Breath of the Wild is the official subtitle for Zelda U/NX, first gameplay trailer
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TheMoon
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This game is really
Breath of the Wild is Firewatch Gaiden.
https://twitter.com/AndreSegers/status/771073323237158912
lol poor guy
ReyVGM
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Did you get tired of seeing the same pig enemies in every other zelda game?
You're just setting up yourself for disappointment.
Breath of the Wild is Firewatch Gaiden.
https://twitter.com/AndreSegers/status/771073323237158912
lol poor guy
I've seen so many BotW gameplay videos, analysis, and theories, and I still can't wait for this. Should be a fun hour.
Other Zeldas aren't Breath of the Wild. What we've been shown so far was Messing Around: The Game and messing around in a world is more fun when there's a lot of variety - enemies included.
Kissenkopf
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You could see already different enemies in the trailer and I bet there will be a huge amount of different monsters in this one too. Maybe the great plateau belongs to these piggy things.
I'm not particularly concerned about that, I just don't think the way ReyVGM dismissed dragonzdogma's point was fair. BotW is a departure for the Zelda series and departures bring new needs with them, so referring to how it's been in past games isn't enough.
If the E3 demo is representative of the beginning of the game, you'll be too busy with other stuff than concentrating on what kind of enemies you'll encounter on the plateau, anyway. At least that was my experience.
Stop complaining about the bokoblins, people. This is the very beginning of the game, and they probably aren't going to show footage of later areas until the NX reveal.
The only reason to complain is if you're worried the full game isn't going to have enemy variety. And if you're worried about that, then stop and think about it for more than 5 seconds and you'll come to the logical conclusion that you shouldn't worry. One, please name a Zelda game that didn't have good enemy variety. Two, we've already seen enemy variety in the trailer and in the starting area itself. We've seen bokoblins (with some variety in them), keese (with variety), stal-bokoblins, chu-chus (variety), guardians (mobile and immobile), mini-guardians, a giant rock monster, weird giant horned pig, and a giant lumbering skeleton monster. And that's just off the top of my head. There might be more I've forgotten. And we've got 90%+ more game to discover. Enemy variety is not something worth even thinking about because it's guaranteed.
The only reason to complain is if you're worried the full game isn't going to have enemy variety. And if you're worried about that, then stop and think about it for more than 5 seconds and you'll come to the logical conclusion that you shouldn't worry. One, please name a Zelda game that didn't have good enemy variety. Two, we've already seen enemy variety in the trailer and in the starting area itself. We've seen bokoblins (with some variety in them), keese (with variety), stal-bokoblins, chu-chus (variety), guardians (mobile and immobile), mini-guardians, a giant rock monster, weird giant horned pig, and a giant lumbering skeleton monster. And that's just off the top of my head. There might be more I've forgotten. And we've got 90%+ more game to discover. Enemy variety is not something worth even thinking about because it's guaranteed.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I can imagine someone trying to fly straight to the final boss doing that
Evil's Bane
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Skyward Sword. The very last 3D one that came out.
TheMoon
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I can imagine someone trying to fly straight to the final boss doing that
lack of fire arrows will take care of that
ReyVGM
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Exactly. We have seen nothing. No need to 'complain' about seeing the same enemies if we've only seen 2% of the game.
If you spent months seeing the same opening area in other Zelda games, you would also see the same enemies over and over, but that's not representative of the final game.
That's why I asked if he got tired of the same enemied in other Zelda games too.
TheMoon
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Evil's Bane
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It's more the spread that's the problem. A lot of these enemies are encountered only a few times while the game throws a metric fuckton of Bokoblins at you.
Sorry, but no. Skyward sword presents new enemies with unique functions throughout the game, and whenever we see an enemy with a similar character model, it still often fills a unique role in combat.
Yup. Was just about to post the same thing.
Mato
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My bet is on a resurrection rune. Called Anagenesis or something, to fit with the Greek-inspired naming convention. It will allow to Link to bring all those ruins back to life. Link being the light that must shine upon Hyrule, i.e. resurrect the decayed Kingdom.
TheCongressman1
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Exactly. Wind Waker actually has quite a few less, but SS feels like you only fight various colors of Bokoblins. The enemies that were really cool, you rarely ever see. And not having a Darknut is a freaking sin in a Zelda so focused on combat.
Evil's Bane
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Darknut was such a fucking no brainer and it's not in the game. I'm still baffled years later.
They better not skip out on those again. They're always fun to fight.
Found an enemy you can't beat? No problem. Just find a nearby cliff, glide over them, bomb them, land far enough away that they won't chase you, and repeat until they're dead. I doubt I'll be taking advantage of these exploitations much (unless the game is harder than I'm thinking it will be), but if it allows for cool tricks and gifs it's all good.
If SS had genuinely good enemy variety, I wouldn't have been fighting Bokoblins 70% of the time. Less pathetic mooks, more Stalfos that I actually have to try against please.
If SS had genuinely good enemy variety, I wouldn't have been fighting Bokoblins 70% of the time. Less pathetic mooks, more Stalfos that I actually have to try against please.
Evil's Bane
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Darknuts aren't really human. They're monsters that take on a humanoid form. Or at least that's what they were the one time we got a look at them.
lol it's a doberman.
Anyway, the humanoid half is only part of it. It's obvious that Darknuts hail from some traditional Medieval culture like Hyrule or another kingdom that would need armies of warriors decked out in metallic battle armor. But this kind of nation state wasn't established in SS yet. The last war that happened was the one between Hylia and Demise, and she just cobbled together a bunch of peaceful races as her army. The NPCs and humanoid monsters we see in the game have really shoddy, unorganized bits and pieces of weaponry and shields that don't hearken to any sort of well-run military.
