I read this and thought "the odds of this happening probably aren't that far off". But any kind of campaign-destroying gendered slip by Trump would be glorious.
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I read this and thought "the odds of this happening probably aren't that far off". But any kind of campaign-destroying gendered slip by Trump would be glorious.
DeviantBoi
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I'm getting flashes of Gore/Bush debates... hard to imagine him losing the debates, and yet he did.... SIGH
QuantumZebra
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or insinuates she's on her period during the debate
Bush was severely misunderestimated.
Operations
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You guys are way too confident. Remember facts weight very little unfortunately, apparently far less than narratives.
Trump will try to beat Clinton using the same technique Romney used in 2012 to beat Obama in one f the debates: the Gish Gallop:
There is a genuine risk Clinton will be overwhelmed with the BS thrown at her and lose.
Trump will try to beat Clinton using the same technique Romney used in 2012 to beat Obama in one f the debates: the Gish Gallop:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gish Gallop
There is a genuine risk Clinton will be overwhelmed with the BS thrown at her and lose.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Trump was probably the guy who never studied for tests because he preferred to just "wing it".
I don't really understand who this debate is for.
Trump is an absolute moron with zero credibility whatsoever and no plans at all on how to accomplish anything. And none of the mouthbreathers that support him care.
So this will just reestablish that fact, and he'll still have 40% of this country voting for him.
Trump is an absolute moron with zero credibility whatsoever and no plans at all on how to accomplish anything. And none of the mouthbreathers that support him care.
So this will just reestablish that fact, and he'll still have 40% of this country voting for him.
Uh...Clinton's actually doing the work. She's not underestimating Trump but reading him like a book.
Clinton is the master of handling Bulls hit. Don't forget the benghazi hearing!
Although the debates are the last big chance to really change the direction of the election, there's a good argument that Trump just isn't capable of focusing long enough to do proper debate prep and rehearsal which could take hours on end.
In this case it'll be unlimited border walls and no Muslims ever.
Trump won't have the luxury of multiple opponents to distract from his lack of expertise and policy. He's also completely unhinged and thin-skinned and will likely be rattled by any subtle tactics Hillary throws at him to disrupt his game.
Hillary is a master debater and will be completely in control going by past debates and the Benghazi hearing.
Hillary is a master debater and will be completely in control going by past debates and the Benghazi hearing.
Why are you trolling me right now??? >:|
brianmcdoogle
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Chatter was it was going to be Anthony Weiner at one point.
adamsappel
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I told you about zingers, bro! I told you!
Orbis Tabula
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Colbert is obviously the perfect person to play Trump.
So basically.
Debates are going to be brutal.
Accurate.
Robert Smigel/Triumph is a perfect Trump and already has debate prep experience.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w-RXSVVnOhA
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w-RXSVVnOhA
LegendofJoe
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I would relish the opportunity to take Trump down in a debate. I'd put everything I had into preparing for it. Thankfully, it appears that Hillary feels the same way.
Honest question: Do you think Trump's campaign team may give him some sort of sedative before the debate starts?
ebullientprism
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I wonder what are the odds that Trump ends up swearing or saying a racial slur?
I know its unlikely but I dont think its that unlikely.
I know its unlikely but I dont think its that unlikely.
It wouldn't surprise me, it's their best bet to calm him down. If he melts down live on national television, oh my.
Mr Trump here is your glass of water!
Stumpokapow
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The "gotchas" on Clinton are not difficult.
Emails: I have already admitted that it was a mistake to run a private email server. I was advised to do so by my predecessor, Colin Powell. I am not technologically savvy, and I followed the best advice I could have. I now recognize that this was wrong. An FBI inquiry concluded that what I did was wrong, and I take responsibility. I will not make this mistake again.
Clinton Foundation: My family foundation has done great work curing Tuberculeprosy in East Kajiristan (or whatever it is Clinton foundation supposedly does, it doesn't really matter). As part of our efforts, we meet with leaders, scientists, companies, and public ambassadors. I recognize that the appearance of a conflict of interest can be a problem even when there is no real conflict of interest. No one has been sold access or promised favours. Just the same, as President the foundation would take clear steps <a>, <b>, <c> to avoid any such appearance.
On Bill and sexual assault or infidelity or whatever: I will not dignify conspiracy theories and fringe accusations with an answer. My husband and I went through a period where our marriage was stained by his actions, and I was publicly embarrassed. The work we did to repair our marriage is private and none of your business. It is a particularly nasty form of abuse against women to drag them through the public because of private marital issues.
On Huma and Weiner: I know the pain Huma is going through right now, but beyond friendship this is not a public issue. Let me add, telling women they have poor judgment for sticking through a rough patch in their marriage with a philanderer is blaming the victim. This issue is going to be hard enough for <Huma's kid's name>--the public should give Huma and Mr. Weiner space to complete their separation and work on raising <Huma's kid's name>
Are these good answers which dismiss the concerns? No, of course not. That's not the point in the debate. It's not even the point to change anyone's mind. If someone hears the answer and thinks "I dunno, still seems like there's something to it to me", that's fine. The point in the debate is just to prevent a weak spot from being a soundbite. There are plenty of boring ways to defuse this stuff.
