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[Squall ASF]

One Piece

I was really hoping the flashbacks would come to an end with this week's episode...who knows how long this will drag out? There are already so many potential plot points that this whole sequence feels completely unnecessary and it's not particularly entertaining, either. It's kind of neat seing how Luffy and Ace met, but not several chapters neat. Get on with the other plot lines already!

Man, where the heck is this week's Naruto?

 

[Peff]

I was going to use it as an avatar but got lazy :lol

Hmmm... I'll leave this around here

 

[Zoramon089]

One Piece

I liked Garp's smile when he showed up to beat the shit out of some kids.

Actually I think the smile was him showing up and expecting them to have learned to behave and the beating was upon finding out the reality of the situation

 

[grandjedi6]

I can't imagine Luffy going anywhere without his crew. Rescuing Ace was one thing, but everything else is unimportant to Luffy.

Plus Mariejois is right next to Marine Headquarters and the admirals, who're still way out of Luffy's league. I don't see him facing them off again anytime soon.

Well I do expect Luffy to rejoin his crew before the next arc begins (if it hasn't already). In fact, I expect the plot to force Luffy to go to Shabony for reasons other than his crew being here. But its still possible that the crew reunion will be delayed again. I mean few thought that impel down arc would interrupt it in the first place.

I don't think the admirals and Marine Headquarters are anything to worry about as they'll be busy with the world's current turmoil. And when the admiral inevitably does appear, it would probably be at the tail end of such a hypothetical arc. Actually, this is one of the reasons why I'm unsure about the crew reuniting before this as I can't see Luffy dragging them up with him (as if Ussop could even climb up there himself). Perhaps, hypothetically, Luffy will tell the crew to wait for him and go up there alone? Depends on his reasons for doing so I suppose.

Either way, I expect the story to eventually show Mariejois in full and I can't see any better way than having Luffy 'pull a Tiger Fisher'.

 

[Shanadeus]

One piece

Was kinda... good.
I guess I've been spoiled by the war and whitebeard's awesomeness. Oda will have a hard time outdoing himself.

 

[qcf x2]

I thought this was a surprisingly good Bleach chapter. Gin is an entertaining character. Too bad the obvious romantic element is upon us and he's gonna die soon. Also too bad Ichigo interrupted his speech about Aizen. Seems like Gin would've been content to sit and watch.

 

[That Singer Guy...]

Pretty entertaining chapter to me. I don't get why people are mad at flashbacks when we just got 50-100 chapters of battles all the way from Saobondy to the end of Marineford.

 

[fireside]

 

[grandjedi6]

One Piece

I was really hoping the flashbacks would come to an end with this week's episode...who knows how long this will drag out? There are already so many potential plot points that this whole sequence feels completely unnecessary and it's not particularly entertaining, either. It's kind of neat seing how Luffy and Ace met, but not several chapters neat. Get on with the other plot lines already!

The second world nobles were mentioned last chapter red flags should have gone off in everyone's heads. This isn't just "how Luffy and Ace met", its setting up the mythos and plotlines for the next arc.

Bleach:

I thought this was a surprisingly good Bleach chapter. Gin is an entertaining character. Too bad the obvious romantic element is upon us and he's gonna die soon. Also too bad Ichigo interrupted his speech about Aizen. Seems like Gin would've been content to sit and watch.

Its incredibly suspicious that Gin's bankai is 'god slayer', the chapter's are all called Deicide and Aizen is trying to turn himself into a god. Aizen's not being very genre savvy by not connecting these to their obvious conclusion (of which even Ichigo seems to question).

But yeah, time for the inevitable inclusion of Vice Captain No-one-cares-about-your-breasts. Hopefully it doesn't last long.


EDIT:

Fireside, as long as you understand what I wrote, it really doesn't matter what I call that made up island. If I keep misspelling it (which I do), its because of habit and nothing else. I'm not going to bother looking up the correct romanization everytime I want to mention the "sabaody archipelago"

 

[AFKevin]

New Chapter of Lucifer and the Biscuit hammer came out.

