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[Jezbollah]

If only the leaks was for the RNC. Those would have been golden.

Who's to say they don't have leaks for the Republican side?

What they release is what they want to release. And doing a basic search of Gaf OT using "wikileaks" in the thread title shows a pattern to who out of the two presidential candidates they have released leaks for..

 

[LlamaJohnson]

Two people suggested it in an internal email and then not doing it is now a plot.

I don't think it's that easy. I think most people think that the Democratic party is supposed to be the party where your religious background shouldn't matter. When people read this, they realize that it's all horse shit, and people will do whatever they can to win when it comes to politics. It kind of puts a cloud over all of the "Yay, Diversity!" ideas that they will be talking about next week.

 

[xxracerxx]

I'm wound up because the overwhelmingly majority of people are totally brushing this off as a non-issue, when if the same exact thing were to happen involving the RNC there'd be 20 plus page thread burning them at the stake.

This thread is less than an hour old and there are a shitload of emails.

 

[Geg]

I'm wound up because the overwhelmingly majority of people are totally brushing this off as a non-issue, when if the same exact thing were to happen involving the RNC there'd be 20 plus page thread burning them at the stake.

Well I mean Republicans already attack their opponents on the basis or religion, not much to reveal there

 

[Maxim726X]

Erm, no one justified it.
He's saying it's what office people do.

No.

Not really. I've never worked in an office where those kinds of emails are sent around to each other.

It's like when the Republicans tried to justify the disgusting, racist emails that were sent around in the Ferguson PD... 'Well, all offices do this!'.

Nope. They don't.

 

[Officerrob]

Seriously, is this like their first election?

Just imagine the internal e-mails during Reverend Wright

 

[B-Dubs]

Who's to say they don't have leaks for the Republican side?

What they release is what they want to release. And doing a basic search of Gaf OT using "wikileaks" in the thread title shows a pattern to who out of the two presidential candidates they have released leaks for..

Considering Russia's response to Trump doing well it's not that hard to figure out...

 

[High Fry Frow]

I don't think it's that easy. I think most people think that the Democratic party is supposed to be the party where your religious background shouldn't matter. When people read this, they realize that it's all horse shit, and people will do whatever they can to win when it comes to politics. It kind of puts a cloud over all of the "Yay, Diversity!" ideas that they will be talking about next week.

Exactly.

 

[jack_package_200]

I'm wound up because the overwhelmingly majority of people are totally brushing this off as a non-issue, when if the same exact thing were to happen involving the RNC there'd be 20 plus page thread burning them at the stake.

It might shock you, but there are much worse things going on in that party than a few nasty emails.

They have a racist white nationalist as their nominee for fuck's sake.

None of us are excusing the emails. There are much worse things.

 

[kirblar]

Seriously, is this like their first election?

People 18->26 weren't able to vote for '08 Obama. Many have never been exposed to a primary outside of their elementary school years.

 

[Jezbollah]

Considering Russia's response to Trump doing well it's not that hard to figure out...

Indeed.

 

[Maxim726X]

I don't think it's that easy. I think most people think that the Democratic party is supposed to be the party where your religious background shouldn't matter. When people read this, they realize that it's all horse shit, and people will do whatever they can to win when it comes to politics. It kind of puts a cloud over all of the "Yay, Diversity!" ideas that they will be talking about next week.

I don't give a shit about what people think about other religions/races/species/countries/sports teams/etc...

I care about what policies they will enact. The rest is noise, it is that easy.

 

[Malvolio]

It might shock you, but there are much worse things going on in that party than a few nasty emails.

They have a racist white nationalist as their nominee for fuck's sake.

None of us are excusing the emails. There are much worse things.

This might as well be the campaign slogan.

 

[King Tubby]

Not going to hold my breath for any RNC leaks. These hacks were perpetrated by organizations believed to have ties to the Russian government, and Trump and Putin have been very buddy buddy so far this campaign.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

Who's to say they don't have leaks for the Republican side?

What they release is what they want to release. And doing a basic search of Gaf OT using "wikileaks" in the thread title shows a pattern to who out of the two presidential candidates they have released leaks for..

to be fair, they could publish all the dirt they wanted on trump. his supporters would reference 4d chess and pretend nothing happened.

 

[Toxi]

It's amazing how in thousands of emails containing sensitive personal information like SSNs, the most damning thing found so far was one guy saying "We should do something shitty" to which another replied "Nah."

