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[Chris1964]

3DS software (Jul-Sep 2016)

Pokémon Omega Ruby / Alpha Sapphire - 0,94m / 13,18m (+135,00%)
Pokémon X / Y - 0,66m / 15,64m (+135,71%)
Mario Kart 7 - 0,38m / 13,94m (+26,67%)
Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 0,22m / 10,34m (+100,00%)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - 0,22m / 4,52m (-15,38%)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 0,21m / 10,60m (+50,00%)
Tomodachi Life - 0,21m / 5,30m (+90,91%)
Super Mario 3D Land - 0,17m / 10,98m (+112,50%)
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon - 0,15m / 5,03m (+150,00%)
Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS - 0,12m / 8,35m (+9,09%)


Wii U software (Jul-Sep 2016)

Mario Kart 8 - 0,30m / 8,00m (+50,00%)
Super Mario 3D World - 0,18m / 5,19m (-5,26%)
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD - 0,16m / 1,98m (+60,00%)
Splatoon - 0,14m / 4,57m (-6,67%)
Mario Party 10 - 0,13m / 1,94m (+160,00%)
New Super Mario Bros. U - 0,11m / 5,45m (-26,67%)
New Super Luigi U - 0,10m / 2,74m (-33,33%)
Super Smash Bros. for Wii U - 0,09m / 4,99m (-10,00%)
Super Mario Maker - 0,08m / 3,73m (-38,46%)
Nintendo Land - 0,03m / 5,13m (+0,00%)

 

[KillerMan91]

Yeah. Nintendo really needs Switch to be success. 3DS being up yoy is impressive as long as you don't look at revenue (firesales of 2DS).

 

[Milly Osworth]

The Switch better switch around the business of Nintendo. It looks so bad.

 

[ggx2ac]

https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/791237857243373568

Oh, also Nintendo chief suggessted there would be some occasions that consumers can actually test play Switch before launch. Good!

That's pretty much a given. They had people test out the 3DS before it launched too.

 

[MacTag]

3DS on the cusp of outselling NES.

Yeah. Nintendo really needs Switch to be success. 3DS being up yoy is impressive as long as you don't look at revenue (firesales of 2DS).

Most units sold were n3DSXL, which is over twice the price of 2DS.

 

[test_account]

38,305bn yen. it would have been negative without the extraordinary gain from the sale of the baseball club, which yielded 62,771bn yen (before taxes).

Thanks

 

[gogogow]

Because software sales don't scale linearly with hardware sales.

Uh...yeah, that's what I was saying. But when a software sells well, it's suddenly, "well because people buy Nintendo hw to play Nintendo sw". There's a lot of factors involved, but people just likes to casually dismisses anything positive. MK8 sold really well on such a tiny userbase! Well, because they only buy Nintendo sw, duh!

 

[oti]

Mario Kart 8 selling 8 million on a 13 million install base is fantastic. Well deserved for one if the best (if not the best) game in the series ever. My favorite Wii U game by far

It's the best Mario Kart. I get some people liked two items from DD (and they seem to be coming back) and I get nostalgia for Super Mario Kart but come on people, it's the best. That's why starting from scratch for Mario Kart Switch is unnecessary. The graphics are amazing, the music is outstanding, the tracks are great. Just add more DLC, more characters, a good Battle Mode and what I'd like to see is some kind of "serious" eSports mode. Something to get that crowd.

 

[BGBW]

I find it fascinating how Kirby is actually a way more lucrative and successful series than Metroid.

Metroid has never been one of the big names. Fans have all over estimated its importance.

 

[KillerMan91]

3DS on the cusp of outselling NES.


Most units sold were n3DSXL, which is over twice the price of 2DS.

Yoy increase was because of 2DS. Other 3DS models were down yoy if you combine them.

 

[Shiggy]

It's the best Mario Kart. I get some people liked two items from DD (and they seem to be coming back) and I get nostalgia for Super Mario Kart but come on people, it's the best. That's why starting from scratch for Mario Kart Switch is unnecessary. The graphics are amazing, the music is outstanding, the tracks are great. Just add more DLC, more characters, a good Battle Mode and what I'd like to see is some kind of "serious" eSports mode. Something to get that crowd.