I'm glad she finally confessed to Amamiya, though he should've understood a long time ago. But this upcoming battle with the 11th is going to be great.

 

[Vox-Pop]

The second world nobles were mentioned last chapter red flags should have gone off in everyone's heads. This isn't just "how Luffy and Ace met", its setting up the mythos and plotlines for the next arc.

Bleach:

Its incredibly suspicious that Gin's bankai is 'god slayer', the chapter's are all called Deicide and Aizen is trying to turn himself into a god. Aizen's not being very genre savvy by not connecting these to their obvious conclusion (of which even Ichigo seems to question).

But yeah, time for the inevitable inclusion of Vice Captain No-one-cares-about-your-breasts. Hopefully it doesn't last long.

are you saying Gin might be the "real" bad guy?

 

[Xux]

http://www.onemanga.com/Fairy_Tail/22/14/

 

[fireside]

Bleach:

Its incredibly suspicious that Gin's bankai is 'god slayer', the chapter's are all called Deicide and Aizen is trying to turn himself into a god. Aizen's not being very genre savvy by not connecting these to their obvious conclusion (of which even Ichigo seems to question).

What does "Decide" have to do with god killing

EDIT: Fireside, as long as you understand what I wrote, it really doesn't matter what I call that made up island. If I keep misspelling it (which I do), its because of habit and nothing else. I'm not going to bother looking up the correct romanization everytime I want to mention the "sabaody archipelago"

Lighten up

 

[Anonymous Tipster]

Are the katakana for Sabaody in Sabaody Park and the character Sabo the same?

Wouldn't that be something?

 

[Squall ASF]

Pretty entertaining chapter to me. I don't get why people are mad at flashbacks when we just got 50-100 chapters of battles all the way from Saobondy to the end of Marineford.

It's not that there isn't incredible action, it's that there are so many plot lines run from the events concluded in the last arc and instead of beggining to address them, we get flash backs that aren't really necessary. I don't have huge expectations for the follow up of that arc, I just want the story to progress because there are so many things going on now and this feels like a cheap stalling tactic.

The second world nobles were mentioned last chapter red flags should have gone off in everyone's heads. This isn't just "how Luffy and Ace met", its setting up the mythos and plotlines for the next arc.

I realize this and that's what I'm saying isn't necessary. We already have the crew to be reunited, merman island, what hancock will do (join crew?), the reprecussions of White Beard's death, how the Revolution will react, etc. Do we really need a 'new' plot line flying in and delaying some of the answers we've been looking forward to since the war ended? Furthermore, was it necessary to stretch the flashback this many chapters to get such a plot device planted?

 

[Dedication Through Light]

are you saying Gin might be the "real" bad guy?

I cant really see what purpose Gin serves anymore. Is he there just to pump Ichigo up, does he want Aizen defeated, lol.

 

[Deadly]

The second world nobles were mentioned last chapter red flags should have gone off in everyone's heads. This isn't just "how Luffy and Ace met", its setting up the mythos and plotlines for the next arc.

I'd really rather have the Strawhats reunion as the next arc

 

[Griffith]

One Piece

I've really been liking this flashback so far. It's suprising that the Celestial Dragon didn't make an appearance after being mentioned at the end of last chapter.

Bleach

Hopefully Gin kills Rangiku.

 

[Shouta]

Lighten up

You should probably take your own advice.

 

[grandjedi6]

are you saying Gin might be the "real" bad guy?

Well at the very least I expect him to double cross Aizen in some way. He might get killed for it though.

What does "Decide" have to do with god killing

deicide:

1. the act of killing a god
2. a person who kills a god​

Lighten up

You're the one who's upset by someone's spelling of a made up word.

Are the katakana for Sabaody in Sabaody Park and the character Sabo the same?

Wouldn't that be something?

Saboady: シャボンディ諸島

Sabo: サボ

Doesn't seem to be the same

 

[Anonymous Tipster]

Saboady: シャボンディ諸島

Sabo: サボ

Doesn't seem to be the same

Thank you.


