Steven Universe Season 3 |OT| Clods Among Us

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The Lonely Blade movie was a little more on-point foreshadowing than I'm used to with SU. It was fairly obvious that something was up with Bismuth, but that scene spilled the rest of the story.

Someone's going to get Bismuth's weapon, aren't they? I'm really worried for the whole gem cast right now.
 
100 episodes. Man. I started the show right after Mirror Gem/Ocean Gem. It's amazing how it's kept so good this long.
 
A problem with the episode I have is that the breaking point doesn't seem like that effective of a weapon. Why is shattering so much better than proofing? How would that have made a difference? I mean, those bubbled gems have been there for thousands of years. They're as good as shattered.

Only thing I can think of is that, maybe homeworld was getting the gems that were poofed back somehow and sending them right back to war? I feel like she should have mentioned this to make her argument stronger if so. Right now Bismuth just came across as overly blood thirsty for... some reason
 
Bismuth's last words to Steven as she's impaled on Rose's sword hit even harder when you look at the dialogue before.

Bismuth, almost crying: "You should have shattered me back then. At least if I were in pieces, I wouldn't have to know how little I mattered to you. You didn't even tell them... You bubbled me away and didn't ever tell your friends! MY friends!"

Steven: "I'm going to tell them! I'm gonna tell them everything!"

Bismuth looks surprised for a moment, then chuckles. "Then you really are better than her."

Bismuth goes from addressing Steven as Rose to finally addressing him AS Steven after he says he'll do what his mother didn't. She realizes at the end that Steven really is different.

She was trying to kill him a second ago and I still felt awful for her.

Edit: Plus Steven says something that could hint at how they'll finally deal with Jasper.
Bismuth tells Steven to shatter her and he refuses, saying "Even if we don't agree, nobody deserves this!" They're going to beat Jasper, but Steven will refuse to break her and show her mercy. Hopefully that will throw Jasper for a loop and make her rethink things, especially if she runs back into Homeworld forces and they threaten to punish her with shattering.
 
Bismuth didn't know Steven was not the sort who could be poofed, hence she didn't understand why he was uncertain about sparring with her. She doesn't actually try to kill him until she puts on the Breaking Point at the end of the fight.
Chezzymann said:
A problem with the episode I have is that the breaking point doesn't seem like that effective of a weapon. Why is shattering so much better than proofing? How would that have made a difference? I mean, those bubbled gems have been there for thousands of years. They're as good as shattered.

Only thing I can think of is that, maybe homeworld was getting the gems that were poofed back somehow and sending them right back to war? I feel like she should have mentioned this to make her argument stronger if so. Right now Bismuth just came across as overly blood thirsty for... some reason
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Look what happened with
the battle against Jasper in "Crack the Whip". Jasper poofed Amethyst, she reformed a few minutes later no worse for wear. Stevonnie poofed one of Jasper's minions, but Jasper picked her up and will be able to use her in any future battle again.

Actually shattering gems means you're permanently depleting the opposing force.
 
All those hints about Rose maybe not being as pure as the other Crystal Gems keep saying she was kinda reminds me of all that darker background J.K. Rowling wrote about Dumbledore in the last few Harry Potter books.
 
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It wasn't funny the third time.
 
Wow, I wasn't expecting things to turn out that way.

Two things I'm unclear on.

1.
How does Garnet's Futurevision work again? Like in last episode, shouldn't she have been able to see that Jasper would attack Steven and Amethyst, and come back? And in this episode, shouldn't she have known about Bismuth coming back as well as Bismuth fighting Steven? I feel like I fundamentally missed/forgot how Futurevision works.

2.
Why did they bubble Bismuth again? I mean it seems like they could have reasoned with her. Her beef is with Rose, and on some level she seems to understand that Steven isn't her.

Also,
dat title card.

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Permanently A said:
Wow, I wasn't expecting things to turn out that way.

Two things I'm unclear on.

