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Disabled Father Killed by Police in Charlotte, NC (Protests Follow)

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And people wonder why blacks are terrified to interact with the police.

I'm so sick of this shit. At this point, there's more reason for us to fear police than there is reason for police to fear us. The guy was waiting for his daughter and ends up dead. Fucking pathetic.

I think I'm safer not calling the cops for anything. I'll take my chances with the burglar, "officer."

I don't even want to deal with them. I'm the first responder at my work for any alarms. I have to meet the police sometimes at 3am on a Sunday/Monday. Everytime in my head I say "This guy could kill me. Say I went for his gun. Plant some drugs in my car and find a mean looking picture on my facebook" and not a single fuck would be given around the country.

My father a retired Vietnam veteran with a purple heart among several other medals, twice when i was a kid he called them and both times he was treated like a villian with guns drawn. Once the officer actually put the gun to his chest. He's like "I called you fuckers". My dad's 5'9 and not imposing at all.
 
I don't even want to deal with them. I'm the first responder at my work for any alarms. I have to meet the police sometimes at 3am on a Sunday/Monday. Everytime in my head I say "This guy could kill me. Say I went for his gun. Plant some drugs in my car and find a mean looking picture on my facebook" and not a single fuck would be given around the country.

My father a retired Vietnam veteran with a purple heart among several other medals, twice when i was a kid he called them and both times he was treated like a villian with guns drawn. Once the officer actually put the gun to his chest. He's like "I called you fuckers". My dad's 5'9 and not imposing at all.


Yeah, it's fucking traumatizing. We shouldn't be afraid to call on the people sworn to protect us. It's insane. The biggest problem we face in this country is lack of empathy.

It's like, the train of thought of many people in this country goes something like this:

"News: A 22 year old man was shot to death while standing at a bus stop.

Non-minority: Wow, that's awful, such a shame.

News: The victim, 22 year old Dafron Brown, a black college student from Queens...

Non-minority: Black? It was probably gang related. He must have been a drug dealer. What was he doing on that bus stop anyway?"


It's like, a switch gets turned off when the victim is black. It then becomes a game of justifying why this black person is dead, and then comes the character assassination and the "he was no angel," as if that justifies why police are so fucking trigger happy. The whole point is that cops shouldn't be allowed to just shoot people to death. Period. It's one thing if they are legitimately in a situation where the suspect is actively trying to cause them bodily harm, but so many times have we learned, after the fact, that the suspect was unarmed, or that the suspect was facing the other direction, or fleeing, or just sitting in their car, yet they end up dead. It's disgusting and frustrating and terrifying.

Comply: BLAM. Four shots to the chest.
Flee: BLAM. Four shots to the back.
Mouth off: BLAM, Four shots to the chest.
Have a concealed weapons permit: BLAM. Four shots to the chest.

What recourse to minorities have?! We've been shot lying facedown on the ground, hands behind our head. We've been shot sitting in cars. We've been shot to death for complying. We've been shot to death for running away or being apprehensive about interacting with police. What can we possibly do against that? Nothing seems to keep us from being killed by police, and then the police pull the tried and true, "I feared for my life," or "He was coming right at me!"

I'm a short, light skinned black guy. That hasn't stopped me from being racially profiled by police, and called "nigger." It doesn't stop people from following me around the store, or clutching their purses a little tighter to their chest. It doesn't stop people from giving me and my wife dirty looks or whisper behind our backs because we're an interracial couple. I just want to live my life in peace like everybody else does, but this country is hell bent on treating me and my people like wild animals that need to be put down at the slightest provocation.

Bravo, America, your dehumanization of blacks is almost complete. I'm already preparing for "Black Hunting Season," to become an official thing. It already is as far as the police department is concerned. I'm not generally a cynical guy, but the past 10 years or so has really dampened my mood when it comes to race relations in this country.
 
What some Americans don't seem to understand is that it is the proliferation and easy access to guns that is a the heart of the quick trigger finger cops problem.

Yes there will still be racist murder cops but if they weren't all so afraid that every citizen is carrying a gun there would be much less deaths.

Solve one and you get half way to solving the other. I strongly believe this.

But the country doesn't seem to care much about solving either so I guess its all for naut.

The problem is that both the police unions and the NRA rely on republicans to give them the power to do as they feel. One will not turn on the other.
 
Open carry state and undercover cops. Once again he tried to be American exercising his rights and paid for it.
Yep.

If he really had a gun with an open carry permit, you are NOT supposed to have it in your hand when approached by the police. It's supposed to be locked into your holster. Not in your hands. This is a huge issue if the reports are true.

