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Overwatch gets Summer Games update (new mode in Weekly Brawl, new skins/etc)

This is near the equivalent of the HS team putting out adventure wings and saying you can't spend saved up in game gold for them. Little suspicious.
 
This is near the equivalent of the HS team putting out adventure wings and saying you can't spend saved up in game gold for them. Little suspicious.

Don't go giving them ideas like that, especially now with next adventure just around the corner.
 
This is near the equivalent of the HS team putting out adventure wings and saying you can't spend saved up in game gold for them. Little suspicious.

This is what it feels like to people who dropped cash on loot boxes to save up some credits

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This is near the equivalent of the HS team putting out adventure wings and saying you can't spend saved up in game gold for them. Little suspicious.

It's even worse, Overwatch isn't a free-to-play game, Hearthstone is.
 
This is what it feels like to people who dropped cash on loot boxes to save up some credits

People were spending money to save up credits... prior to knowing what they'd be able to buy with said credits... despite the fact they could have just waited to see? Mkay.
 
yeah, Summer skins aside, I want to know what my credits are good for now. Only the base skins? If it's just going to the events and skins that you can't buy, what's the point of the currency. That's not how it works Blizzard.

I'm sure they will be releasing skins that aren't time restricted to coincide with a certain event. We could assume that currency would be redemeable against these, whenever they appear.
 
To be fair, we could also be getting a new map and mode today that requires no additional purchase.

Is there any indication that the new map and mode would also be limited time things? I'd assume so just because it'd make no sense for Olympic themed stuff to last forever, but I just figured I'd ask.
 
Is there any indication that the new map and mode would also be limited time things? I'd assume so just because it'd make no sense for Olympic themed stuff to last forever, but I just figured I'd ask.

That's a good question... could be limited time for matchmaking and then forever available in custom games.
 
I'm not angry, more disappointed. And you'd rather there be no push-back on this? You'd rather let Blizzard make Overwatch's economy less consumer friendly and we just sit back and take it because these posts annoy you?

If Kaplan decides to pull back on some of this stuff because of the community's reaction you are welcome in advance. :)

Edit: Good post on Blizz forums about the virtual economy: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20747777123

Virtual economy? What? In a game with no buy/sell system?

Again your odds never increase. Ever. There is no speeding up of anything. You will never ever have an improved chance of getting an item no matter how many crates you unlock.

If you're really going to just hand-wave away the idea that gambling of any kind can exploit people than that's up to you but it's very very inaccurate. You seem to be saying that not everyone is an addict but that really doesn't mean anything, and it certainly doesn't make this a good system anyway.

I would ask you to consider at least that of the many options available to Blizzard here this is a terrible terrible one. There's no reason to defend it, they could simply add them in a way that isn't so clearly exploitative. They don't need to add straight up gambling, they are so many other ways the game can be supported.

Yeah, and I didn't say your odds increased. I said you're opening crates at a faster rate.

Look here, not everyone being an addict means not everyone is being exploited. Addicts need to take care of their craving, everyone else just really wants it. And caving to your desires doesn't mean you were exploited.

Oh man, straight to the apologist playbook. Yes, assert that posters who disagree with you are having some type of extreme emotional response. Pretty sure most people here are capable of shaking their heads at a poorly-designed promotion and capable of holding back their tears at the same time, somehow...

Toss off with the "aplogist" stuff. The words being used in this thread are pretty extreme. Like, "a new low in microtrasactions"? It is in no way that bad. Event items that drop randomly with money to get more drops is a decade old for video games. Hell, what about Valve not doing anything about CS:GO betting systems for ages? You can't both have a thread deeming it "a new low" and also not compare it to similar games. The anger here is stupid.
 
People were spending money to save up credits... prior to knowing what they'd be able to buy with said credits... despite the fact they could have just waited to see? Mkay.

Oh come on now. You're really going to reach this far to make Blizzard the good guy in all this?
 
Yeah, and I didn't say your odds increased. I said you're opening crates at a faster rate.