Great job wiki leaks.

 

[jack_package_200]

Not going to hold my breath for any RNC leaks. These hacks were perpetrated by organizations believed to have ties to the Russian government, and Trump and Putin have been very buddy buddy so far this campaign.

Yep.

The intent of releasing these emails is abundantly clear,

It's amazing how in thousands of emails containing sensitive personal information like SSNs, the most damning thing found was one guy saying "We should do something shitty" to which another replied "Nah."

Thats a pretty good takeaway

 

[Suikoguy]

No.

Not really. I've never worked in an office where those kinds of emails are sent around to each other.

It's like when the Republicans tried to justify the disgusting, racist emails that were sent around in the Ferguson PD... 'Well, all offices do this!'.

Nope. They don't.

While I don't think it was your intention, based on the quote I saw from the email, this was entirely written in a political framing. Additionally, it would not have been off limits in the GE either.

Trying to compare it to the Ferguson PD email stuff is odd.

Edit: Wait, am I mixing up what we are referring too?

Not going to hold my breath for any RNC leaks. These hacks were perpetrated by organizations believed to have ties to the Russian government, and Trump and Putin have been very buddy buddy so far this campaign.

Yep, there were two articles posted earlier in this thread about that.

 

[Palette Swap]

Like, I'm so fucking ashamed of some of you. The mental gymnastics that some of you must have to do...

It doesn't matter that this strategy was never put into effect. This is one of the most prominent officials at the DNC. Even just putting forth the idea of targeting somebody's religion and demonizing them for being Jewish/Athiest is fucking shameful. That shouldn't even be spoken/written, let alone by somebody of power and prominence.

To be fair, going by the quote in that tweet, and I think this was all a disgusting idea made by awful people, they're not targeting him for being Jewish, they're saying they could somehow out him as an atheist because he'd avoided the issue of his own spirituality up to that point, saying he was of Jewish heritage. They're saying being an atheist would look worse to their religious base than being a Jew.

Again, as an atheist myself and someone who's always baffled by America's unhealthy obsession with religion, I find this disgusting.

Still, I wonder how it would look for any organization (a political party, a university or a corporation) if all its emails leaked. I have an intuition they would all look terrible, but I realize I'm bordering on hypothetical whataboutism. We'll never find out though, because Russia isn't interested in the others.

 

[eBay Huckster]

This might as well be the campaign slogan.

If you don't give a shit about public policy, yes, "this might as well be the campaign slogan"

 

[davepoobond]

That's right. Expose Sanders for the dirty atheist that he (allegedly) is. Nothing gets in the way of Queen Hillary.

Basically just proves that Hillary was using kid gloves after all since she didnt do that. GG

 

[Maxim726X]

While I don't think it was your intention, based on the quote I saw from the email, this was entirely written in a political framing. Additionally, it would not have been off limits in the GE either.

Trying to compare it to the Ferguson PD email stuff is odd.

Not equating the content of the emails, just the general idea that these kinds of things are normally discussed in an office setting... As if that justifies it.

 

[kirblar]

Basically just proves that Hillary was using kid gloves after all since she didnt do that. GG

They mention they're under orders from on high (Mook/Clinton, presumably) to not go after that stuff.

 

[jack_package_200]

Basically just proves that Hillary was using kid gloves after all since she didnt do that. GG

Also this. Its clear that they had plenty of ammo they could have gone with but chose not use.

 

[abstract alien]

I'm so confused and ignorant when it comes to this, and admittedly, I don't keep up with it all. Did Hillary do something illegal or not with this whole email thing?

 

[xxracerxx]

I'm so confused and ignorant when it comes to this, and admittedly, I don't keep up with it all. Did Hillary do something illegal or not with this whole email thing?

Different email thing.

 

[Suikoguy]

Also this. Its clear that they had plenty of ammo they could have gone with but chose not use.

The election was not really all that close after South Carolina, so it's logical. Why throw shit to build up the margin?

From a purely rational perspective, there is not enough to gain and more to lose.

Different email thing.

Yes, this is about likely Russian State Sponsored Hackers who released info to Wikileaks who did not redacting of personal information.

 

[Kinyou]

Basically just proves that Hillary was using kid gloves after all since she didnt do that. GG

Hard to say if that was done out of kindness or because they knew that it would actually be a terrible look for them.