Emails: I have already admitted that it was a mistake to run a private email server. I was advised to do so by my predecessor, Colin Powell. I am not technologically savvy, and I followed the best advice I could have. I now recognize that this was wrong. An FBI inquiry concluded that what I did was wrong, and I take responsibility. I will not make this mistake again.
Clinton Foundation: My family foundation has done great work curing Tuberculeprosy in East Kajiristan (or whatever it is Clinton foundation supposedly does, it doesn't really matter). As part of our efforts, we meet with leaders, scientists, companies, and public ambassadors. I recognize that the appearance of a conflict of interest can be a problem even when there is no real conflict of interest. No one has been sold access or promised favours. Just the same, as President the foundation would take clear steps <a>, <b>, <c> to avoid any such appearance.
On Bill and sexual assault or infidelity or whatever: I will not dignify conspiracy theories and fringe accusations with an answer. My husband and I went through a period where our marriage was stained by his actions, and I was publicly embarrassed. The work we did to repair our marriage is private and none of your business. It is a particularly nasty form of abuse against women to drag them through the public because of private marital issues.
On Huma and Weiner: I know the pain Huma is going through right now, but beyond friendship this is not a public issue. Let me add, telling women they have poor judgment for sticking through a rough patch in their marriage with a philanderer is blaming the victim. This issue is going to be hard enough for <Huma's kid's name>--the public should give Huma and Mr. Weiner space to complete their separation and work on raising <Huma's kid's name>
Are these good answers which dismiss the concerns? No, of course not. That's not the point in the debate. It's not even the point to change anyone's mind. If someone hears the answer and thinks "I dunno, still seems like there's something to it to me", that's fine. The point in the debate is just to prevent a weak spot from being a soundbite. There are plenty of boring ways to defuse this stuff.
Yeah Trump is just going to lie and insult her.
I think Hillary will be able to handle it. Even Obama improved a lot after the first debate when he adapted to the bullshit. Hillary seems to be preparing for this.
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I don't think he's going to go as far as calling her a "bitch" or a "cunt". To my knowledge he hasn't yet.
But more likely is Trump believing that as long as he manages to avoid calling anyone a "bitch" or a "cunt" he has immunity from allegations of sexism. Trump certainly seems like someone with that simplistic a view of the nature of sexism.
I can easily envision Trump talking over Clinton, trying to tell her to "be quiet" in a condescendingly dismissive manner, or any other the other myriad of ways Trump expresses sexism without uttering those two aforementioned slurs.
Version 3.0
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No, he'll just BS or change the subject. He's actually really good at not answering questions.
40% of voters, not 40% of the country. And hopefully he at least slips into the 30s.
TheOfficeMut
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The debate format should be Hillary on stage talking to a podium with a hoisted laptop and Donald's Twitter page open.
It's the only way Donald will have enough time to respond with his most coherent response: "Sad!"
Otherwise the debate will just be unfair to him. And we don't want Mr. DonDon to weep and think the media is out to get him, now do we?
Wahhhhhh
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Don Don
Wahhhhhhhhhhh
It's the only way Donald will have enough time to respond with his most coherent response: "Sad!"
Otherwise the debate will just be unfair to him. And we don't want Mr. DonDon to weep and think the media is out to get him, now do we?
Wahhhhhh
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Don Don
Wahhhhhhhhhhh
Clinton can press him about these issues and hit him hard when he tries to weasel out. Trump's...not really smart.
I think we're a little past that. Isn't she like 70?
RustyNails
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You mean *loud sigh*
Operations
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Again, this is the man who DESTROYED Jeb. Don't underestimate his abilities.
adamsappel
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McCain called his wife a cunt in front of reporters. What a maverick!
TheOfficeMut
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You REALLY think Trump knows about the female anatomy?
Is this really some big achievement? Jeb was hardly some political maestro.
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No, he did not "destroy" Jeb. Jeb underperformed in a crowded lineup of 10+ participants while Trump was able to make a spectacle of himself. A GOP primary debate is not like a one-on-one GE debate.
Don't overestimate his abilities.
PreyingShark
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It's for the independents who still think that this election is a "lesser of the two evils" and that Clinton and Trump are somehow comparable, and that which one is the worse evil is up to a person's own viewpoint and opinions.
When in reality it's a solid candidate who's made some mistakes in the past VS a racist psychopath who basically fluked his way to the nomination by taking the Southern Strategy to its natural extremist conclusion.
Aaron Strife
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Also, when he would go in on the other candidates (Fiorina, specifically) it completely blew up in his face and he lost ground in polling. Trump did better by largely staying out of it. Can't do that in a 1-on-1!
Lord Frieza
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Trump has talking about how 'rigged' the debates are, and I do believe he dropped out of at least one debate in the primaries, maybe more? There's precedent.
Lol, people keep saying this, but I actually feel like Trump has become very predictable in how he operates. You can almost coin his moves now, and how he'll handle certain situations. If anything, I would say he's become the most predictable candidate in recent years, because all he does and says is basically a echo of something he already did and said.
Sectorseven
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Jeb was a mess.
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