It just doesn't seem like a setting where Darknuts would fit in easily, at least without a drastic redesign. If anything, I just would've littered the place with more Lizalfos if we needed to up the challenge factor because fuck those things.
Anyway, the humanoid half is only part of it. It's obvious that Darknuts hail from some traditional Medieval culture like Hyrule or another kingdom that would need armies of warriors decked out in metallic battle armor. But this kind of nation state wasn't established in SS yet. The last war that happened was the one between Hylia and Demise, and she just cobbled together a bunch of peaceful races as her army. The NPCs and humanoid monsters we see in the game have really shoddy, unorganized bits and pieces of weaponry and shields that don't hearken to any sort of well-run military.
It just doesn't seem like a setting where Darknuts would fit in easily, at least without a drastic redesign. If anything, I just would've littered the place with more Lizalfos if we needed to up the challenge factor because fuck those things.
Evil's Bane
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If the canon was an issue they could have made them into badass robot guards that inhabit the time stone sections like they did Beamos and Armos. Or some kind of elite soldiers from Demise's reign reawakened. Or anything.
I don't think they're as strict about the canon as you're saying though.
If it's any reassurance, between the 100+ Shrines and the dungeons, I suspect there will be plenty of puzzle solving. I'm hoping so at least. I get the sense if you don't care as much for the open air aspect you can focus on questing.
SaganIsGOAT
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I have never played a Zelda game before. Would I be able to jump into this game and understand what is happening?
True dat; that's where the redesign portion comes in. And honestly, we didn't see much of Demise's supposed army now that you mention it. How did Hylia almost lose?
And of course they're not that strict about canon. =P But going back to play SS after TP (SS is actually my first Zelda game so I wouldn't have had context otherwise), I can't say I particularly miss them due to the overall tone and feel of the setting.
You should be able to, yes. They're going to make this the ultimate jumping on point to try to get a larger Zelda audience, I think, and almost every prior Zelda has not been reliant on other Zelda games in order to understand what's happening. There are cool callbacks but you can follow almost every Zelda game's story with no issue as a new player.
Neoleo2143
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Pretty much every Zelda game can be played without the knowledge of the other games. Even direct sequels like Phantom Hourglass and A Link Between Worlds are rather self contained (Though you get a lot out of playing the prequel games any way).
Pretty much every big mystery that the game brings up is likely to be concluded in this game alone.
Evil's Bane
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Almost every game is standalone so no worries. There seem to be a lot more references that you might miss in this one though
Not really as I'm already disappointed for the "only 3DS" Direct and last NX rumors about it being essentially a tablet and not a family of products "like brothers" as Iwata stated, split D-pad and other weird controller designs...
we only can go up from here I guess Anyway they usually talk a bit about Wii U in 3DS Directs and talk about 3DS in Wii U Directs so... who knows really. After all they're releasing new Zelda clips in Twitter and Facebook... It'd be nice if they show us a bit more of the Great Plateau... I'm not talking about a story trailer or anything like that...
Not really as I'm already disappointed for the "only 3DS" Direct and last NX rumors about it being essentially a tablet and not a family of products "like brothers" as Iwata stated, split D-pad and other weird controller deigns...
Anyway they usually talk a bit about Wii U in 3DS Directs and talk about 3DS in Wii U Directs so... who knows really. After all they're releasing new Zelda clips in Twitter and Facebook... It'd be nice if they show us a bit more of the Great Plateau... I'm not talking about a story trailer or anything like that...
I mean, you probably know, but just in case, if it's any reassurance to you-- rather than just a tablet the NX if rumors are true will function as a portable GamePad essentially with the controller parts on, and on your TV I'm sure you'll have access to a regular type of controller since Nintendo likes providing lots of control options these days. So if your concern relates to being unable to play Zelda in a traditional way on NX I'm confident Nintendo will allay your concerns soon, especially since we know from E3 that the game uses a traditional control scheme and it would be very surprising if the Wii U version had normal controls and the NX didn't at least have normal controls as an option if not the default way of playing. Wii U has a second screen and motion control options and apart from gyro BOTW uses neither.
As to more info on Zelda, perhaps someone has a link but IIRC Reggie or someone said we'd get more info (I'm assuming more new info beyond what's in these FB vids) by the end of summer, so that coincides with an NX reveal towards the literal very end of Summer (September 20), if I'm remembering the statement correctly and if it's still true, we should get new Zelda info very soon. ☺
SaganIsGOAT
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Nice!!
I'm sure he's adding the new Amiibo unveiled today and the paraglider bombing tidbit
Can't wait to see it !
dampflokfreund
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At first I was really excited about Andre's Zelda analysis, but 3 months after E3 I'm not sure if they can provide any new details in the old footage they have, there are pretty much countless analysis videos of the Great Plateu on the internet now and I would be very, very surprised if this analysis brings anything new and interesting to the table.
ReyVGM
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Read the post above.
Yeh it was 2013/14 timeframe where I started noticing their videos. They were getting increasingly linked on GAF. They're the go to Nintendo YT channel. Impressive growth.
Even though they are multiplatform, they are the go-to place for in-depth Nintendo coverage.
BrickArmour
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Was this new 4 minute gameplay video already posted?
http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/09/0...araglider-tricks-fire-and-ice-arrows-and-more
Edit: Nevermind, I see it was...
http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/09/0...araglider-tricks-fire-and-ice-arrows-and-more
Edit: Nevermind, I see it was...
AcademicSaucer
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The new video is amazing, even thread worthy
ElectricBlanketFire
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This is going to be the greatest Zelda of all time, isn't it?
Nah, that'll be Skyward Sword.