This is the first time baseless speculation has failed anyone. Curses.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

You're the one who's upset by someone's spelling of a made up word.

Well, it's not entirely made-up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_words_of_Portuguese_origin


Saboten (cactus, apparently because cactus juice is soapy) and shabon (soap) come from the Portuguese sabão (soap)

Saboten (cactus): サボテン
Sabo: サボ

Shabon (soap): シャボン
Shabondama (soap bubble): シャボン玉
Shabondy/Sabaody: シャボンディ

 

[Vox-Pop]

What is the difference between noble (Sabo) and world noble (people in space suits)?

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Bleach

Hopefully Gin kills Rangiku.

Ahah, wow. She cant die, she made the recent filler anime arc pretty fun. Though Im intrigued to see what part Kira has in it.

 

[Vox-Pop]

Ahah, wow. She cant die, she made the recent filler anime arc pretty fun. Though Im intrigued to see what part Kira has in it.

Kira will probably end up protecting Gin.

 

[fireside]

deicide:

1. the act of killing a god
2. a person who kills a god​

Thank you, I know what deicide means, but I wrote decide. It was a joke at my expense because I actually thought the last six chapters were named "Decide".

 

[neoanarch]

What is the difference between noble (Sabo) and world noble (people in space suits)?

Sabo is like Vivi or Wapol. The World Nobles are descendants of the nobles who founded the World Government and are still the power behind it.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Bleach
I love Gin.

One Piece
Man the first flashback chapter I was like "awww shee" as I wanted to know what happened next, the second one I was like "Hm...? World Nobles? "

This one? I'm impressed, I didn't expect most of this stuff to happen and feel like this flashback is actually more than a misplaced "Luffy and Ace brotherhood story";
The fact that it adds a lot of fairly unexpected new stuff really makes me like this spoiler.

So, Sabo was just as close and "a brother" as Luffy and Ace [so far]? If he survives this flashback I'm really curious what he turned into.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Thank you, I know what deicide means, but I wrote decide. It was a joke at my expense because I actually thought the last six chapters were named "Decide".

Same here, when I read "Deicide" today I was like "Huh, did Mangastream accidentally spell the chapter title in a way that makes sense and sounds kinda cool? That's surprising."

I guess that once in a blue moon mangastream does write something properly. :lol

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Thank you, I know what deicide means, but I wrote decide. It was a joke at my expense because I actually thought the last six chapters were named "Decide".

lol I didnt even realize it was a REAL word!!!

 

[Versipellis]

SABAODY with red arrows.gif

The thing is that it's written shabondi in japanese dialogues, so that could be pretty confusing. I prefer the "portuguese" version, but just because I think it's more consistent with the world OP takes place in (lots of references to real world pirates, etc.).

 

[Anth0ny]

Nice chapter. I have a feeling this is going to be the longest flash back since the Noland stuff. Which I'm fine with... it is the main character's flash back we're looking at here.

To anyone complaining about these chapters being "boring", you're just spoiled from the last arc. I think we (and Oda) need some time to chill :lol

 

[Elfforkusu]

One Piece: I completely lost it @ the panel where Garp shows up. :lol :lol :lol

 

[qcf x2]

Well at the very least I expect him to double cross Aizen in some way. He might get killed for it though.

What struck me as interesting is that he seemed almost peeved that Aizen snuck the Hogyoku in. As if Aizen sold him a lie that he wouldn't be using it exclusively for himself. No way he'll succeed in killing Aizen, but if that conversation with Ichigo meant anything then Aizen probably betrayed Gin first, and retribution is due.

 

[Combine]

Naruto: http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/43187881/1

 

[El Sloth]

One Piece

Garp showing up just to woop their ass :lol
I guess I'm alone in that I'm really enjoying these flashbacks. It's good downtime after the 'FUCK YEAH, OH FUCK, FUUUUUUUU' of the previous arc. I'm wondering how strong Sabo is now, considering he grew up with Luffy and Ace. Also i wonder what the reasoning will be behind him not even attempting to ave his 'brother' from being executed.

