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Disabled Father Killed by Police in Charlotte, NC (Protests Follow)

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It's pretty obvious the video isn't good enough to back up their story otherwise they would've put it out. It has nothing to do with the law or their bullshit promise of transparency.
 
Regarding the video. Does the family still want it released after seeing it? Having the death of a loved one out there for everyone to see can't be easy. I am totally OK with the families lawyer giving his overview after seeing and leaving it at that.

And if they want it released, I think its their decision and no one else's.
 
Regarding the video. Does the family still want it released after seeing it? Having the death of a loved one out there for everyone to see can't be easy. I am totally OK with the families lawyer giving his overview after seeing and leaving it at that.

And if they want it released, I think its their decision and no one else's.

Yes, they have said via their attorney that they want the video released to the public.
 
Absolute bullshit. Release that fucking footage. Crooked ass cops. Protests need to continue indefinitely until they release that shit.
 
So violent

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So unruly

 
It's pretty obvious the video isn't good enough to back up their story otherwise they would've put it out. It has nothing to do with the law of their bullshit promise of transparency.

Exactly right. If the video proved their side of the story, they would want it out there as soon as possible to say "Hey, we didn't fuck up!"
 
Chief just got finished speaking. Recap:

On shooting Wednesday night at the protest:
-Investigation was quick
-Used various video that was available
-Excellent detective work
-Identified suspect, established probable cause, and made an arrest.

On shooting of Mr. Scott:
-Video doesn't always tell the whole story
-This will be a long, painstaking process
 
Chier Putney states that the video has been turned over to the State Bureau of Investigation and CMPD's part in that investigation is over.

So they are going to hide behind bureaucracy to avoid releasing the video
 
So violent

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So unruly

yeah last night was cool

doubly so because I thought shit was surely gonna go down once they were out past the curfew but the protesters, police, and national guard did a great job all around. I'm not sure how late they were out but I saw them marching at 12:45am so that was good that they were allowed to continue. over the past few days I've heard a lot of great dialogues between the citizens of charlotte and members of the police as well as citizens of different races and backgrounds. saw a lot of solidarity last night. heard some interviews where white people were straight up just like, hey I'm here for my black brothers and sisters and I'm going to be out here as long as they are. we've got a long way to go still but I'm hopeful.
 
Chief just got finished speaking. Recap:

On shooting Wednesday night at the protest:
-Investigation was quick
-Used various video that was available
-Excellent detective work
-Identified suspect, established probable cause, and made an arrest.

On shooting of Mr. Scott:
-Video doesn't always tell the whole story
-This will be a long, painstaking, process

thanks for the summary.

I assume that he feels the video could lead to conclusions being drawn that are unfavorable to his department. They said he was "brandishing" a firearm, but the Chief stopped short of saying he was pointing it or that he even had it in his hand. Was it on his hip in a holster or otherwise not posing an immediate threat in an open carry state? Did the officers identify themselves proper or not?
 
yeah last night was cool

doubly so because I thought shit was surely gonna go down once they were out past the curfew but the protesters, police, and national guard did a great job all around. I'm not sure how late they were out but I saw them marching at 12:45am so that was good that they were allowed to continue. over the past few days I've heard a lot of great dialogues between the citizens of charlotte and members of the police as well as citizens of different races and backgrounds. saw a lot of solidarity last night. heard some interviews where white people were straight up just like, hey I'm here for my black brothers and sisters and I'm going to be out here as long as they are. we've got a long way to go still but I'm hopeful.
This is the sort of thing that makes me wish more GAF members had direct experience with being in a protest.
 
Chief just got finished speaking. Recap:

On shooting Wednesday night at the protest:
-Investigation was quick
-Used various video that was available

-Excellent detective work
-Identified suspect, established probable cause, and made an arrest.

On shooting of Mr. Scott:
-Video doesn't always tell the whole story
-This will be a long, painstaking, process

Bwahahaha!
 
Chief just got finished speaking. Recap:

On shooting Wednesday night at the protest:
-Investigation was quick
-Used various video that was available
-Excellent detective work
-Identified suspect, established probable cause, and made an arrest.

On shooting of Mr. Scott:
-Video doesn't always tell the whole story
-This will be a long, painstaking, process

I mean it really can't get more blatant than that right? Justice is served pretty quickly when a cop isn't involved.
 
Same. It would make a lot less idiots coming into the threads explaining MLK and Ghandi and saying protest somewhere quieter.
You and I both know those people don't give a shit about facts or even the cause being protested. Going would inform them which is not what they wamt.
 
The way that Putney is talking, he's implying that the video would make things worse not better.

Which means that...it's probably not that supportive of the police's claim.

The problem with using that as a justification is that people want transparency more than anything. Just look at Tulsa.
 
I mean it really can't get more blatant than that right? Justice is served pretty quickly when a cop isn't involved.

I'm about 99% sure the video doesn't make the cops look good. But the process for internal discipline is far longer. It just is. Especially when the video isn't irrefutable (perhaps partially obscured or some such).

The way that Putney is talking, he's impying that the video would make things worse not better.

Which means that...it probably not that supportive of the police's claim.

The problem with using that as a justification is that people want transparency more than anything. Just look at Tulsa.

My suspicion is that the gentlemen did not have a gun in a threatening position (maybe holstered, maybe in pocket but visible, maybe no gun at all) and the officers did not properly identify themselves before shouting, "gun!" and shooting him.
 
Regarding the video. Does the family still want it released after seeing it? Having the death of a loved one out there for everyone to see can't be easy. I am totally OK with the families lawyer giving his overview after seeing and leaving it at that.

And if they want it released, I think its their decision and no one else's.
It's not easy, but they want it released.

Reminds me of Emmitt Till's mother wanting to keep the casket open during his funeral to show everyone what they did to her baby boy. Same thing here.
 
I forgot who it was, but it was on Comedy Central where a comedian went to interview cops and they just brush off every violent incident in other precients as civilians trying to overly incite a problem that was completely fake. Cops don't intentionally try to hurt anyone they say...
 
I forgot who it was, but it was on Comedy Central where a comedian went to interview cops and they just brush off every violent incident in other precients as civilians trying to overly incite a problem that was completely fake. Cops don't intentionally try to hurt anyone they say...

You mean Jeff Ross? He had a special where he "roasted" cops recently.
 
Yeah, it was video shot by the victim's wife. I... haven't seen it. Gonna be an interesting afternoon
 
While incredibly unsettling, that video doesn't really show much of anything we didn't already know.

It begs the question of what Scott's wife was telling him not to do.

She definitely says he doesn't have a gun tho
 
link to this new video? I really hate to see black death on film but considering the way the PD has been acting in regards to this it's important for me to watch this video
 
looks like the officer pulled black latex gloves out of his pocket to touch the body. and dropped one or two in the process.

way too "floppy" to be a gun.

but the video is super blurry.
 
looks like the officer pulled black latex gloves out of his pocket to touch the body. and dropped one or two in the process.

way too "floppy" to be a gun.

but the video is super blurry.

I'm not seeing anything that looks like a gun in the video.
 
While incredibly unsettling, that video doesn't really show much of anything we didn't already know.

It begs the question of what Scott's wife was telling him not to do.

She definitely says he doesn't have a gun tho
From the conversation, it seems like she didn't want him to make them break the window or hurt him. She didn't want him to resist getting out of the car. But I haven't listened; maybe she was talking to the officer.


Edit: I think she was telling the cops not to shoot him while simultaneously telling them her husband was disabled and to get out of the car.
 
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