Cabbagehead
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It happens in the 300 series at times. Sometimes in the hornet and aurora in the cockpit.
Most likely texture bleed.
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It happens in the 300 series at times. Sometimes in the hornet and aurora in the cockpit.
Most likely texture bleed.
Zalusithix
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I haven't looked at the Argo recently to say myself if I see them there. I have seen the effect in numerous other ships throughout the years though, and it certainly wasn't gone as of the last time I started up the game. This has been something that has persisted throughout the years on different OS installs/versions, driver versions, CPU/Ram/GPUs, hard drives, you name it.
The funny part of this video is that if you show it to people who do not understand how the animation system works in SC, they will not be impressed. They will think it looks smooth, like in other smooth FPS games, so nothing new 
And ironically its the biggest compliment of this tech.
And ironically its the biggest compliment of this tech.
They were still had USE popping up, so definitely. Everyone focusing on 3.0, but 2.6 is going to be super impressive.
Dictator93
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No. I was just wondering if you could produce examples so I could see whether it was z-fighting or something else.
Cabbagehead
Member
oh yeah
Zalusithix
Member
If you want, I can spend some time over the weekend cycling through my fleet and documenting where I see it crop up.
Cabbagehead
Member
The funny part of this video is that if you show it to people who do not understand how the animation system works in SC, they will not be impressed. They will think it looks smooth, like in other smooth FPS games, so nothing new
And ironically its the biggest compliment of this tech.
Right that's the beauty of it. But as the backers and folks that has been following this project this is a huge step to better gameplay.
Cabbagehead
Member
So I was watching Wtfosaurus and cig_sherman was chatting in the channel, so I asked him this:
Pretty obvious, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
Should have asked if there will be an option to turn off the kill "ping" sound and if it will bleed over to the PU. It breaks the immersion that they've have been harping on otherwise.
The only reason I brought it up was because he was talking about the Herald's weapons sizes (3 size 3s and 8 size 1 missiles) and how you won't be able to just bolt on new hard points to ships, they'll be stuck with what they have.
I feel like if I brought up something unrelated it would have crossed some invisible line.
Zalusithix
Member
So I was watching Wtfosaurus and cig_sherman was chatting in the channel, so I asked him this:
Pretty obvious, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
"Comparably high end" being the key phrase there. So something like: high end S4 > high end S3 > low end S4 > low end S3 is theoretically possible. It'll really depend on how far the overlap extends. Will the best of a size class top out at barely over the worst of the next class, or will they be capable of being more, but still less than the best of that class? Lots of wiggle room in that answer.
Cabbagehead
Member
lol but actually it's related in some form since it's about fps. ;p
That's what I was thinking. If they want to make components more important than the ship hulls themselves, that's the way to do it.
Btw, the Dual Universe response to Chris' note is great:
Cabbagehead
Member
That's what I was thinking. If they want to make components more important than the ship hulls themselves, that's the way to do it.
Btw, the Dual Universe response to Chris' note is great:
Voxel created title good looking stuff.
Can't wait for CIG own voxel system to come online for asteroids.
Star Citizen should stay in development forever, just so they can come up with exciting new tech. I mean, obviously development will continue regardless, but it won't be the same. #TeamWaitingForTheGameIsTheGame
exmachina64
Banned
If the Super Hornet had won the contest, I'd probably be upgrading from my 325a, but my wallet is safe for now.
Zalusithix
Member
Think of how many times the SH has gone on sale. A large percentage of the user base has had the option to buy one many times over the years. The Vanguard has been on sale far less often, and as such is going to pull significantly more of the vote from that side. Meanwhile the newer members that haven't been exposed to all the SH sales are probably going to be split 50/50 on what ship they want. After all, the vote has little to do with how cool or functional either is, but how people want to pad their fleet with the followup sale.
I mean, just look at our roster. 17 Hornets, 13 of which are the SH variant. It's been on sale enough that over 3/4 of the reported Hornets are Super Hornets lol. Meanwhile there's 9 Vanguards distributed over all the variants.
http://imperialnews.network/2016/09/reverse-the-verse-episode-2-07-summary/
My ship's reworks are finally within sight!
Zalusithix
Member
Oh hell yes. Let the Phoenix be reborn!
Yesssss
Cabbagehead
Member
Seem like Josh is looking at the original concept art of the ship and the mock ups to push towards that with the rework. Also hes looking to giving more bay more space, while putt work into the cockpit and changing how the seats work in general. He was on a posting frenzy on the cutlass thread on reddit and responding.
