I'm not against the idea or anything, but why the hell would they remake MGS3? I know it's well regarded and everything, but that's just sort of a weird one to randomly remake. Why not the first one? Or go back even further and remake/reboot the original games? I mean, if it's true, I would still be about it, but it just seems weird.
The only thing I really know is that new content is coming. I don't know if it is story or not. As far as MGS3 remake, just wait and see! The fact a remake is coming won't be the surprising bit
New content is coming for TPP? Maybe another map pack...
Regarding MGS3 Remake I wouldn't be surprised, considering Konami remade all cutscenes already.
Remaking the first 2 would be more costly since the script would have to be re-written and the games had no cutscenes so these have to be made and overall it would cost alot more to make than MGS3.
If you noticed, they didn't change anything in the MGS3 Pachinko cutscenes in terms of direction, camera angles and what not. They preserved everything which is how remakes should be done in the first place (looking at you TTS).
That being said, MGS3 remake is much cheaper to make than MG1 remake.
? There were plenty of cutscenes in MGS1 and MGS2, what are you saying? Did you forget the 40 minutes cutscene before the final fight with Solidus in MGS2?
I'm not against the idea or anything, but why the hell would they remake MGS3? I know it's well regarded and everything, but that's just sort of a weird one to randomly remake. Why not the first one? Or go back even further and remake/reboot the original games? I mean, if it's true, I would still be about it, but it just seems weird.
Remaking the first 2 would be more costly since the script would have to be re-written and the games had no cutscenes so these have to be made and overall it would cost alot more to make than MGS3.
If you noticed, they didn't change anything in the MGS3 Pachinko cutscenes in terms of direction, camera angles and what not. They preserved everything which is how remakes should be done in the first place (looking at you TTS).
That being said, MGS3 remake is much cheaper to make than MG1 remake.
Remaking the first 2 would be much harder since the script would have to be re-written and the games had no cutscenes so these have to be made and overall it would cost alot more to make than MGS3.
If you noticed, they didn't change anything in the MGS3 Pachinko cutscenes in terms of direction, camera angles and what not. They preserved everything which is how remakes should be done in the first place (looking at you TTS).
That being said, MGS3 remake is much cheaper to make than MG1 remake.
Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain being combined into one game is the obvious thing this would have.
Multiplayer DLC
What else would it really have? Maybe some behind the scenes stuff, but I can't think of anything else. Any hope of Chapter 3 is dead, but to humor the idea, because at the end of the day I do want it, if they did revive it I'd imagine it'd be day and date with the definitive edition, but also downloadable for everyone who bought the base version of TPP, honestly though it'd be a huge shock, and we'd probably have heard something about it by now, tease by a voice actor or something.
Well they had codec calls but they didn't have the cutscenes that MGS is known for. They have to be rewritten because the script won't fit a full fledged 3D Metal Gear (aka MGS). In other words, the script lacks what is needed to make cutscenes.
Well they had codec calls but they didn't have the cutscenes that MGS is known for. They have to be rewritten because the script won't fit a full fledged 3D Metal Gear (aka MGS). In other words, the script lacks what is needed to make cutscenes.
Umh, no. Yeah, there were codec dialogues, but the game was full of cutscenes. What do you mean with "they didn't have the cutscenes that MGS is knows for"?
Or are you confusing Metal Gear 1 and 2 with Metal Gear Solid 1 and 2?
Umh, no. Yeah, there were codec dialogues, but the game was full of cutscenes. What do you mean with "they didn't have the cutscenes that MGS is knows for"?
Or are you confusing Metal Gear 1 and 2 with Metal Gear Solid 1 and 2?
Assuming I didn't say anything. Given the 2 pachinko trailers that Konami released and the recent reddit post by the Konami employee, would you have any doubts that an MGS3 remake is coming exclusively on PS4?
Assuming I didn't say anything. Given the 2 pachinko trailers that Konami released and the recent reddit post by the Konami employee, would you have any doubts that an MGS3 remake is coming exclusively on PS4?
