race, not a nationality or religion or whatever. I was not joke posting.
 
Haha, at least it kind of exposes the differences in xenophobic discourse we collectively tolerate in euro threads while that wouldn't fly in US threads.

We euros are less racist than you dirty American peasants because we're never called out on it.
 
shaki123 said:
Saying there are a lot of refugees makes me racist? Look up the word brother. And yes my gf is black. What a crazy racist I am. Please. I am only asking to see 1 racist quote from Trump. Where is it?
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How about that time where he advocated to bring back the death penalty to kill 5 innocent black people?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/12/donald-trump-death-penalty/420069/

He also put this ad out

Mayor [Ed] Koch has stated that hate and rancor should be removed from our hearts. I do not think so. I want to hate these muggers and murderers. They should be forced to suffer and, when they kill, should be executed for their crimes. They must serve as examples so that others will think long and hard before committing a crime or an act of violence. Yes, Mayor Koch, I want to hate these murderers and I always will. I am not looking to psychoanalyze them or understand them, I am looking to punish them. If the punishment is strong, the attacks on innocent people will stop. I recently watched a newscast trying to explain “the anger in these young men.” I no longer want to understand their anger. I want them to understand our anger. I want them to be afraid.

How can our great society tolerate the continued brutalization of its citizens by crazed misfits? Criminals must be told that their CIVIL LIBERTIES END WHEN AN ATTACK ON OUR SAFETY BEGINS!
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shaki123 said:
Saying there are a lot of refugees makes me racist? Look up the word brother. And yes my gf is black. What a crazy racist I am. Please. I am only asking to see 1 racist quote from Trump. Where is it?
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You are as transparent as a fucking glass house.
 
shaki123 said:
I don't defend Trump nor am I a racist. But it's quite a statement to make about a presidential candidate. I wonder where it comes from? I would like to see a quote from Trump where clearly it shows he is a racist. You say he is, ok show me.

A race is like you're black, white or yellow (?). That's what race is. Mexicans are the same race as Americans imo.
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I'm just gonna assume you're trolling and move on with my day. Because if you're not, that's just sad.
 
shaki123 said:
I don't defend Trump nor am I a racist. But it's quite a statement to make about a presidential candidate. I wonder where it comes from? I would like to see a quote from Trump where clearly it shows he is a racist. You say he is, ok show me.

A race is like you're black, white or yellow (?). That's what race is. Mexicans are the same race as Americans imo.
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hmm, using "yellow" when it comes to race.

and using a kappa avatar, too.

1/10, please learn to at least be subtle when trolling.
 
Not to continue with the piling-on, but the defense that "I can't be racist because I'm currently boning black people" isn't really a defense.

I mean, Thomas Jefferson had a black "girlfriend." So did Strom fucking Thurmond. So maybe find another way to prove your hands are clean?

Like, maybe don't post so many things that sound kinda sorta racist (or at least "racism adjacent").
 
Sorry guys but, I have now seen some of his quotes and they are on the edge for sure! I do however think you Americans are a little bit too much "on the edge" when it comes to this subject. I see racism as a hatred towards a race and I only asked for 1 example where he is doing this.

The fact that my avatar is Mr. Kappa, doesn't mean I am.
 
Veelk said:
Okay, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to refer to Asians as Yellow People anymore, but that aside

"Same race as Americans"?

Americans?

So caucasians, african-americans, asians, hispanics, middle-eastern people and everyone else that is in the great melting pot are all the same race?
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Haven't you heard? The only americans are the white ones. The rest are just wannabe. /s
 
shaki123 said:
Sorry guys but, I have now seen some of his quotes and they are on the edge for sure! I do however think you Americans are a little bit too much "on the edge" when it comes to this subject. I see racism as a hatred towards a race and I only asked for 1 example where he is doing this.

The fact that my avatar is Mr. Kappa, doesn't mean I am.
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Dude, you said "yellow" is a race. Just sit down.

Ain't nobody buying what you're selling.
 
shaki123 said:
Sorry guys but, I have now seen some of his quotes and they are on the edge for sure! I do however think you Americans are a little bit too much "on the edge" when it comes to this subject. I see racism as a hatred towards a race and I only asked for 1 example where he is doing this.

The fact that my avatar is Mr. Kappa, doesn't mean I am.
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“I have black guys counting my money. … I hate it. The only guys I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes all day. “‘Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that.”

So, to be sure, to believe this is transparent racism is just 'being sensitive'?
 
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