New York Post: Woman goes off on perv fondling himself on subway

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WTF @ everyone saying it's common? Really? :|


Everyone's saying that, so I guess it must be true.

But uh... I've used public transportation more or less daily for over a decade here in my city, and I've never seen it, nor have I even heard of such incidents.

Either I'm completely oblivious (in truth I do tend to not pay a lot of attention to other passengers, especially when I'm tired, but I'm not that absent-minded either), or this is an American thing, or something?
I think it's a NYC thing. I've seen some weird shit in the trains.
 
WTF @ everyone saying it's common? Really? :|


Everyone's saying that, so I guess it must be true.

But uh... I've used public transportation more or less daily for over a decade here in my city, and I've never seen it, nor have I even heard of such incidents.

Either I'm completely oblivious (in truth I do tend to not pay a lot of attention to other passengers, especially when I'm tired, but I'm not that absent-minded either), or this is an American thing, or something?

Never get a night bus in London. Wanking, guys and girls pissing in the corners of the bus, fucking , guys getting head etc etc is all common.
 
OMG wow, I know this guy! [snip] And, honestly, I somehow seriously doubt he was actually doing what she thought he was, but, man, I feel bad for the him either way. Holy shit.

Clearly that can't be, despite your experience with him, because everyone here has made up their minds that there's not even a chance the woman was mistaken.
 
Considering that my wife gets harassed every single damn time she leaves the house without me, I wouldn't put it past a pervert to wank it on the bus/train. I live in Los Angeles, and take public transportation every day, and I've definitely seen people fondling themselves on the bus, even if they didn't whip it out and jerk it.

While I don't always take everything I see at face value, I also don't see a reason to believe that this woman is bullshitting. I mean, what does she profit from making up something like this? For internet points? To become youtube famous? This'll be a forgotten story in a few days. She's not going to be on the Morning Show and getting booked on Kimmel for a few months because she recorded herself yelling at a pervert and posted it on the internet.

Personally, the guy looked guilty as fuck. He didn't argue with her and profess his innocence. I think he was caught dead to rights. The world is a big place. A big place where there are people bold as brass enough to do something like this and get busted, and other people bold as brass enough to call them out on it. And record it. And share it on the internet.
 
While I don't always take everything I see at face value, I also don't see a reason to believe that this woman is bullshitting. I mean, what does she profit from making up something like this? For internet points? To become youtube famous?

Another, much simpler answers, is that she was mistaken. We have no idea what she saw; she could have mistaken a gesture for something else (in a manner reminiscent of this myth)

It's also possible he was doing what he was accused of. But I've seen enough people make mistakes in my life that I'm not going to damn him myself without evidence of what he's accused of, even if the odds may be in the woman's favor (though I have no idea what those odds actually would be...)
 
This is New York City we're talking about.

Most residents who lived her long enough would have flagged him as suspicious for having his hands under his bag while sitting like that. I most definitely would have and I normally do my best to ignore everything and everyone during my commute.
 
Damn ok I concede that there's no evidence at all, unless the dude on the fly zipped up..his fly as he was getting up. But his reactions were a little weird after the lady started going all out on the man. But if that poster who says he knows the guy is honest, I can see why he would have tried to ignore the lady screaming bloody murder at him.

You see some stuff on the nyc trains man.

In retrospect, it'd be messed up if the guy himself thought the lady was a weirdo on the train, who decided to to yell at him out of the blue.
 
Another, much simpler answers, is that she was mistaken. We have no idea what she saw; she could have mistaken a gesture for something else (in a manner reminiscent of this myth)

It's also possible he was doing what he was accused of. But I've seen enough people make mistakes in my life that I'm not going to damn him myself without evidence of what he's accused of, even if the odds may be in the woman's favor (though I have no idea what those odds actually would be...)

Well, yeah, of course she could be mistaken. He could also be a big pervert. At the end of the day, none of this discussion is really going to affect this guy, because the vast majority of us will never cross paths with him, or interact with him in any way, or be in a position to affect his life in any way.

And how is her being mistaken a simpler answer than him being caught jerking off? I think both are equally plausible, especially considering that behavior like that is pretty common in public transportation.

The odds being in her favor are actually pretty simple, and can be completely gleaned 100% from this video:

1) He never denied her accusations. Most people reflexively respond to untrue accusations, no matter how loudly the accusations are being hurled at him.
2) He was holding the backpack over his lap, with one hand hidden behind it during the early part of the video. When he stood up to get off of the bus, he kept his back pack covering his lower area, and only moved it when his long shirt was pulled down over his zipper.

