2016 NFL Season OT - Week Two - The Dream is Dead

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Way overdue...shocked he kept his job as it was. Was last season his first year back from cancer? I remember that being a factor.

Indy has lots of problems though besides Pagano.

They needed to let go of Grigson and Pagano this past offseason. They are going to waste another yr of Luck.
 
I still think Luck is great. But his progression is really lacking an awesome OC maybe?

Colts have had one 100 yard rushing game in his career. Average points allowed in a Colts loss with him as a starter is 34. He is a turnover machine but mostly he needs better teammates and coaches
 
Colts D did everything it could be reasonably asked to do. Luck's INT was a killer. He throws too many Pick 6s. He's not going to be one of the best in the league until he gets better with ball security
To be fair to Luck he has no talent around him. Indy is probably the worst run team in the league, seems like they get nothing out of FA and the draft every year.
 
Luck's turnovers are mostly a syndrome of him playing hero ball because the entire team around him is shit.

Unfortunately it's probably ingrained into him at this point.
 
Yeah Luck is careless but the Indy front office is hot garbage. They strove to do things better this time with Luck than they did with Peyton and they seem to be doing worse. Should have done the smart thing and sent Grigson and Pagano their pink slips.
 
Luck's turnovers are mostly a syndrome of him playing hero ball because the entire team around him is shit.

Unfortunately it's probably ingrained into him at this point.
Yep. Colts fall behind and then Luck has to gunslinger his way back into the game.
 
Andrew is a nice guy, he's never put his nutsack on a physical trainer.

Well first, if we're going to talk about ethics and morals - I would love to see you defend DUI Irsay. Second, being a nice guy doesn't win you Superbowls (unless you're Eli Manning who's the essential nice guy).
 
Luck's turnovers are mostly a syndrome of him playing hero ball because the entire team around him is shit.

Unfortunately it's probably ingrained into him at this point.

Is Luck not responsible for his team not starting off right offensively?
 
Well first, if we're going to talk about ethics and morals - I would love to see you defend DUI Irsay. Second, being a nice guy doesn't win you Superbowls (unless you're Eli Manning who's the essential nice guy).
Peyton Manning is the best QB of the last 20 years, but he was old. I would take 22 year old Andrew Luck over cyborg Manning.
 
Peyton Manning is the best QB of the last 20 years, but he was old. I would take 22 year old Andrew Luck over cyborg Manning.

Cyborg Manning won a Super Bowl.

Let me put it to you this way. If as an Eagles fan, you had the option of winning a SB but then sucking a couple of years after your QB retires - or being an average team in a bad division like the Colts are, what would you pick?
 
Because Andrew Luck is a bum, and you and Jim Irsay fucked up by not going with Peyton Manning.

He's not a bum. Yes he turns the ball over way too much to be considered an elite QB but his O Line isn't great, he has no running game, and his defense is terrible. They haven't gotten anything from the draft either or FA. They are honestly one of the worst run teams in the league. Without Luck, this would be a 2-14 team.
 
People need to get off Luck's jock until he gets the turnovers under control. He has a disproportionately high amount of turnovers for a supposed "Elite" QB.

This 100%. Even when Luck was completely healthy he still had way too many interceptions, but no one ever notices that or just ignores it.
 
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