gamechanger87
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Eyewitness accounts from protesters claiming that officers fired at them should never be believed. In the video above they were all standing there with batons. No weapons.
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Disabled Father Killed by Police in Charlotte, NC (Protests Follow)
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Eyewitness accounts from protesters claiming that officers fired at them should never be believed. In the video above they were all standing there with batons. No weapons.
7DollarHagane
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It's really the cops fault for not having a Reinhardt on their team. Always need a Reinhardt.
The cops may be in the wrong. The civilian may be in the wrong. An investigation needs to be done and done by an independent organization that the public can trust. That's the only way for this to get better.
Jumping to defend the police or immediately blaming the police, either way is wrong.
The police shouldn't shoot immediately, but if someone ignores their commands repeatedly and then has a weapon and makes any movements they're not going to hesitate, and they shouldn't.
I really don't understand why they don't communicate with a suspect from a safe position and only engage once they have their hands up or are laying prone.
gamechanger87
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This is where the back tracking begins. Her story will change as information comes out and the protests will continue no matter what. Didn't she originally say that he was shot in the car while reading? Photos show him far away from the car with potentially a gun nearby.
So, in an open carry state, police should be super jumpy and trigger happy and shoot at anyone who has a gun that makes "any movement"? I'm tired of people trying to justify deadly force. There are so many other ways that these situations could be handled, deadly force is so fucking rarely necessary.
After so so so so so many cases of cops lying and creating false reports after murdering a black man, how the fuck can anyone believe anything they say? And then defend them based on those accounts???
Whatever story the police released can not be trusted, plain and simple.
EDIT: Shit, sorry for the dp, should've just edited my above post.
Whatever story the police released can not be trusted, plain and simple.
EDIT: Shit, sorry for the dp, should've just edited my above post.
MidgarBlowedUp
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I do not understand this. The local media, what i heard on the radio this morning, has not described the scenario I'm reading posted in the op. All I'm getting is that he was shot by a black police officer for not putting down his gun. The news here claims he was told multiple times to drop his weapon. No other details are given from the radio station I was listening to. They went straight to discussing the riots. 3 people shot, 2 civilians and one officer.
The mayor of charlotte wants the video released but that will not be easy since McRory made that illegal unless the police chief ultimately allows it. The family may need to sue to get it released.
The local news here is very pro police and pro government. They will flat out lie about shit constantly.
The mayor of charlotte wants the video released but that will not be easy since McRory made that illegal unless the police chief ultimately allows it. The family may need to sue to get it released.
The local news here is very pro police and pro government. They will flat out lie about shit constantly.
She has said about the planted gun from the start.
MidgarBlowedUp
Member
This is probably why the local news makes no sense right now. They don't know, they just want people to tune in. Yesterday they were acting like we would all be without gas and this huge price hike was going tob devastating. Its like litteraly only went up 20 cents
gamechanger87
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Ah I only saw her claim that he was shot in his car while reading a book.
So the police ran out and threw a gun in the street near the guy in broad daylight and dragged his body out of the car and down the road?
Unfortunately, as far fetched as it is you can't say its impossible. Like with the news breaking of the cops planting a gun to excuse them using with an unauthorized ak while on the job
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_e0530fba-5db7-500e-9b31-3dd4512fe5bc.html
Thats what happens when there's no blowback for lying on police reports. Id like to believe the cops but history has shown they go into pure PR and denial mode when things like this pops up
They have to release it before October 1st. After that, they'd need Judicial approval (or something like that) to do so. So if it's not shown before then, it's 100% on Charlotte (or CMPD) for not doing so.
Dreams-Visions
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and his brother said he had one from the start (and that he received no warnings before they opened fire).
Yeah, why I am waiting for info on that part. Still think his death wasn't needed though.
Grover Cleveland
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It looks like a lot of businesses got hit unfortunately. I imagine that Uptown Charlotte looks like a very different place this morning than it did 24 hours ago.
My heart hurts for all of the businesses and innocent people that were hurt over the past two nights and my heart hurts for the city. It's been in the national news for all the wrong reasons over the past few months and this only serves to paint it in a worse light.
But my heart hurts more for Keith Lamont Scott's family, Jonathan Ferell's family, the family of the protestor who is in critical condition, and for a black community that very obviously does not have equal protection under the law.
We don't know all the facts of the Scott shooting, we probably never will. But any loss of life is tragic, no matter the circumstances. The fact of the matter is, even if the shooting was "justified", that doesn't change the fact that the black community has very real, very legitimate grievances to air with the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department and people should not let the acts of a few vandals and low-life looters distract from the message. There were plenty of peaceful protests in this city and all over the state but this
gets more eyeballs, so this
is what the media runs with.
Don't get it twisted, last night isn't just the result of the Scott shooting and tensions between the Charlotte black community and CMPD didn't just start Tuesday. Last night was the conclusion of years of dissatisfaction and anger finally reaching their breaking point.
Not suspicious at all!
Grover Cleveland
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Mayor-Police Chief Joint Press Conference going on:
The police will show the video to the family but will not release the video to the general public, citing that it will jeopardize their internal investigation.
Curfew on the cards but has not been put in place yet
EDIT: Chief Putney is not handling the national/international news media...well
The police will show the video to the family but will not release the video to the general public, citing that it will jeopardize their internal investigation.
Curfew on the cards but has not been put in place yet
EDIT: Chief Putney is not handling the national/international news media...well
Randolph Freelander
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NBC is reporting the shooting victim from last night has died.
