It's kind of a shame that Trump's campaign has to end like this...

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Supporters and Republican diehards will blame his loss on a "Gotcha" scandal from 10 years ago rather than Trump's terrible policies and positions. "Oh if only some disreputable person hadn't secretly recorded him long ago, he would definitely be president now! If someone had saved those Clinton emails she would have lost bigly!" Now there's a convenient excuse for an election loss that was probably inevitable anyway.

As much as I'm glad to see his house of cards come crumbling down, I wish that people could see it as a steadfast repudiation of his values rather than a reaction to him being a terrible sexist, racist scumbag. At this point there's almost no chance for Trump to wash off the stink of his deplorable comments, so in the future this loss will be chalked up to poor discipline rather than egregious policy.
 
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Supporters and Republican diehards will blame his loss on a "Gotcha" scandal from 10 years ago rather than Trump's terrible policies and positions. "Oh if only some disreputable person hadn't secretly recorded him long ago, he would definitely be president now! If someone had saved those Clinton emails she would have lost bigly!" Now there's a convenient excuse for an election loss that was probably inevitable anyway.

As much as I'm glad to see his house of cards come crumbling down, I wish that people could see it as a steadfast repudiation of his values rather than a reaction to him being a terrible sexist, racist scumbag. At this point there's almost no chance for Trump to wash off the stink of his deplorable comments, so in the future this loss will be chalked up to poor discipline rather than egregious policy.
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His values are what led him to be a terrible sexist, racist scumbag. I don't see any downside here.
 
When the country is months away from tipping into full blown fascism, I'll take what I can get, thank you.
 
It isn't like he was doing well before the recording got out and there's still a month left. This isn't even the final nail in the coffin.
 
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Supporters and Republican diehards will blame his loss on a "Gotcha" scandal from 10 years ago rather than Trump's terrible policies and positions. "Oh if only some disreputable person hadn't secretly recorded him long ago, he would definitely be president now! If someone had saved those Clinton emails she would have lost bigly!" Now there's a convenient excuse for an election loss that was probably inevitable anyway.

As much as I'm glad to see his house of cards come crumbling down, I wish that people could see it as a steadfast repudiation of his values rather than a reaction to him being a terrible sexist, racist scumbag. At this point there's almost no chance for Trump to wash off the stink of his deplorable comments, so in the future this loss will be chalked up to poor discipline rather than egregious policy.
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If this is the case I'm glad. It means the Republicans will be too stupid/in denial to really understand why they lost and will just double down in 2020 and beyond, and continue to lose.
 
I'll take what I can get, but yeah. This being the straw that broke the camels back is confusing and its DISGUSTING seeing Republicans trying to distance themselves from this when it was stoked and supported.
 
The longer the Republicans continue to pursue their current platform, the longer they'll be demographically locked out of the White House.

If they don't learn any lessons from Donald Trump, all the better for the rest of us.
 
Who cares about what some idiot might say in a decade as long as Trump goes down hard?

Sure, I might feel less like drinking if the American people came to a reasonable, conscious decision to keep him out of the White House based on his horrible judgement and policies...but if this is what gets it done, I'll take it.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
If this is the case I'm glad. It means the Republicans will be too stupid/in denial to really understand why they lost and will just double down in 2020 and beyond, and continue to lose.
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Rats Off To Ya said:
The longer the Republicans continue to pursue their current platform, the longer they'll be demographically locked out of the White House.

If they don't learn any lessons from Donald Trump, all the better for the rest of us.
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Yup, let them rot.
 
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Whatever it takes. And yes, he lost because of his lack of discipline rather than his policy. Does he even have a policy? Not that it matters now
 
Policies? I think you meant to say catchphrases. And the next debate is less than 48 hours away, so I wouldn't lament about not having a proper takedown just yet.
 
If you seriously thought that there was any way whatsoever that Republican's wouldn't have found an excuse to deflect their failure of an campaign on, you haven't been paying attention.
 
Jobbs said:
Why would this matter to his supporters if nothing else he has said has mattered?
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His supporters aren't the main problem, as he doesn't have enough of those to win an election. Undecideds are the key factor, and this is going to decimate any chances of getting those to vote for him.
 
This will definitely not end the campaign. The story itself isn't that much different than a previous story the NYTimes reported:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html

But the combination of Trump losing almost a billion dollars in a strong economy, poor debate performance, and whatever other controversies he's drug up this week (didn't he tell people to watch a sex tape?) are definitely not helping him. If he somehow has a bigly performance during the debate(s), and there's a leak that seriously damages Clinton, he could theoretically rebound. Thankfully his chances of winning are slim at this point, but his campaign is definitely not over yet.