This is going to be TMI, but I remember being in class and getting a woody just as the class bell rung. I stood up with my backpack covering my dick so no one would see and make fun of me. This guy's behavior was very similar, although, naturally, nobody can say with 100% certainty what happened, but this guy's response to the accusations points more to him being guilty. And no, "'scary' black woman yelling" isn't enough to warrant the guy not defending himself. If I was accused of being a pervert in front of a bus/train full of people, you better be damned sure I'm going to at least shout a "I didn't do that?!" Ultimately, it doesn't matter. The incident happened, and either he did it or he didn't. Our opinions on it won't affect things either way.
 
I haven't seen anyone straight up jacking it on the train (and on a crowded 2 on the way to Times Square? fucking amateur) although I have seen a few guys behave creepily and been told of it by my female friends. Glad she scared the living daylights out of this guy.

That said I've also had ballscratching mistaken for masturbation, but that was at home by a cousin of mine. Who digs in to scratch their balls on the train, you do that over the fabric.
 
Never get a night bus in London. Wanking, guys and girls pissing in the corners of the bus, fucking , guys getting head etc etc is all common.

What night buses are you getting? Anything too rowdy and the bus driver pulls over,shuts down the bus and alerts the police.

Who usually have live links to the cameras on the bus.
 
Well, yeah, of course she could be mistaken. He could also be a big pervert. At the end of the day, none of this discussion is really going to affect this guy, because the vast majority of us will never cross paths with him, or interact with him in any way, or be in a position to affect his life in any way.

Huh? Just because most of us won't meet this guy doesn't mean it won't have a huge effect on him, whether he's guilty or not. This video's already gone viral. I've had friends in other viral videos (thankfully the good kind) be recognized on the street; why would he be any different?

And how is her being mistaken a simpler answer than him being caught jerking off? I think both are equally plausible, especially considering that behavior like that is pretty common in public transportation.

A simpler answer than the only other alternatives you gave for her motivation; it wasn't a comparison to the accusation itself.
 
This reminds me of that video of the Australian woman on a us bus. The guy is in a sort of trance and doesn't stop wanking straight away, even though she is calling him out.

Also seen a video where a dude just jizzes on the back of the head of the guy in front before getting off.

Some really disgusting perverts out there that need locking up.
 
This reminds me of that video of the Australian woman on a us bus. The guy is in a sort of trance and doesn't stop wanking straight away, even though she is calling him out.

Also seen a video where a dude just jizzes on the back of the head of the guy in front before getting off.

Some really disgusting perverts out there that need locking up.

shit dude what youtube channels are you subscribed to?
 
What night buses are you getting? Anything too rowdy and the bus driver pulls over,shuts down the bus and alerts the police.

Who usually have live links to the cameras on the bus.

The wrong ones apparently. Most of the time the bus drivers don't give a shit and just want to get home.
 
He showed an awful lot of compliance for someone who wasn't doing something he was being accused by some stranger. had no words. Clearly the woman was correct cause the guy was acting "caught" as hell.
 
He showed an awful lot of compliance for someone who wasn't doing something he was being accused by some strangery. Clearly the woman was correct cause the guy was acting "caught" as hell.

"get off the train or I will beat your ass, I'm crazy!"

must be guilty he complied.
 
OK, there's a part of me that feels bad for this guy, because he looks like a scared deer caught in someone's headlights, but public masturbation on mass transit is a really common and well known problem. So, I don't at all find it hard to believe that he was caught in the act and yelled at. Frankly, calling out this behavior is a public service.
Public masturbation/fucking/etc on public transit is not common. I'm sure it happens. I'm sure it happens more often than people want. But its not common. Not in NY. Not in Russia. Nowhere.
 
Never get a night bus in London. Wanking, guys and girls pissing in the corners of the bus, fucking , guys getting head etc etc is all common.

And I thought we finns are crazy when drunk. Have used night buses billion times in Helsinki and never seen anything like that. Drunks yelling at random people and couple of times someone smoking is the most I have seen...
 
If the dude was masturbating in public he needs help, something isn't quite working how it should be is it? Is this really the way we should deal with people? I know peoples first reaction is "Ugh what a disgusting fucking pervert" but you know, maybe just maybe empathy or at the very least common sense should dictate this individual needs help rather than being made to feel like a piece of sub human garbage and humiliated,

Considering how common it is to harass women in public/push hard on's against them on the train/flashing, I doubt 'masturbating in public' is a sign of a mental illness. People do it for a cheap thrill, not because they can't help themselves.