Would be nice if the GZ portion was more integrated with TPP and allowed you to use your accumulated equipment and Mother Base unit functions, but would not be surprised if they just throw in the original disc or make it selectable from the main menu.
Assuming I didn't say anything. Given the 2 pachinko trailers that Konami released and the recent reddit post by the Konami employee, would you have any doubts that an MGS3 remake is coming exclusively on PS4?
I'm not against the idea or anything, but why the hell would they remake MGS3? I know it's well regarded and everything, but that's just sort of a weird one to randomly remake. Why not the first one? Or go back even further and remake/reboot the original games? I mean, if it's true, I would still be about it, but it just seems weird.
Timeline wise it makes sense, it works as an intro to the Metal Gear series, and it's much easier to remake than MG and MG2. Also with MGSV and Peace Walker being recent, it carries on the Big Boss/ Naked Snake hype. With MG and MG2, Konami would have to figure a few things out, if it's worth remaking them, since a lot of effort would need to go into it, everything would need to be designed from the ground up. They'd have to figure out how much extra content needs to go into the games, MG and MG2 modernized would not be enough content for $60 games, $40 is even pushing it. Big thing is if they turn MG and MG2 remade into one game, or keep them as 2, separately remade/ separately priced games. Voice actor could also be a factor, people will be outraged if Solid Snake had a new voice actor, with Naked Snake it's a little different.
MGS3 is a masterpiece to me, and can never be topped, so to be honest I don't want a remake of it, MG and MG2 would be much more appealing, even though those games are amazing in their own right, they deserve a touch up more than any game in the series, every MGS game plays fine, even to this day MGS1 plays amazingly well, and hasn't really aged, but I can see the appeal to making a MGS3 Remake. MG and MG2 are games many didn't play, and a lot more could be done, especially expanding to the continuity things MGS3, MGS PW, and MGS TPP have added.
I don't know if a theoretical Chapter 3 would be enough to save the game for me, I still love the gameplay so no doubt I'll play it, but it would take a substantial amount of content to really change my opinion of the game as a whole.
It would probably take a new Africa/Afghanistan sized chunk of playable area for starters, hopefully with more military bases scattered across, as I think the level design was best when you were infiltrating large complicated military bases. It would also be nice that instead of just adding a "chapter 3" at the end of the soulless chapter 2 grind that it was integrated with the content barren chapter 2 somehow.
There's also the damn Battle Gear which was clearly stripped from the game for "balancing" reasons but they could have re purposed it since some work was clearly done on it. If the cut content is in this version, then there's going to be another boss battle with Sahelanthropus, having a Battle Gear is the only way I can think of that would make that fight not just a boring retread of the first fight.
Assuming I didn't say anything. Given the 2 pachinko trailers that Konami released and the recent reddit post by the Konami employee, would you have any doubts that an MGS3 remake is coming exclusively on PS4?
Yes, I would. You took that as the basis for your guess and, best scenario, you'll get banned again. Worst one, you'll keep getting excited at every tidbit of information and you'll keep pretending to have inside information.
Assuming I didn't say anything. Given the 2 pachinko trailers that Konami released and the recent reddit post by the Konami employee, would you have any doubts that an MGS3 remake is coming exclusively on PS4?
If MGS V was a masterpiece, everyone would be happy with this news, but because this game turned out to be the biggest dissapointment for the hardcore Metal Gear fans and storyline driven fans, now everyone is laughing with this news. Something which a great series like Metal Gear doesnt deserve.
No, no, no. People are laughing because there's hope being placed on a 2016 Konami to actually make a game for console players, and that there's prayers for unfinished content to be fully realized without Kojima.
I mean, I can't help myself either but to pray and pray and pray for Chapter 3 (maybe the problem all along was that Kojima was such a perfectionist that it slowed the thing down and that also once the legal troubles of the termination came into play the process slowed even further, so then once ties were severed and Konami saw the market interest, the process speeded up without him?) ... but wishes and dreams are worth about as as the fairydust they're made of.