MCN said:
His supporters aren't the main problem, as he doesn't have enough of those to win an election. Undecideds are the key factor, and this is going to decimate any chances of getting those to vote for him.
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I just don't see why this would be the thing he said that pushed undecideds away from him. Like, I don't think it even ranks in his top 10 most disgusting.
 
Rats Off To Ya said:
The longer the Republicans continue to pursue their current platform, the longer they'll be demographically locked out of the White House.

If they don't learn any lessons from Donald Trump, all the better for the rest of us.
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This. Let them keep digging in the "no true Scotsman" well
 
As someone from from the outside of the US, I honestly don't get why this is any worse than any of the other awful things he's done, but if it's stops him from having the opportunity to screw up the international community any more than it currently is, then I am thankful, we don't need a moron in change of one of the most important countries in the world after all.

I just worry that this might seem like a killing blow to sane people, stopping some sane people from bothering to vote. While at the same time, Trump voters might not give a crap, and vote as they initially intended to. Ya know? He's done plenty already, and he was still a threat, so, why now? Did he reach some sort of limit?

There seemed to be actual (non-dumb-youtube-conspiracy) evidence that he was in some way tied to the Russians.... that didn't seem to matter, why this? I just don't understand.
 
MCN said:
His supporters aren't the main problem, as he doesn't have enough of those to win an election. Undecideds are the key factor, and this is going to decimate any chances of getting those to vote for him.
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Same question. Why would this matter to undecideds if nothing else has?

His campaign is already a farce, he's already said things so monstrously offensive and beyond the pale that conventional wisdom says he should have been buried a long long time ago. I don't understand why some sexist comments from someone who's already a known sexist and a racist and a liar and a know nothing and a blow hard would suddenly be the deciding factor.
 
GrizzNKev said:
After everything else, you think THIS is going to end him?

haaaaaaaahahahahahahha
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I don't think that it will outright end him. But isn't this the first time that he actually had to apologise? If anything, that apology will hurt his I-am-all-balls-and-don't-give-a-fuck persona. At least a little.
 
JoeyJungle said:
This will definitely not end the campaign. The story itself isn't that much different than a previous story the NYTimes reported:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html

But the combination of Trump losing almost a billion dollars in a strong economy, poor debate performance, and whatever other controversies he's drug up this week (didn't he tell people to watch a sex tape?) are definitely not helping him. If he somehow has a bigly performance during the debate(s), and there's a leak that seriously damages Clinton, he could theoretically rebound. Thankfully his chances of winning are slim at this point, but his campaign is definitely not over yet.
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Difference is those were not caught on tape. This was. He won't suspend his campaign, but the election ended today.
 
ElTorro said:
I don't think that it will outright end him. But isn't this the first time that he actually had to apologise? If anything, that apology will hurt his I-am-all-balls-and-don't-give-a-fuck persona. At least a little.
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I think this is like his fifth non-apology apology. He had one after the abortion position flippity floppities, and another a few weeks ago after one of his rally for his black supporters in white neighborhoods.

mjp2417 said:
Difference is those were not caught on tape. This was. He won't suspend his campaign, but the election ended today.
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Yes, this is much worse than the videos of him talking about wanting to fuck his daughter /s
 
Dude, EVERY SINGLE ELECTION has some sort of historic moment in October that sways the election.

Romney 2012: 47%
McCain 2008: "The foundations of our economy are strong."
Kerry 2004: Obsessed with using Cheney's lesbian daughter as a political prop.
Gore 2000: Poor debate stagecraft, including sighing passively and getting awkwardly close to Bush during the debates.
Dole 1996: Fell off a fucking stage at 73.
H.W. Bush 1992: Kept looking at his watch during a debate.

Even Trump's election-ending moment is way yuuuuuuuuuger than the others.
 
mjp2417 said:
Difference is those were not caught on tape. This was. He won't suspend his campaign, but the election ended today.
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In the battle over optics, possibly. But by that metric, I feel that Hillary buckling over at the 9/11 memorial, of all places, was worse optics.
 
I want to see his business destroyed after the election.

I want to enjoy looking at Jr's eyes as he slowly realizes his inheritance will be a couple of Subway Coupons

But as it is,It's enough for the world
 
eBay Huckster said:
he was already about to lose by 5-7% before this, so
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That's the most amazing thing in this election. That orange thing is only down by 5-7%? How is that even possible? That doesn't speak too highly of the American population. Or half of it.

Do people just vote for their party no matter what? We don't have a two party system here, and I think people vote for different parties at different times depending on the person running for office. It just seems like people root for the republican/democratic party like they were sports teams or something.
 
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