Look here, not everyone being an addict means not everyone is being exploited. Addicts need to take care of their craving, everyone else just really wants it. And caving to your desires doesn't mean you were exploited.

Surely it's reasonable to expect them to design a system in which no one is being exploited? Why should anyone be exploited at all? Again they are so many other options they could take. It doesn't have to be like this. There are so many other systems that could be used there's just no reason to defend this.
 
Can't believe some are defending this, or saying, lol it's just cosmetics.

Baffling.

I mean, it is "just" cosmetics. I'm not suddenly hating the game or anything.

However, their choice on how to unlock their special event skins sucks.
 
People were spending money to save up credits... prior to knowing what they'd be able to buy with said credits... despite the fact they could have just waited to see? Mkay.

If one's goal is to accumulate credits, it's better to purchase loot boxes when the chances of duplicates are higher. For example, if you don't care about Ana skins / sprays / etc (or even if you do but just want to prioritize receiving credits), now is a worse time to buy loot boxes than before the Ana patch because the chances of receiving duplicates and thus credits are worsened.

With the new standard of "No, you cannot use your silly credits on these special skins," then the whole dynamic is changed and one's desire to purchase any regular crates for stocking credits is diminished.
 
I'd be right there defending this if this stuff was obtainable with gold as well, but the way it is is really shitty. Making it crates only and for such a limited time is really pushing people into buying crates. This is something that would have made that microtransaction thread worth mentioning, not stupid voice clips that could be bought with gold as well.

isnt it just these three ugly ass lucio tracer and zarya skins???

No chance it's only going to be 3 skins.
 
The anger here is stupid.

-It's a beloved game that has been, so far, fairly friendly to its players/fans.
-People have been waiting for new skins for a bit, and when that wish is granted it's granted with some seriously lame caveats
-People (rightfully or wrongfully) expect a bit better from Blizzard
-Just because these tactics have been around a while doesn't excuse them
 
Oh come on now. You're really going to reach this far to make Blizzard the good guy in all this?

Well, it is a ridiculous thing to do regardless of Blizzard being a good guy/bad guy. Who would spend real money to maybe get gold coins that they might be able to use to get items that they might want in a future release. It makes no sense, especially since they could buy those boxes at any time.
 
So fatassgaf is offended because its sports related and gamblingadditgaf is offended cuz its more to spend money on. Did i miss anything?
 
They raise a good damn point. Why do that? Especially with people saying they've got everything they want already.

Because they expected better of Blizzard than to suddenly remove the ability to buy things with coins. Since you can buy coins through loot crates then they had no reason to think something like this would happen. I've seen a lot of people saying they're saving up coins for future skins.
 
If the skins are only those skins I don't see much of a problem. I also like how they are separating the items so they won't just clog up the regular loot boxes in the future. If I ended up getting a skin I'd probably use it for a bit but I don't see them being anything I'd use long term.

I'd like to see them do more like that though. Say Halloween and Christmas time. The idea of a santa Roadhog or Jack O Lantern Lucio is pretty appealing.
 
I'm sort of glad I didn't buy and get sucked into this game, this would have sucked for me. What if they put limited skins for a lot of stuff. Looking like Hearth Stone, but characters are not locked behind a unlock.
 
Surely it's reasonable to expect them to design a system in which no one is being exploited? Why should anyone be exploited at all? Again they are so many other options they could take. It doesn't have to be like this. There are so many other systems that could be used there's just no reason to defend this.
No matter what system is in place, someone would be disadvantaged. Random drop crates are bad for addicts, buying skins directly is bad for people who do shopping "therapy", letting you buy credits instead is bad for people who hoarde items and want everything and fast.

Because they expected better of Blizzard than to suddenly remove the ability to buy things with coins. Since you can buy coins through loot crates then they had no reason to think something like this would happen. I've seen a lot of people saying they're saving up coins for future skins.

But that trust then comes from the side of the buyer, not the company. Doing such a thing before you've even heard about how we might be getting some new skins is 50% chance of you lucking out and getting them early, and 50% chance of you having wasted money for nothing.
 
