Donald Trump suggests 2nd Amendment Folks do something about Hillary

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Makonero said:
It's the left's equivalent of $hillary. Not funny, not clever, and undermines whatever point you were trying to make.
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It'd be more like calling her Hillary Rodham.

Oliver did it in part because Trump had referred to Jon Stewart as "Jonathan Leibowitz" in the past.
 
Makonero said:
It's the left's equivalent of $hillary. Not funny, not clever, and undermines whatever point you were trying to make.
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It shouldn't even be necessary to mock Trump by calling him a funny name. If the truth isn't enough to make him look ridiculous, America is a lost cause.

Besides, in the UK Trump means fart anyway
 
Jeffrey said:
I've seen people with smartphones and I presume the internet (based off the amount of friendly folks on facebook), why don't people ever bother google searching stuff?

Is it weird to want to do some quick searches about anything that comes out of any politicians mouth?

Heck why did people even start trusting Trump in the first place? Thought the rich are the least trustworthy folks, no matter what your class or ethnicity is, is pretty universal?
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actually i just read an article the other day that Fox News is losing ratings to CNN and MSNBC, the author artibuted some of it to fact checking websites like politico.
 
It's insane how detached from reality so many Trump supporters are. Off in their own world staring into whatever fucking reality they have made up or came to believe in their head.
 
tedtropy said:
I realize this probably wouldn't really impact the polls yet...but is 538 actually showing him tracking up a little?
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While true, Hillary had really hit her peak in all three of those models, to be honest. I mean the now-cast had her at like 96 or 97%. You can't do much from there but go down. The Polls-Plus model is even more stingy. Multiple polls had her up by double digits and she only moved a couple points up. Also a candidate normally has their bounce diminish a bit after a convention, so this could be that as well. The PollsPlus takes that into account, while the now-cast does not, which is why it moves so wildly.
 
Elandyll said:
In French, "Tromper" means to deceive, to lie and induce erroneous judgement.

Close enough :)
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Unfortunately, in America I think the closest thing we have is a term that comes from playing cards, particularly bridge. If your hand trumps someone else's it means yours is better than theirs. This is probably not an exclusively American saying, given its origin, but it's the only subconscious connection people are making to the name.

This is the joke behind Clinton's slogan, "Love trumps hate."
 
SlickShoesRUCrazy said:
want me to call him rapey instead?

Hannity is forever lumpy after john stewart went in on him lol.
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Name calling is the basest of critique. Call him whatever you want, it doesn't make you look superior. It makes you look like a child. Incidentally, it's the same way that Trump's name-calling makes him look like a bully and a child. It isn't clever. Don't stoop to his level.
 
I thought it was strange that we are having an entire week of clouds, rain and storms but then I saw that Trump is visiting my city on Friday afternoon. lol
 
Makonero said:
Name calling is the basest of critique. Call him whatever you want, it doesn't make you look superior. It makes you look like a child. Incidentally, it's the same way that Trump's name-calling makes him look like a bully and a child. It isn't clever. Don't stoop to his level.
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I'd also add that mocking Trump because the original name of his great-grandfather "sounds funny" and "foreign" is kind of racist. It was funny for about 5 minutes but anyone still using that as a pejorative gets some serious side-eye from me. Don't become what you are criticizing.
 
Makonero said:
Name calling is the basest of critique. Call him whatever you want, it doesn't make you look superior. It makes you look like a child. Incidentally, it's the same way that Trump's name-calling makes him look like a bully and a child. It isn't clever. Don't stoop to his level.
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I don't think anyone is calling him "Drumpf" as a critique, it's just having some fun at his expense. And since, unlike Trump, we're posting on a video game message board instead of running for president, I don't think we need to hold ourselves to the highest standard of respectful political criticism at all times.
 
Makonero said:
Name calling is the basest of critique. Call him whatever you want, it doesn't make you look superior. It makes you look like a child. Incidentally, it's the same way that Trump's name-calling makes him look like a bully and a child. It isn't clever. Don't stoop to his level.
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But Drumpf isnt name calling, that his real last Name, the context is this was based on Trump looking for saying things like it is and been proud of your heritage, so why not call him for his real last name because he should feel proud about it.
 
Intheflorsh said:
I don't think anyone is calling him "Drumpf" as a critique, it's just having some fun at his expense. And since, unlike Trump, we're posting on a video game message board instead of running for president, I don't think we need to hold ourselves to the highest standard of respectful political criticism at all times.
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That's not really a good excuse for lowering the discourse with name calling, no matter where discussion is taking place. It's obnoxious enough out there already when Republicans do it constantly. There's nothing shameful about immigrants changing their name when coming to America. Trying to make an old family name a pejorative is just a lame attempt at a put down that's past its expiration date.
 
Crocodile said:
I'd also add that mocking Drumpf because the original name of his great-grandfather "sounds funny" and "foreign" is kind of racist. It was funny for about 5 minutes but anyone still using that as a pejorative gets some serious side-eye from me. Don't become what you are criticizing.
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It's not supposed to 'sound funny' The idea when it was on John Oliver was to not call him by the branding extension he made for himself.
 
Caja 117 said:
But Drumpf isnt name calling, that his real last Name, the context is this was based on Trump looking for saying things like it is and been proud of your heritage, so why not call him for his real last name because he should feel proud about it.
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It's not his real last name.
 
the fact that we, the papers and the media are still talking about this two days in a row = 2 days lost on the Trump campain

he has at a minimum one weekly stupid thing going against him

landslide
 
dlauv said:
If this guy makes it in he deserves to.