1.
How does Garnet's Futurevision work again? Like in last episode, shouldn't she have been able to see that Jasper would attack Steven and Amethyst, and come back? And in this episode, shouldn't she have known about Bismuth coming back as well as Bismuth fighting Steven? I feel like I fundamentally missed/forgot how Futurevision works.
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I thought Garnet could 1, only see possibilities, and 2, she has to be searching for something specific, Garnet thought you-know-who was long gone, maybe she did see Jasper at the beach, but it was among many other outcomes and she deemed another more likely
 
Puruzi said:
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It wasn't funny the third time.
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Glad I am not the only one who noticed.

I can't wait for the It's Always Sunny parody.
Steven kills an Old Friend popping up after THAT shot.

Great little detail that may or may not be true.

Bismuth poofed Lapis and attempted to shatter her hence how her Gem got cracked. /theorycrafting.
 
Even if Garnet did see a possibility for things like Jasper showing up, the out that Garnet always has is that she usually doesn't say anything about the possibilities she is aware of. Telling people about them would in turn make those futures more likely to happen; in the sense of telling someone to not think about pink elephants.

Think of the many things Garnet must know but can never say a word about due to the chance of influencing events. Makes me wonder how often Garnet appears to just be hanging around chilling when she is in fact making damn sure obscure but possible timelines don't occur. Like say Amy eating Lion because she got curious or Steven wanting to see what happens if you drag a warp pad onto a warp pad.
 
iirate said:
Someone's going to get Bismuth's weapon, aren't they? I'm really worried for the whole gem cast right now.
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They better, Pile Bunkers are damn rad weapons

Sometimes an episode needs to be 24 minutes instead of 12, this was one of those episodes. Though it felt really odd placement wise?
Like it seem to exist to just give us an old crystal gem that they can easily just never talk about again. I dunno, the episode just feels weird in where it exists within the show.
As in it feels like Bismuth was one and done and we'll never see her again.
 
I guess
Rose didn't want to tell other gems that there is such an weapon. And since she tried to talk to Bismuth - like Steven did it, she (and he) realized that Bismuth could not be awake in this world because of this dangerous weapon

Also,
Rose and Steven doesn't like to see gems/people killed
 
Toxi said:
Look what happened with
the battle against Jasper in "Crack the Whip". Jasper poofed Amethyst, she reformed a few minutes later no worse for wear. Stevonnie poofed one of Jasper's minions, but Jasper picked her up and will be able to use her in any future battle again.

Actually shattering gems means you're permanently depleting the opposing force.
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This

Plus
there's the fact that HW was, ya know, SHATTERING the CGs. You're fighting a war were you're not allow to kill the enemy but they're allowed to kill you?

Also, look at Jasper in general. She's been through SO DAMN MUCH and not once has she been poofed. Be it being thrown into a reactor, having it blow up on her, face tanking a ship falling down around her and getting up to say "Sup bruh, lets fuse >:)". She was unphased by a blow that poofed the gem monster Jasper she was standing on. People seem to underestimate the durability of a fighter gem.

But if a Jasper went flying head first into a Point Break then ... that's a done Jasper.

Also given how gems work it would make complete sense for them to have members of teams or w/e who are like "medics" and collect gems after they have been poofed. So yeah, they could recycle and reuse their troops if they're not captured by the CGs yet the CGs had to face the fact that they better not get poofed on the battle field or else they're gonna be captured and/ or shattered if someone can't get to them in time.
 
I feel one of the biggest pieces of information from this episode is that Bismuth said
that Rose was a regular quartz. Which pretty much squashes all the Pink Diamond theories.
 
Ragnorok64 said:
I feel one of the biggest pieces of information from this episode is that Bismuth said
that Rose was a regular quartz. Which pretty much squashes all the Pink Diamond theories.
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She also didn't think she'd wind up bubbled in a magical familiar...
She was wrong about a lot of things...
 