There were 3 body cams on the other officers + recording dash cams. Certainly something can be seen and/or proven.
1.) Brandishing is not the same as holding, waiving, pointing. Remember that.

2.) The root of the question is whether or not these officers in plain clothes properly identified themselves. To this man, he saw unidentified strangers approaching him. According to his brother, he got out of his car and they yelled "gun" and shot him. Could simply be that they saw the gun on his hip. What was or was not said by the men who created this situation in the first place is critical.
 
The problem is that both the police unions and the NRA rely on republicans to give them the power to do as they feel. One will not turn on the other.

well, it is not like many are calling for stricter gun laws anyway... it is heart of the issue but in the end, it does not get addressed because politicians don't want to lose votes.

Reading about it from Europe, open carry laws in some states are crazy... how is not everyone supposed to be afraid of people carrying weapons all around them.
 
Y'know I usually walk to chick fil a after work to grab a nice sandwich and like usually 4 or 5 cops are already there chatting or something. Before I nevery really thought about it that much but now, thanks to the recent news trend I sometimes sneek peeks at their guns as I wait for my meal and I cant help but wonder...

if I came in the store in my gray hoodie looking angry instead of my work uniform if they would think I'm a common hoodlum? Am I just one bad day away from getting shot for no reason?

And then I chomp on my delicious sandwich.


Ok. But for real, I think its terrible to even have to consider that the supposed protectors of the law can pounce on you at any time. Especially if you so much as exist at the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
1.) Brandishing is not the same as holding, waiving, pointing. Remember that.

No disrespect, man...but you need to double check the very definition of "brandish". It actually means exactly that. It has a bad connotation.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/brandish

"to wave or swing (something, such as a weapon) in a threatening or excited manner"

1
: to shake or wave (as a weapon) menacingly
2
: to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner

Did You Know?
Most of the time when we encounter the word brandish in print, it is followed by a word for a weapon, such as "knife" or "handgun." That’s appropriate given the word’s etymology: it derives via Middle English braundisshen from brant, braund, the Anglo-French word for "sword." Nowadays you can brandish things other than weapons, however. The figurative usage of brandish rose alongside its earliest literal usage in the 14th century. When you brandish something that isn’t a weapon (such as a sign), you are in effect waving it in someone’s face so that it cannot be overlooked."
 
Yeah, if police wont release the video, I will assume it's because they have something to hide.

No longer do I give police the benefit of the doubt.
 
Cop narrative doesnt make a lick of sense. The Police Chief cant confirm or deny if the deceased pointed his gun (if we assume he even had one) at officers yet he posed an immediate risk to the safety of his officers?

Why is a man who isnt even a criminal suspect getting out of his vehicle with a brandished firearm, re-entering, then getting out again & threatening officers with it? That seems bizarre & bizarre narratives require more than "he said" testimony.

I think these cops are full of shit. I think they fucked up in some way & are trying to fabricate one or more crucial events in this narrative.
 
What some Americans don't seem to understand is that it is the proliferation and easy access to guns that is a the heart of the quick trigger finger cops problem.

Yes there will still be racist murder cops but if they weren't all so afraid that every citizen is carrying a gun there would be much less deaths.

Solve one and you get half way to solving the other. I strongly believe this.

But the country doesn't seem to care much about solving either so I guess its all for naut.

No it isnt. American cops are perfectly capable of acting in a professional manner around armed White men. They are quick to shoot, taze or beat Black people because in their minds, Blacks are more dangerous & prone to violence. Especially large Black men.
Its White supremacy 101 (and Im not talking about overt White supremacist beliefs like with Klansmen or neo-Nazis.)
 
Yeah these are totally similar things.

You know the state sanctioned murder of reporters and people who criticize the government and the just plain doxing of people the government doesn't like in hopes that they will be driven out of their homes or killed in the streets.

Not a false equivalence at all.

I would say your heart is in the right place but I don't know what you stand to gain by trying to compare the two situations. In the US people want the laws to change to hold the police accountable while the other side of the arguement are basically saying cops deserve to kill whoever they feel like. Not sure what rock you're living under but we the public are not okay with what is happening.

I think you'll find that there a lot of Americans who are perfectly content with the status quo, or feel that police aren't doing quite enough in minority neighborhoods. That's kind of the problem. The police are a reflection of the American psyche. If everyone was outraged by this, we could easily fire all bad cops or institute laws limiting their discretion.
 
I can go with planting evidence, etc... but for the black cop to take the rap for the shooting and he wasn't even there until 15 mins later for a white cop who shot the guy?

Not buying that at all. No way another guy is taking that heat.

Yeah, that part seemed so off to me.

No way in hell does someone else take the blame in this day and age of cameras.
 
4 words for me.