New content is coming for TPP? Maybe another map pack...
Regarding MGS3 Remake I wouldn't be surprised, considering Konami remade all cutscenes already.
? There were plenty of cutscenes in MGS1 and MGS2, what are you saying? Did you forget the 40 minutes cutscene before the final fight with Solidus in MGS2?
I think he was referring too MG1 and MG2, the 2d MSX/NES games. These are the ones that most people have been wanting a remake of and was heavily rumored to be the next game made in the series after MGSV.
Where is this TPP new content rumor coming from? Would seriously be surprised if it was anything other than skins/maps for MGO.
A MGS3 remake makes sense. Easiest game to build using the MGSV systems, and allows the new team to get their feet wet before they go and push the series forward.
MGS1 and MGS2 remakes are where things get iffy. Since the MGSV gameplay style wouldn't fit with those
I'm not against the idea or anything, but why the hell would they remake MGS3? I know it's well regarded and everything, but that's just sort of a weird one to randomly remake. Why not the first one? Or go back even further and remake/reboot the original games? I mean, if it's true, I would still be about it, but it just seems weird.
Why the MGS3 remake would be PS4 exclusive, lol. MGSV sold pretty well on all platform, Konami would be dumb to release such a game on a single platform like they pretty much did in the past. Well, we'll see.
Maybe I wasn't clear, but I was referring to MGS1 and 2 there, not MG1 and 2. Clearly, the original two games would be a much different job, but not what I meant to that particular comment you quoted.
I think he was referring too MG1 and MG2, the 2d MSX/NES games. These are the ones that most people have been wanting a remake of and was heavily rumored to be the next game made in the series after MGSV.
Where is this TPP new content rumor coming from? Would seriously be surprised if it was anything other than skins/maps for MGO.
Heavily rumored from whom/where? I never saw any real information about that. Hell, I saw people saying they thought the last mission in MGSV was going to be a remake of MG1 or some other stupid shit that didn't make any sense.
Why the MGS3 remake would be PS4 exclusive, lol. MGSV sold pretty well on all platform, Konami would be dumb to release such a game on a single platform like they pretty much did in the past. Well, we'll see.
I don't know, because this would mean Konami should rework the game, at least partially, and I doubt they want to spend money on that. As I wrote, I'm not even sure both games will be included in a single bluray, this would mean create a new menu a la MGO in which you can boot GZ, MGSV or MGO. I still believe for the vanilla game+ a voucher to download GZ and DLCs.
With Metal Gear Rising Ultimate and Castlevania LOS Ultimate they did this, but on the other end, the suspicious thing here is the fact this is not MGSV Ultimate, but Definitive EX. Usually in gaming when you use EX, there's some kind of revision going on, so who knows.
Definitive EX would integrate Ground Zeroes into the main campaign of MGSV. Make it "Prologue Part One," and the actual prologue in the hospital "Prologue Part Two." Then divide Chapter One into three acts a simple reclassification, with new title cards, to create a stronger sense of pacing. Then rename Chapter Two, "Epilogue," and put the challenge missions in their own separate category, so that you can access the new story missions back to back. Finally, reinstate the missing episode, "Kingdom of the Lost Flies," finishing it up with a new director based on Kojima's original script.
Add some across-the-board enhancements optimized for current-gen consoles... Add quality-of-life features like the ability to skip helicopter travel and warp directly from LZ to LZ... And include all of the DLC for GZ, MGSV and MGO3... And you've got a great deal.
Definitive EX would integrate Ground Zeroes into the main campaign of MGSV. Make it "Prologue Part One," and the actual prologue in the hospital "Prologue Part Two." Then divide Chapter One into three acts a simple reclassification, with new title cards, to create a stronger sense of pacing. Then rename Chapter Two, "Epilogue," and put the challenge missions in their own separate category, so that you can access the new story missions back to back. Finally, reinstate the missing episode, "Kingdom of the Lost Flies," finishing it up with a new director based on Kojima's original script.