Ragnorok64 said:
I feel one of the biggest pieces of information from this episode is that Bismuth said
that Rose was a regular quartz. Which pretty much squashes all the Pink Diamond theories.
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Yes and no. I'm more convinced then ever that Rose
isn't Pink Diamond
but
Bismuth's line about how Rose was "grown in earth" seems to contradict basically any time Rose talks to Greg about Earth like its some new place she encountered. She has never sounded like an earth native gem
 
The Technomancer said:
Yes and no. I'm more convinced then ever that Rose
isn't Pink Diamond
but
Bismuth's line about how Rose was "grown in earth" seems to contradict basically any time Rose talks to Greg about Earth like its some new place she encountered. She has never sounded like an earth native gem
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Could have lied about being Earth Grown to gather more sympathy for this planet that no gem seemed to give a shit about before her, Bismuth was more about breaking free from the Diamonds influence and hold over them, doubt she would have cared or even joined her if it was simply to protect Earth.
 
Bismuth also hated
the Homeworld power structure so if Rose were Pink Diamond she surely as hell wouldn't tell Bismuth her truth. This is supported by the fact that Rose keeps secrets which was reinforced today.
 
Ragnorok64 said:
I feel one of the biggest pieces of information from this episode is that Bismuth said
that Rose was a regular quartz. Which pretty much squashes all the Pink Diamond theories.
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In an episode where one of the cornerstones is that Rose lied a lot, I don't feel that statement holds very much weight.
 
I know that we're all still basking in the aftermath of the excellent Bismuth episode, but apparently Beta airs tomorrow in Canada? The 2-minute leaks and screenshots for both it and Earthlings are out now. Remember that they're part of a three-parter, so stuff is going down. The preview for Earthlings naturally spoils what happens at the end of Beta, and the screenshots have some megaton spoilers in them this time.

We were lucky this week because the screenshots for Crack the Whip didn't show Stevonnie fighting Jasper and they only covered the first half of Bismuth. Not so much anymore...
 
The Technomancer said:
Yes and no. I'm more convinced then ever that Rose
isn't Pink Diamond
but
Bismuth's line about how Rose was "grown in earth" seems to contradict basically any time Rose talks to Greg about Earth like its some new place she encountered. She has never sounded like an earth native gem
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I think she said grown in the dirt or something like that. In that she's a normal quartz not that she was gown specifically on Earth since even Bismuth didn't originate from Earth.
 
Let me just say I'm really glad they didn't make Jasper a villain jobber.

Though I don't know how well she would have gone against Garnet.

At least so far it seems the Gem can't beat her unless it's a fusion.
 
Ragnorok64 said:
I feel one of the biggest pieces of information from this episode is that Bismuth said
that Rose was a regular quartz. Which pretty much squashes all the Pink Diamond theories.
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That contradicts Rose's many statements of being new to Earth.
Rose was a great leader but she had a lot of secrets.

I think one surprise we will be that Rose will never lie but rather stretch out the truth.

All points aside, it has been heavily hinted that Steven is royalty. Not to mention all the powers Rose possess. Then we get things like Lion as well. If anything this reinforces the idea that Rose Quartz was Pink Diamond but cut herself into a weaker gem.

She was reborn as a new gem ON EARTH and she claimed she was "born in earth" which wouldn't be a lie in that instance. Which would explain why gems like Bismuth would assume Rose was born in the dirt. Rather then magically be reduced to a weaker form.
 
alfredofroylan said:
The creator of Plebcomics is a girl.
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There's one or two spots of truth but most of her catalog seems to be ol /pol/ rhetoric of "Black people don't care about this, it's all white tattooed pierced hipsters".

That's about can be right but she paints it with an incredibly disingenuous broad stroke.
 
Ragnorok64 said:
I think she said grown in the dirt or something like that. In that she's a normal quartz not that she was gown specifically on Earth since even Bismuth didn't originate from Earth.
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Whoops, had a major typo in there, so quoting the corrected post so people will stop replying to my earlier post.
 
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