At this point, I'm just really curious to see how Blizzard hand-waves this away.

When you think about it, I'm sure that the IOC paid Blizzard to do this promotional event, and the fact that they turn around and fleece their players right after...

I'm sure their explanation will be comical at best.
 
Well, it is a ridiculous thing to do regardless of Blizzard being a good guy/bad guy. Who would spend real money to maybe get gold coins that they might be able to use to get items that they might want in a future release. It makes no sense, especially since they could buy those boxes at any time.

See above. They expected future skins to be unlock able the exact same way all skins except the pre-order skins were. Saving up coins doesn't mean they were buying loot rates explicitly to get coins either.
 
Toss off with the "aplogist" stuff. The words being used in this thread are pretty extreme. Like, "a new low in microtrasactions"? It is in no way that bad. Event items that drop randomly with money to get more drops is a decade old for video games. Hell, what about Valve not doing anything about CS:GO betting systems for ages? You can't both have a thread deeming it "a new low" and also not compare it to similar games. The anger here is stupid.

You are acting like a apologist though. And the new low comment is literally a reference to another Overwatch thread, hence the quotes and the in all seriousness comment that immediately follows. I'm sorry that people here are "angry" somehow in spite of the fact that other companies also engage in gross business practices. Everything's all better now!
 
When I was talking with my OW buds about how they'll distribute new skins I half-expected them to introduce new crate series each with their own currencies, which would have been one of the more disturbing but not completely unthinkable options. And yet they found a way to make it substantially worse than that.
 
If the skins are only those skins I don't see much of a problem. I also like how they are separating the items so they won't just clog up the regular loot boxes in the future. If I ended up getting a skin I'd probably use it for a bit but I don't see them being anything I'd use long term.

I'd like to see them do more like that though. Say Halloween and Christmas time. The idea of a santa Roadhog or Jack O Lantern Lucio is pretty appealing.

This sucks for people that are fans of the game that are attached to particular characters. Being locked out of obtaining a skin could really annoy a collector, or a person that just really like the look. Having to gamble for it will really sour the experience balloon the cost of this game. I have only opened about 3 loot crates in the beta but I get the feeling that those things are hard to get good things from (white, white, blue, white OT's sub title for example).

So what happens if you want a skin for a specific character? Have to keep unlocking chests and hope that you get it? That's the only way?

Yes, that is what it sounds like. It reminds me of Marvel heroes Fortune Cards with costumes locked behind certain fortune cards. If those costumes were limited time that is. It sounds very bad, and you can't collect a fail safe like the fortune cards to just out right unlock a costume of your choice if you buy enough of them (collect 99 tokens of this fortune card to unlock this card tier's costume of your choice).
 
This is what it feels like to people who dropped cash on loot boxes to save up some credits

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This is literally the case. I believe in Jeff Kaplan though... hopefully they change it so you can buy 'em with in game currency.
 
See above. They expected future skins to be unlock able the exact same way all skins except the pre-order skins were. Saving up coins doesn't mean they were buying loot rates explicitly to get coins either.

I was only speaking about people spending money on loot crates for gold coins because that is what the original post was talking about.
 
Just like when people talked about how terrible, awful, no-good, very bad the loot drop system was at launch, we'll all just suck it up and accept this, too. Whatever Blizzard does is for the best, that poor little company struggling to get back in thee harsh times.
 
At this point, I'm just really curious to see how Blizzard hand-waves this away.

When you think about it, I'm sure that the IOC paid Blizzard to do this promotional event, and the fact that they turn around and fleece their players right after...

I'm sure their explanation will be comical at best.

IOC has only officially partnered with Nintendo to produce the Mario & Sonic games. The IOC is already threatening brands that promote specific countries and individuals who are not associated with them. So this is purely Blizzard cashing in on the Olympics without actually being associated with the games.

So no, based on the evidence we have, this is parody in no way associated with the IOC or the Rio Olympic Games.
 
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