He's playing the media coverage like a fiddle, and you can't really blame the media too much. These kinds of quotes really should be reported and they bring in ratings. Reality tv culture implosion.
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I wish people would stop giving him credit for this. We the public have been fascinated by this human train wreck of hubris and glittering failure for decades. He's no more master of media manipulation than a hurricane or a botched plastic surgery is.
 
megalowho said:
That's not really a good excuse for lowering the discourse with name calling, no matter where discussion is taking place. It's obnoxious enough out there already when Republicans do it constantly. There's nothing shameful about immigrants changing their name when coming to America. Trying to make an old family name a pejorative is just a lame attempt at a put down that's past its expiration date.
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You're ignoring the whole context of the joke. Trump began calling Jon Stewart by his birth name (Jonathan Lebowitz) and saying that Stewart should be "proud of his heritage". Oliver calling him Drumpf was a response to this by pointing out the hypocrisy.

What you and others are doing strikes me as some kind of tone policing. You're not going to be able to right the course of political discussion when the whole situation is this absurd.
 
Makonero said:
Name calling is the basest of critique. Call him whatever you want, it doesn't make you look superior. It makes you look like a child. Incidentally, it's the same way that Trump's name-calling makes him look like a bully and a child. It isn't clever. Don't stoop to his level.
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People completely missed the point on this one.

The point isn't "Haha let's call him a dumb name".

The point of that entire segment was that the only reason people like him is because of the "value" of his name. They interviewed a bunch of people that all said "He's trump, that's why I like him!" The only reason his steaks/university/buildings/whatever sell is because he plasters his name on them. The idea was that if you take away that name, he loses all of his value, symbolically. It didn't work very well, but it wasn't just "lol let's call him dumb name like he does to everyone else."

BobTheFork said:
It's not supposed to 'sound funny' The idea when it was on John Oliver was to not call him by the branding extension he made for himself.
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This. Trump is a brand and if he can't sell himself then he isn't as powerful.

Intheflorsh said:
You're ignoring the whole context of the joke. Trump began calling Jon Stewart by his birth name (Jonathan Lebowitz) and saying that Stewart should be "proud of his heritage". Oliver calling him Drumpf was a response to this by pointing out the hypocrisy.

What you and others are doing strikes me as some kind of tone policing. You're not going to be able to right the course of political discussion when the whole situation is this absurd.
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Yup. Part of the reason it didn't take off is because people who hate trump but didn't get the context were like "c'mon guys don't stoop to his level", but it's not stooping to his level.
 
Caja 117 said:
Legally it isn't, but Drumpf is the real lineage of his heritage, and Thats the whole point.
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Who gives a shit if his ancestors spelled their name as "Drumpf" at some point in history? What bearing does that have on him? Should everyone whose ancestors changed their surname to Smith at some point now be called Schmidt or Schmitz just because?

Intheflorsh said:
You're ignoring the whole context of the joke. Trump began calling Jon Stewart by his birth name (Jonathan Lebowitz) and saying that Stewart should be "proud of his heritage". Oliver calling him Drumpf was a response to this by pointing out the hypocrisy.

What you and others are doing strikes me as some kind of tone policing. You're not going to be able to right the course of political discussion when the whole situation is this absurd.
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But Trump was born Trump, and so what his father, and his grandfather...

It was a lame joke regardless of the context. Trump is is a despicable human being, but this line of attack or just corny and embarrassing.
 
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Caja 117 said:
Legally it isn't, but Drumpf is the real lineage of his heritage, and Thats the whole point.
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People change their names.

It's silly and childish to call someone by the name that they do not go by legally or otherwise.

You wouldn't call Caitlyn Jenner "Bruce" without being looked at like a low brow idiot. I'd expect the same even for someone like Trump. As nasty and shitty of a person he may be, Trump is his name. Low hanging fruit is his game, doesn't mean it should be everyone else's.
 
BannedEpisode said:
People change their names.

It's silly and childish to call someone by the name that they do not go by legally or otherwise.

You wouldn't call Caitlyn Jenner "Bruce" without being looked at like a low brow idiot. I'd expect the same even for someone like Trump. As nasty and shitty of a person he may be, Trump is his name. Low hanging fruit is his game, doesn't mean it should be everyone else's.
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Intheflorsh said:
You're ignoring the whole context of the joke. Trump began calling Jon Stewart by his birth name (Jonathan Lebowitz) and saying that Stewart should be "proud of his heritage". Oliver calling him Drumpf was a response to this by pointing out the hypocrisy.

What you and others are doing strikes me as some kind of tone policing. You're not going to be able to right the course of political discussion when the whole situation is this absurd.
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Stinkles said:
I wish people would stop giving him credit for this. We the public have been fascinated by this human train wreck of hubris and glittering failure for decades. He's no more master of media manipulation than a hurricane or a botched plastic surgery is.
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On the other hand it doesn't take a genius to manipulate the media. Just a famous asshole with some sense of self-awareness.
 
Angelus Errare said:
Trump suggests shooting his political opponent

Current thread discussion: Calling Trump names is mean.

Love it.
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It's not so much mean as childish and lame and deserves being called out. We're also 20 pages in so what did you expect to see with so many replies? Everybody 100% on topic?
 
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