I've lost the words to even express my thoughts regarding this stuff. It's sickening. Everything about it is sickening and it's hard to see this and not believe we're completely fucked...

I wonder why they didn't mention the book? The way they phrased it sounds like the cops actually found a gun on him
 
I still dunno how to feel. Never thought it would happen here in Charlotte. I'm honestly torn with this so close to home. I think in general I'm just angry at everyone. The shooting at the moment seems wrong but then I don't know the facts asking people on campus there is some confusion as to what's happened, who shot the guy and whether or not he had a gun. At the same time the rioting is very wrong. Why shut down parts of 85? Why trash and loot the Walmart? I just don't get it. I'm just disappointed in humanity at the moment. At the city.
 
Black cop will get the book thrown at him (to the fullest extent a cop can have the book pitched underhand to them), while the Tulsa white female cop will get that paid vacation 3-year-civil-trial-or-until-everyone-forgets hookup. Her GoFundMe be poppin yo!
 
Black cop will get the book thrown at him (to the fullest extent a cop can have the book pitched underhand to them), while the Tulsa white female cop will get that paid vacation 3-year-civil-trial-or-until-everyone-forgets hookup. Her GoFundMe be poppin yo!

Why are you so pessimistic for the black cop?

A number of black officers in the NYPD have wrongfully killed someone and got off with suspensions.
 
Jesus Christ. Unfortunately have become a bit numb to a lot, but dude was reading a book...
Shot for reading a book... Man what the hell.

Feeling absolutely livid and hopeless at the same time right now.

If it makes you feel better, the book was a lie.

The people who came up with the book story (the same ones who said the shooters were white undercover cops) weren't there. They came later. We now know for a fact that the shooter was black (wearing both a badge and police vest) and the other cops were in uniform.

It might help to spread some anger towards the people who see the need to lie in these situations.
 
I still dunno how to feel. Never thought it would happen here in Charlotte. I'm honestly torn with this so close to home. I think in general I'm just angry at everyone. The shooting at the moment seems wrong but then I don't know the facts asking people on campus there is some confusion as to what's happened, who shot the guy and whether or not he had a gun. At the same time the rioting is very wrong. Why shut down parts of 85? Why trash and loot the Walmart? I just don't get it. I'm just disappointed in humanity at the moment. At the city.

You don't get it because you don't live their experience. You don't know what it's like to grow up and live in the part of town that's reviled and used by the people who are supposed to protect them. You don't understand how a riot would start because you think this all came out of nowhere. Just like with every other part of the country where this has happened this is the natural result of a build up of emotions for a group of people that have been disenfranchised, not just a bit but for generations. Your state is the home of a silencing of the black vote, an obfuscation of the actions of public servants, and historical violations of the bodies of its most vulnerable citizens. You can't expect to burden citizens like that continually and say when they pop, "how did this happen". This is your state laid bare.
 
Why are you so pessimistic for the black cop?

A number of black officers in the NYPD have wrongfully killed someone and got off with suspensions.

adonis.jpg

The only person to face any repercussions in Eric Garner's death and she wasn't even one of the cops that physically killed him. If anyone is going to be made example of or sacrificed to public opinion it's going to be a black cop.
 
I still dunno how to feel. Never thought it would happen here in Charlotte. I'm honestly torn with this so close to home. I think in general I'm just angry at everyone. The shooting at the moment seems wrong but then I don't know the facts asking people on campus there is some confusion as to what's happened, who shot the guy and whether or not he had a gun. At the same time the rioting is very wrong. Why shut down parts of 85? Why trash and loot the Walmart? I just don't get it. I'm just disappointed in humanity at the moment. At the city.

Couple of issues with your posts I have. Rioting in response to continued injustices against your community isn't the same as those injustices. Let me make this clear, I do not condone rioting but I understand it. Rioting is a temper tantrum and I think MLK put it best where he said rioting "is the language of the unheard". These people are frustrated with the wrongs that continue to be done against them and their community so they are lashing out like this. It's not a good thing not at all but failing to see that it is a consequence of the many travesties we now daily witness is choosing to be blind.
 
You don't get it because you don't live their experience. You don't know what it's like to grow up and live in the part of town that's reviled and used by the people who are supposed to protect them. You don't understand how a riot would start because you think this all came out of nowhere. Just like with every other part of the country where this has happened this is the natural result of a build up of emotions for a group of people that have been disenfranchised, not just a bit but for generations. Your state is the home of a silencing of the black vote, an obfuscation of the actions of public servants, and historical violations of the bodies of its most vulnerable citizens. You can't expect to burden citizens like that continually and say when they pop, "how did this happen". This is your state laid bare.