Add some across-the-board enhancements optimized for current-gen consoles... Add quality-of-life features like the ability to skip helicopter travel and warp directly from LZ to LZ... And include all of the DLC for GZ, MGSV and MGO3... And you've got a great deal.
Even if Konami does all the stuff you listed, MGSV would still miss a proper ending. I mean, it would be like doing a director's cut of Donnie Dark without the last 15 minutes of the movie.
Even if Konami does all the stuff you listed, MGSV would still miss a proper ending. I mean, it would be like doing a director's cut of Donnie Dark without the last 15 minutes of the movie.
I honestly don't know why people ask for a chapter 3, just because of that one episode that didn't make it to the game? Cause it feels really complete otherwise, you guys want a whole other chapter just to finish the Eli story line?
Also, chapter 2 is really the epilogue, real ending + some extra missions, as in peace walker. Kojima naming it chapter 2 confused people.
I'll politely disagree. In my opinion, MGSV has a loose structure but a fine ending. Ch. 1 is the main adventure, so to speak; Ch. 2 is effectively an epilogue showing the not-so-fulfilling life their revenge earned for them. And then the reveal at the end casts everything that happened in a new light, and makes you look at a certain character (
the real Big Boss, defying The Boss' principles by using soldiers as a means to an ends
) in a whole new way.
Making the changes I prescribed would simply tighten the structure in a way I feel would be more satisfying. As it stands, cramming the first 30 missions into "Chapter 1" feels top-heavy and unwieldy, so dividing them into three acts would help. Those three acts would be 1)
Boss' return to the battlefield, in Afghanistan
, 2)
uncovering the parasite plot in Africa
, and 3)
attempting to stop Skull Face
. Then, by renaming Ch. 2 "Epilogue," it brings your expectations in line with the amount of new story content actually delivered. Moving the challenge missions to a separate category makes them feel less like filler and more like the optional content they actually are. Along with resolving the loose thread re: Eli with the addition of "Kingdom of the Flies," it should feel much more complete overall.
I can totally sympathize with you wanting a more conventional ending, but I hope you understand where I'm coming from with this.
Even if Konami does all the stuff you listed, MGSV would still miss a proper ending. I mean, it would be like doing a director's cut of Donnie Dark without the last 15 minutes of the movie.
I'll politely disagree. In my opinion, MGSV has a loose structure but a fine ending. Ch. 1 is the main adventure, so to speak; Ch. 2 is effectively an epilogue showing the not-so-fulfilling life their revenge earned for them. And then the reveal at the end casts everything that happened in a new light, and makes you look at a certain character (
the real Big Boss, defying The Boss' principles by using soldiers as a means to an ends
) in a whole new way.
Making the changes I prescribed would simply tighten the structure in a way I feel would be more satisfying. As it stands, cramming the first 30 missions into "Chapter 1" feels top-heavy and unwieldy, so dividing them into three acts would help. Those three acts would be 1)
Boss' return to the battlefield, in Afghanistan
, 2)
uncovering the parasite plot in Africa
, and 3)
attempting to stop Skull Face
. Then, by renaming Ch. 2 "Epilogue," it brings your expectations in line with the amount of new story content actually delivered. Moving the challenge missions to a separate category makes them feel less like filler and more like the optional content they actually are. Along with resolving the loose thread re: Eli, with the addition of "Kingdom of the Flies," it should feel much more complete overall.
I can totally sympathize with you wanting a more conventional ending, though. I just hope you understand where I'm coming from with this.
I honestly don't know why people ask for a chapter 3, just because of that one episode that didn't make it to the game? Cause it feels really complete otherwise, you guys want a whole other chapter just to finish the Eli story line?
Also, chapter 2 is really the epilogue, real ending + some extra missions, as in peace walker. Kojima naming it chapter 2 confused people.