 

[Risette]

I'm so confused and ignorant when it comes to this, and admittedly, I don't keep up with it all. Did Hillary do something illegal or not with this whole email thing?

These are different emails. Hacked (courtesy of Putin's goons) from the Democratic Party; not related to Hillary's email scandal.

 

[Somnid]

So what dirt are you guys expecting they dig up on the RNC that isn't officially part of the platform?

 

[LlamaJohnson]

Just saw this email on my twitter page. Is this offensive?

 

[Velcro Fly]

I'm so confused and ignorant when it comes to this, and admittedly, I don't keep up with it all. Did Hillary do something illegal or not with this whole email thing?

i think the basic gist is some members of the DNC talked about it but the general idea was for them to just not do shit like this, presumably because Hillary or someone else high up did not want them to.

 

[Maxim726X]

Hard to say if that was done out of kindness or because they knew that it would actually be a terrible look for them.

Nothing is done out of the will to be kind in American politics.

I'm sure it was a measured decision, and the cons outweighted the pros.

 

[MIMIC]

The Washington Post has updated the story to include the bit about party officials wanting use Sanders's faith against him.

 

[O Canada Our Home and Native Land]

Because it would've been idiotic to go after Bernie about religion during the democratic primary. Yeah, Hills was using kid gloves on Bernie like trying to pathetically tie him to Sandy Hook.

 

[JackDT]

So everyone who uses the web form also had their IP leaked, example:

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/708

Real classy.

 

[Ekai]

Hard to say if that was done out of kindness or because they knew that it would actually be a terrible look for them.

That was my initial thought.

 

[Volimar]

Wow, the outrage. I never!



I doubt that Sanders is an atheist though. He doesn't seem to mind the socialist label, so I can't imagine he'd be too upset at being called atheist. If anything it would probably have done more to energize his youthful base.

 

[kirblar]

Just saw this email on my twitter page. Is this offensive?

Kathy Griffin has a huge number of gay fans.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

Just saw this email on my twitter page. Is this offensive?

how is labeling any minority as a "good minority" not - even as a joke? :V

edit: okay, i guess not, my b.

 

[whyamihere]

Just saw this email on my twitter page. Is this offensive?

Scott Comer is a gay, so... no.

how is labeling any minority as a "good minority" not - even as a joke? :V

I don't have enough eye rolls for this.

 

[xxracerxx]

Just saw this email on my twitter page. Is this offensive?

Is Comer himself gay?

Scott Comer is a gay, so... no.

And there you go.

No it is not offensive.

 

[MHWilliams]

Why publish this then? Just because you got some emails, doesn't mean it needs to be published. Surely this is a criminal offense?

Easy. Because it relates to email, you can tie to quite strongly to Clinton's email scandal. In reality, they're unrelated.

If you dislike Clinton, you simply go "Ah, if she did not run her own private server, none of this happens." Unrelated, but it's an easy tie. Rather smart actually.

EDIT: On the eve of the VP announcement too!

 

[jack_package_200]

The Washington Post has updated the story to include the bit about party officials wanting use Sanders's faith against him.

This is the worst scandal in DNC history. How will they ever recover from considering to use religion as ammo against an opposing candidate and chose not to.

Oh the horror!

 

[Suikoguy]

That basically sounds like a Poligaf conversation, lol.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

Easy. Because it relates to email, you can tie to quite strongly to Clinton's email scandal. In reality, they're unrelated.

If you dislike Clinton, you simply go "Ah, if she did not run her own private server, none of this happens." Unrelated, but it's an easy tie. Rather smart actually.

that's true. anyone not following the election rather seriously would be able to easily confuse this leak and the hrc emails

 

[King Tubby]

This is the worst scandal in DNC history. How will they ever recover from considering to use religion as ammo against an opposing candidate and chose not to.

Oh the horror!

You are talking like the DNC is an extension of the Clinton campaign. You don't see how this is inappropriate?

 

[jack_package_200]

You are talking like the DNC is an extension of the Clinton campaign. You don't see how this is inappropriate?

My mistake.

I still feel like Mimic is making a huge deal out of very little

 

[MIMIC]

This is the worst scandal in DNC history. How will they ever recover from considering to use religion as ammo against an opposing candidate and chose not to.

Oh the horror!

Ummmm.....

 

[msdstc]

Ummmm.....

That's basically what it was.