And most people are basing their believing it on his behavior and the fact that it is common. She could have flipped out so hard because it was the third guy she saw doing it that day. She could be mistaken sure. But acting like this whole thread is full of people saying they believe her is weird when most of the thread is defending him.

Also, I find it weird that this type of stuff is where people on the internet tend to draw the 'lets wait for the facts/his side of the story!' line. Every time.
 
Here's the Australian woman video.


Warning: Graphic NSFW

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We need to ask for his side of the story, that white stuff leaking out could have been like, an infection after all.

All the stuff you are listing though is signs of abnormal behaviour, it isn't normal to do these things, there is a reason people feel compelled to do them, if they are that compelled to behave like this then that is a sign something isn't right with them.

Some people do it for the cheap thrill I agree but we can't completely discount the idea that some individuals do it because they are suffering from issues beyond that and we also can't jump to the conclusions that the majority are doing it for a cheap thrill, not without evidence to back that up anyway.

My point is, it's easier to judge people rather than try to understand why they are the way they are.

Then there are A TON of not diagnosed people with mental illness walking around being otherwise normal. I don't want to get into a 'we should show people who behave badly compassion because there is something wrong with them' argument, that's gotten me into trouble before. But if you honestly believe that the vast majority of people who do this are just 'ill' and not simply assholes, please actually talk to women in your life and ask them how many times people have shouted nasty things at them or otherwise harassed them sexually in public. Perhaps it will change your mind.
 
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1. Is this real
2. Why the fuck do people do this? Do you just cum into your pants and walk around like a disgusting animal with a spilled load in your underwear and hands? Who are these freaks who do this?
 
You know what could have defused that situation?

Woman: What are you doing?

Man: "moves the hand behind bag out in front and lifts bag up for woman to see and feel stupid.

Woman: Oh i'm sorry

Man:


Edit: In a perfect world that is.

In what perfect world can some stranger walk up to you and demand to see your hands and know what you are doing?

I'm not going to explain myself to some crazy person yelling accusations at me on a train.
 
Some of you guys would make for terrible moral support.

"A guy was jerking off in front of me."

"But how do we know that actually happened?"

"I saw him. That sort of thing happens all of the time."

"Well I haven't heard his side of the story. Maybe he just was scratching himself."
Or it could be that he actually wasn't doing it. Don't get me wrong, public masturbation is extremely disgusting and should be called out if someone is in fact doing it. But when this video just starts with this woman screaming at him with no evidence pointing to him jerking it other than people trying to pull things like "the position of his bookbag" and "he was wearing sunglasses!!" ..I'm not going to berate the dude.

Also this -
OMG wow, I know this guy! I see him pretty often in the wakefield 241st area of the Bronx. Usually see him during mornings or when coming back from work at or near the McDonalds. Even saw him a few times at the barbershop where I cut my hair, also near that area.

For one, the guy from my interactions with him is a very friendly dude. At times it will make you uncomfortable just how friendly or familiar he can be with you despite you guys having just met, or despite how little you know about each other. I also, at least from my experiences with him, suspect he might very well be mentally challenged, so I can imagine what being shamed like this probably did to the poor guy. And, honestly, I somehow seriously doubt he was actually doing what she thought he was, but, man, I feel bad for the him either way. Holy shit.
 
Yeah I'm against public masturbation. That being said there's no actual proof or strong evidence that this guy was actually masturbating outside of a woman yelling at him

I don't have a horse in this race tho, this video was hilarious regardless
 
In what perfect world can some stranger walk up to you and demand to see your hands and know what you are doing?

I'm not going to explain myself to some crazy person yelling accusations at me on a train.

To add to this I've known numerous people including both of my brothers who, if put in this situation wrongfully, would be mortified to the point of not being able to get more than a squeak out.

I assume the lady is correct in what she saw if only because no other "straphanger" (ugh...) said otherwise but if your only reason to think he's guilty is his lack of defense you need to meet more people. Everyone handles things differently.
 
What night buses are you getting? Anything too rowdy and the bus driver pulls over,shuts down the bus and alerts the police.

Who usually have live links to the cameras on the bus.

Yeah other than the odd bit of fare evasion and rowdy drunkards singing I have never seen pissing and wanking on the bus. Vomiting we might be having a convo. I did however once get threatened with violence when I asked a crackhead not to smoke. I decided not to get stabbed or end up knocking 50 shades out of the dude and I just went to the lower deck.
 
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