There are people who still think Michael Brown was shot with his hands up.
You can create a reality of whatever you want to believe. Don't like what the news is saying? Just find a news site that fits your viewpoint.
Randolph Freelander
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^
Saw pics of the NASCAR HOF, just some broken windows, including one small one along the display of cars. Not really "looted" the way some sites are reporting it, seems like the Buffalo Wild Wings suffered the brunt of the damage. Thankfully none of the exhibits were affected, windows can be replaced, some of the stuff in the museum not so much.
TumblingHippo
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In the context of everything going on and black citizens scared for their lives and futures, this post is kinda funny. Please understand I saw it as "thank goodness none of these priceless white people monuments were damaged!"
Yeah I don't think there's a way to word it where it doesn't sound funny or ironic or whatever, not trying to make it seem like I care more about it than the life of Keith Scott. I just think the artifacts contained within the HOF are a different situation than stuff that's easily replaceable in BWW or CVS or even the Hornets Team Store. Wouldn't like to see any museum lose artifacts to riots honestly.
Emperor_Uriel
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I'm still not really clear on the whole "let's trash our own city" element that always creeps into these protests. Kind of a "cutting off your nose to spite your face" approach.
Wouldn't it be better to peacefully disrupt the workings of city hall? Protest outside of the homes of government officials? Hell, going to a rich neighborhood and knocking over their mailboxes would make more sense than burning down your own pharmacies and restaurants, some of which might employ/be owned by your fellow protesters.
Then again, I guess the argument is that the violent folks are never from the area, so they can trash shit without those concerns.
Wouldn't it be better to peacefully disrupt the workings of city hall? Protest outside of the homes of government officials? Hell, going to a rich neighborhood and knocking over their mailboxes would make more sense than burning down your own pharmacies and restaurants, some of which might employ/be owned by your fellow protesters.
Then again, I guess the argument is that the violent folks are never from the area, so they can trash shit without those concerns.
FreedomFighter
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I believe the woman who says it wasn't the Black cop but the white cop who shot this man. And I believe they're lying about the book not being present.
I really beginning to believe the police are running out the clock to October 1st, when the "no body cam footage released to the public" law goes into effect.
Every minute that goes by without a release of this video... I become more and more convinced.
I really beginning to believe the police are running out the clock to October 1st, when the "no body cam footage released to the public" law goes into effect.
Every minute that goes by without a release of this video... I become more and more convinced.
Jmanunknown
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Its out of frustration and anger. If you want an example of why people lash out in anger look no further than this https://www.justice.gov/sites/defau...03/04/ferguson_police_department_report_1.pdf
damn shame. rip.
Randolph Freelander
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Congressman Robert Pittenger, who represents part of Charlotte (guess which part), went on BBC and said this:
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/po...-the-dome/article103536037.html#storylink=cpy
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/po...-the-dome/article103536037.html#storylink=cpy
Randolph Freelander
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
In the back, again.
Holly shit.
Shit like this makes me cry. I have no hope for this country.
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
This. Police deserve no benefit of the doubt at this point.
Dubbedinenglish
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That chief has been in front of the cameras how many times? Still isn't telling the truth.
Chie Satonaka
Member
Un-fucking believable.
Every time I think these people can't get any lower, they manage to surprise me.
There is no bottom.
Ryzaki009
Member
I wish I could say I'm surprised but that'd be a lie.
these are the same bastards that tried to politically disenfranchise the black population of the state by enacting voter id laws to specifically target their voting habits.
Gotdatmoney
Member
What a trash human being.
Randolph Freelander
Member
Someone tell Pittenger there's a lot of white people (who have to be on welfare and hate themselves, apparently) in the protest crowd tonight.
Edit: Family attorney on CNN right now.
Edit: Family attorney on CNN right now.
Captin Quacker
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oh it's ok folks he apologized
Chie Satonaka
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"That answer doesn't reflect who I am."
"That's not who I am."
It's always the same fucking shit. What happened? Were you momentarily possessed by a racist ghost?
It's exactly who the fuck you are. Nobody would even SAY some shit like that if they hadn't thought it.
"That's not who I am."
It's always the same fucking shit. What happened? Were you momentarily possessed by a racist ghost?
It's exactly who the fuck you are. Nobody would even SAY some shit like that if they hadn't thought it.
Randolph Freelander
Member
College roomie is on CNN again.
Dude kept me up all night to study for a sociology exam one time. Never again.
Dude kept me up all night to study for a sociology exam one time. Never again.
(Got a A, though.)
EdibleKnife
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It's why I haven't really been commenting on the police information. I don't trust them any more. I can't. I don't know how people can after these past several years.
oh it's ok folks he apologized
Dude needs to fuck off. I don't accept his apology. That kind of sick mentality isn't something that's scrubbed away in a few hours. I don't doubt he still feels the exact same way. Fuck him.
If he really means this apology he should resign his position immediatelyoh it's ok folks he apologized
Dubbedinenglish
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Like how hard is it to give a neutral response? He could say "we are following protocol and reviewing the footage and accounts to see if any charges are warranted"
No he has to call on the silent people to back his officers up, that their version is absolutely correct. Every time, real tired of this.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
All this rioting may well get persuadable people running into the open arms of Trump, who is there just waiting with a smile on his face. That is a scary proposition.
EdibleKnife
Member
You don't think he's fit to represent the people of Charlotte after that outburst? Can't we give him another chance?!
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