I should mention I am African American and have lived in NC all my life (I'm 24). I know the experience, hell I experienced it today running errands. City is on edge, people gave me more sideways looks than usual. So yeah I understand how a riot could happen, but it's different to go to the Student Union and see the same people doing the peaceful protests, the same people that you've talked with for 6 years in different groups about how to change things from within and do things the right way on the news losing control in the street rioting and losing their collective cool. I know exactly why the rioting happened, I was angry too, more confused than anything that it happened here especially since the state has been going to shit recently. I know it's pent up anger and stress. My parents called me wondering if they'd see me on Fox back in Wilmington out there with everyone else. So yeah I get it I understand I guess it's just that I don't condone it. I didn't think it would go there in the University area.
 
The only person to face any repercussions in Eric Garner's death and she wasn't even one of the cops that physically killed him. If anyone is going to be made example of or sacrificed to public opinion it's going to be a black cop.

Srgt. Adonis faced no severe repercussions, no different than other officers. What are you talking about? She's been charged internally by the NYPD and placed on modified duty briefly. Her charge? "Failure to supervise". That was it. She's not going through court proceedings or anything like that. The chokehold cop had a charge too, for manslaughter which he was not indicted on.

And do we actually understand what "charged" means? It's a meaningless word. It's an accusation. You have not been found guilty of anything. You're just being accused of an act. Technically, yes, the supervisor failed to stop a raving lilliputian cop from jumping on top of a big guy and choking him up. But it's an internal charge, so there's no actual court prosecution to be had. She still has her job and her freedom.

Hardly throwing the "book" as the other poster mentioned.
 
Couple of issues with your posts I have. Rioting in response to continued injustices against your community isn't the same as those injustices. Let me make this clear, I do not condone rioting but I understand it. Rioting is a temper tantrum and I think MLK put it best where he said rioting "is the language of the unheard". These people are frustrated with the wrongs that continue to be done against them and their community so they are lashing out like this. It's not a good thing not at all but failing to see that it is a consequence of the many travesties we now daily witness is choosing to be blind.

I just don't get rioting at a Wal-Mart. Why aim the tantrum at a private business? What does Wal-Mart have to do with anything? Storm the police station, or riot in front of the mayor's house or something. Roll some police cars.
 
It's shit like this that makes me glad I'm an introvert and drive a car with tinted windows. Actually terrified if I get pulled over, probably be my last moments on earth.
 
Are any of you watching the video from Charlotte tonight? My local news started streaming it a while back and I've been sitting here watching. I heard what sounded like gunshots, then folks screamed. I figured it was tear gas, but then later it just broke on Fox News that someone has been shot right in the head dead on the side of the street, maybe more than one shot. This is pretty freakin' insane tonight.
 
Are any of you watching the video from Charlotte tonight? My local news started streaming it a while back and I've been sitting here watching. I heard what sounded like gunshots, then folks screamed. I figured it was tear gas, but then later it just broke on Fox News that someone has been shot right in the head dead on the side of the street, maybe more than one shot. This is pretty freakin' insane tonight.

The police shot a man in the head. Multiple people stated such and were interviewed.
 
Are any of you watching the video from Charlotte tonight? My local news started streaming it a while back and I've been sitting here watching. I heard what sounded like gunshots, then folks screamed. I figured it was tear gas, but then later it just broke on Fox News that someone has been shot right in the head dead on the side of the street, maybe more than one shot. This is pretty freakin' insane tonight.

Just saw on Twitter that police are firing rubber bullets.

AJ+ ‏@ajplus 8 minutes ago
BREAKING: Police use rubber bullets and tear gas during anti-police brutality protests in Charlotte, North Carolina after #KeithLamontScott.
 
Actually, looks like some drama is happening. I suggest following this Twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/katieperalta

Michael Graff ‏@michaelngraff 38 minutes ago Charlotte, NC
"Someone has been shot. Clear the area. We cannot guarantee your safety." -- what an officer at College and E. 4th just said. #cmpd

Charlotte Observer ‏@theobserver 30 minutes ago
BREAKING: Medic is treating a patient to CMC Main with life-threatening injuries from an apparent gunshot wound.
 
Are any of you watching the video from Charlotte tonight? My local news started streaming it a while back and I've been sitting here watching. I heard what sounded like gunshots, then folks screamed. I figured it was tear gas, but then later it just broke on Fox News that someone has been shot right in the head dead on the side of the street, maybe more than one shot. This is pretty freakin' insane tonight.

What the fuck.
 
CNN reporter totally just hit with tear gas. Had to stop talking and put down the camera.

Edit: and one CNN reporter was just assaulted looks like. Somebody threw something and he went down.
 
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