Someone suggested the classic star wars clone wars dropship for some of the enter and exit areas. For inspiration .
https://www.reddit.com/user/Khunze
Xplatformer
Member
I need SQ42 released so we can all shoot the Vanduul. On the ground. With a pistol. AWESOME!
When a man with a pistol meets a vanduul with ... whatever he happens to be using, the man with a pistol will be a dead man.
Game is really shaping up nicely. Very impressive stuff.
With retractable hot tub apparently.
I dunno, in previous versions pistol could almost one shot ships xD
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Look at that radar, actually useful. Maybe they are learning.
Though I can't say I'm a fan of their recoil tied with vision there. Looks at best disorienting.
Think the recoil tied to vision event only occurs during ADS, which makes sense to me. Isn't that how most games do it?
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Mostly gun and muzzle moves but not the entire head. Thinking for VR (and if they have a TrackIR support like ARMA) having the head movement taken over with random movements looks like a bad idea.
Given that even strafing sideways on foot is liable to make people sick, widespread VR for on foot sections is unlikely.
Zalusithix
Member
Recoil in VR is handled by the weapon itself moving. It's not perfect, but combined with basic haptic feedback it can sell the illusion to certain extent. For example, here's recoil in H3VR. It'd be better with a peripheral with realistic feedback, but nothing like that is out yet.
Moving the head against the user's will is dangerous territory for VR if you want to avoid potential nausea and presence issues. This includes stopping the movement against the user's will. Noclip is basically par for the course in VR for this reason. It's one of the many reasons that tacking VR onto games designed for traditional screen play isn't straight forward or easy. VR requires a fundamentally different outlook in game design.
I have a feeling VR is going to be restricted to the cockpit, and when entering an animation or going into first person, it will turn into a virtual screen, eg:
This is if they are serious about getting VR implemented in the near future. The game just isn't designed with VR completely in mind, they'd have to redesign way too many systems.
kutthoat5150
Member
Ship weapons seem to be churning out at a fast rate, not so much fps weapons though as the newer concept art for them look way better then current designs
Zalusithix
Member
I have a feeling VR is going to be restricted to the cockpit, and when entering an animation or going into first person, it will turn into a virtual screen, eg:
This is if they are serious about getting VR implemented in the near future. The game just isn't designed with VR completely in mind, they'd have to redesign way too many systems.
As it is, even the cockpit will be a challenge. You think the MFDs are hard to read on a monitor? In VR they'll be totally useless without shoving your face up to them. Meanwhile the HUD will need revamping for VR as well. Ultimately, the changes needed will be dependent on gen 2 VR's capabilities though. This first gen of VR and SC aren't ever going to be a good match. That and they probably wont even occupy the same time frame anyhow. I fully expect gen 2 sets to be out by the time SC hits.
They're probably waiting on Star Marine.
You'll get the game right now, so alpha 2.5.0, all updates, but not the singleplayer campaign "Squadron 42". You need to buy the STAR CITIZEN + SQUADRON 42 COMBO package for that.
Xplatformer
Member
This.
If Star Citizen were limited to in ship space combat VR would probably be a strong push. There are too many elements to this game that will hinder full VR implementation.
I have a feeling VR is going to be restricted to the cockpit, and when entering an animation or going into first person, it will turn into a virtual screen, eg:
This is if they are serious about getting VR implemented in the near future. The game just isn't designed with VR completely in mind, they'd have to redesign way too many systems.
Personally, I hope there's at least an option to keep it VR'd all the way through for those of us who don't get sick.
Cool. Thanks man!
I can see them tackling VR in S42: Behind Enemy Lines, if VR will still be a thing 3 years from now.
If only we had someone working at F42 here to spill the beans ...
If only we had someone working at F42 here to spill the beans ...
New format 10ftC incoming.
I guess the non-weekly nature is just a consequence of how busy these guys are getting lately. But if the show is as big an improvement as AtV has been, I'm fine with it.
I guess the non-weekly nature is just a consequence of how busy these guys are getting lately. But if the show is as big an improvement as AtV has been, I'm fine with it.
Cabbagehead
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by picking better questions and formatting it so he can answer them without going saying to much...or having someone else their with him some times. Who knows. As long as he's not answering repeat questions.
By putting Sean Tracy in place of Chris ;p