Either way, I expect the story to eventually show Mariejois in full and I can't see any better way than having Luffy 'pull a Tiger Fisher'.

That would be so freaking epic.

Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer

Amamiya being terrified of being hung upside down and Noi's face were good. :lol
The next chapter looks like it'll be really exciting. Can't wait!

 

[Yoboman]

One Piece

I'm loving this flash back... I think some of you would be complaining about anything that happened after the high of the war. There's some genuinely good story telling going on in this chapter, Oda has done a really good job making a connection with Sabo in such a short time.

And I don't think he was just thought up at all. Oda doesn't work like that, it's obvious the whole arc to with Luffy's childhood has been hinted at for a long.

And Garp is hilarious

 

[neoanarch]

One Piece

I wonder if Garp knows about Sabo being a noble. Looking back at the panel it looks like Luffy and Ace got a beating while Garp is holding Sabo hostage.

 

[upandaway]

One Piece

I liked it. Still think Sabo's gonna die. Him being alive just doesn't make sense when you look at how Ace and Luffy behaved for the past 500 chapters.
At the very least, Oda should be able to explain their behavior, or it will really be obvious that Sabo was rushed.

Also I think the Strawhats will rejoin mid-arc, and in a one-after-another manner.
I think some crewmembers already joined up, but I don't remember who with who. Hopefully these groups will have a whole chapter each for their entry, to be really satisfying.

Also, what's up with the huge explanation about the city? It may very well come in later with this kind of attention.

 

[Bisnic]

"It's too early to celebrate, mothafucka!"

:lol

 

[Yoboman]

One Piece

I liked it. Still think Sabo's gonna die. Him being alive just doesn't make sense when you look at how Ace and Luffy behaved for the past 500 chapters.
At the very least, Oda should be able to explain their behavior, or it will really be obvious that Sabo was rushed.

Also I think the Strawhats will rejoin mid-arc, and in a one-after-another manner.
I think some crewmembers already joined up, but I don't remember who with who. Hopefully these groups will have a whole chapter each for their entry, to be really satisfying.

Also, what's up with the huge explanation about the city? It may very well come in later with this kind of attention.

What do you mean how they behaved?

 

[mysticwhip]

Naruto
So fucking funny & and art was excellent

" It's too early to celebrate mothafucka"

 

[upandaway]

What do you mean how they behaved?

Sorry I think I deleted that sentence. I mean, they didn't ever consider working towards finding Sabo again or meeting him. Hell, even wanting to help him escape again.

 

[Yoboman]

Sorry I think I deleted that sentence. I mean, they didn't ever consider working towards finding Sabo again or meeting him.

Uh why would they? Luffy and Ace had their own goals they were working towards, and they only met once in the entire manga. And if you recall correctly when the crew met Ace they were all shocked he had a brother, because he never said anything. When they met Garp, they were all shocked because Luffy had never said anything about Garp. Oh and when Dragon was mentioned as well by Garp, that was another family member Luffy never mentioned about. In fact he knew so little he didn't even realise his father was so infamous.

Why would you expect Sabo to be different?

 

[Versipellis]

One Piece

Nice chapter. I have a feeling this is going to be the longest flash back since the Noland stuff. Which I'm fine with... it is the main character's flash back we're looking at here.

Let's say I hope you're wrong. Nothing personal, of course, but I find Skypiea to be the worst OP arc (flashback included).

To anyone complaining about these chapters being "boring", you're just spoiled from the last arc. I think we (and Oda) need some time to chill :lol

I don't find it boring, just not interesting at all. It may be cute, it may be funny (not much), it may be tear-inducing (not now), but the main story really needs to go on, even without some foreshadowing shown in a flashback. The Ace Rescue Arc had its great moments but it dragged on too much and it overexposed Luffy as a character (he's always there), depriving the series of its usual variety; ok there were many characters around, but they all had to share their "screen time" with Luffy. That's cool for Luffy fans, but I prefer the more varied battles when all the strawhats are on the line.
I just want to know what the other crew members are doing and Sabo's flashback, by delaying the crew reunion, is not helping me liking Sabo (who's an entirely new character and, so far, not that memorable either - maybe he's not even a World Noble) better. And for what we saw up until now, the Ace-Luffy relationship could've been shown in the panels that open each chapter and I don't think we would have missed many important bits (see all the textless panels in this chapter). Then again I don't know what Oda's up to, so next chapter could be super amazing as well. So far I'm disappointed, though.

 

[Combine]

I was kind of hoping that Naruto was going to quote Nagato when it came to faith. Although the comparisons are kind of there since Nagato never did have faith in himself.

 

[upandaway]

Uh why would they? Luffy and Ace had their own goals they were working towards, and they only met once in the entire manga. And if you recall correctly when the crew met Ace they were all shocked he had a brother, because he never said anything. When they met Garp, they were all shocked because Luffy had never said anything about Garp. Oh and when Dragon was mentioned as well by Garp, that was another family member Luffy never mentioned about. In fact he knew so little he didn't even realise his father was so infamous.

Why would you expect Sabo to be different?

I don't mean them to start working together. Ace and Luffy could easily still separate after breaking up with Sabo. But Ace focused on Whitebeard (wanted to kill him and then joined him) and Luffy went all Pirate King for a while.

What's so weird if I expect them to say "Yeah I wanna go to that city and meet up with Sabo again"? They know he gave himself in for their lives.

Edit: I'm going to bed. Just making sure because I already had someone get back at me for abandoning a discussion.

 

[Yoboman]

I don't mean them to start working together. Ace and Luffy could easily still separate after breaking up with Sabo. But Ace focused on Whitebeard (wanted to kill him and then joined him) and Luffy went all Pirate King for a while.

What's so weird if I expect them to say "Yeah I wanna go to that city and meet up with Sabo again"? They know he gave himself in for their lives.

Who says they didn't? Or that events to come won't already have them doing that?

You're assuming a lot, we only know bits and pieces of Ace's early adventures to begin with. And besides we know Luffy's character isn't like that. Even when Ace was originally captured and his vivrecard was burning down, Luffy said Ace has his own adventures and can look after himself. Why would Luffy go out of his way Sabo? That would be inconsistent

 

[Griffith]

One Piece

Let's say I hope you're wrong. Nothing personal, of course, but I find Skypiea to be the worst OP arc (flashback included).


I don't find it boring, just not interesting at all. It may be cute, it may be funny (not much), it may be tear-inducing (not now), but the main story really needs to go on, even without some foreshadowing shown in a flashback. The Ace Rescue Arc had its great moments but it dragged on too much and it overexposed Luffy as a character (he's always there), depriving the series of its usual variety; ok there were many characters around, but they all had to share their "screen time" with Luffy. That's cool for Luffy fans, but I prefer the more varied battles when all the strawhats are on the line.
I just want to know what the other crew members are doing and Sabo's flashback, by delaying the crew reunion, is not helping me liking Sabo (who's an entirely new character and, so far, not that memorable either - maybe he's not even a World Noble) better. And for what we saw up until now, the Ace-Luffy relationship could've been shown in the panels that open each chapter and I don't think we would have missed many important bits (see all the textless panels in this chapter). Then again I don't know what Oda's up to, so next chapter could be super amazing as well. So far I'm disappointed, though.

He's not a World Noble. He's a noble of the Goa Kingdom.

 

[Kettch]

To anyone complaining about these chapters being "boring", you're just spoiled from the last arc. I think we (and Oda) need some time to chill

I don't mind having some down time, but it needs to be about something interesting. I really don't care about Luffy and Ace's childhood. If Sabo turns up in the present time it will have at least had some relevance on the story, but up to this point it could have easily been cut out or condensed to a few panels during Ace's death scene.

At least there's no way this'll be as bad as the Davy Back arc though. That's the only section of the manga that made me feel like skipping through without reading.