It's one of the worst Mario Kart games. Can't you just admit that?

Spoiler

I don't want to buy a Wii U and cannot wait for the Switch version.

 

[ar4757]

Updated software shipments. Pokemon XY is at 15.64 million, above Black and White. ORAS is at 13.18 million, well above HGSS.

And both were respectively a bit worse than the prior installment. And that's as a huge Hoenn fan. C'mon gamefreak step it up

 

[Alrus]

I'm really surprised ORAS managed to outsell HGSS tbh, I wonder how that happened. I always was under the assumption that the orignal R/S wasn't nearly as beloved as G/S.

Way less accessible piracy on the 3DS compared to the DS?

Also Mario Party 10 managing close to 2 millions copies shipped is absolutely insane to me.

 

[Ushojax]

Devilish Brain Training refuses to go away. 4 years and counting...

 

[Zedark]

And both were respectively a bit worse than the prior installment. And that's as a huge Hoenn fan. C'mon gamefreak step it up

Actually, X/Y is up 20k copies as compared to White/Black.

Sun/Moon looks really cool, perhaps that may sell better (like, noticeably) this time? The momentum at least is there with Pokémon Go.

Edit: Ah, sorry, were you talking quality?

 

[nerdbot]

Eight of the top ten games have Mario in it or are Mario related.

The pedant in me is urging me to point out that Mario is not in New Super Luigi U at all (just his hat)

 

[JoeM86]

Actually, X/Y is up 20k copies as compared to White/Black.

Sun/Moon looks really cool, perhaps that may sell better (like, noticeably) this time? The momentum at least is there with Pokémon Go.

I think ar4757 is talking about quality.

I'd dispute that if I had time

 

[MacTag]

Yoy increase was because of 2DS. Other 3DS models were down yoy if you combine them.

Sure, 2DS got a whopping $20 price drop (lolfiresale) and it's Japanese launch. n3DSXL still sold almost twice as much as 2DS and also actually increased yoy, which is crazy given it launched just last year in the west. Firesales isn't what's driving 3DS sales.

 

[MicH]

It's the best Mario Kart. I get some people liked two items from DD (and they seem to be coming back) and I get nostalgia for Super Mario Kart but come on people, it's the best. That's why starting from scratch for Mario Kart Switch is unnecessary. The graphics are amazing, the music is outstanding, the tracks are great. Just add more DLC, more characters, a good Battle Mode and what I'd like to see is some kind of "serious" eSports mode. Something to get that crowd.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's the best game in the series too. You can really tell they put a lot more effort into it than what they usually do: amazingly gorgeous visuals, beautifully orchestrated music and the DLC is great too.

I hope we get a better character roster and of course a much better Battle Mode in the Switch version. Add even more new tracks and I won't need a new MK in a long time

 

[Bubba_Sparks]

Man, everywhere you look hardware sales are really low! Compared to six or seven years ago, hardware sales have fallen through the floor in the US. I don't know about how things are going in Europe, so I can't say it's a worldwide phenomenon, but the trend in the US is terrible.

I hope Switch can bring Nintendo back to some level of sales success. Given the market conditions though, I don't know if that is possible. I'm sure it will sell out immediately, but how is it going to keep people's attention two or three years from launch? Is that even realistic in the age of mobile computing?

 

[nerdbot]

Mario Kart Wii is the most frustrating entry the franchise has seen, Mario Kart 7 really bored me, I didn't think it was good. After Sonic Transformed was so fantastic I was convinced I'd never go for another Mario Kart again.

Then Mario Kart 8 came in and kicked my ass.

 

[ReitStuff]

Is there going to be an investors Q&A?

 

[KillerMan91]

Sure, 2DS got a whopping $20 price drop (lolfiresale) and it's Japanese launch. n3DSXL still sold almost twice as much as 2DS and also actually increased yoy, which is crazy given it launched just last year in the west. Firesales isn't what's driving 3DS sales.

Well maybe firesale was too strong of a word but when the original price is only 99 bucks $20 price cut is pretty whopping actually. Fact is that 2DS is the biggest reason for yoy increase as it's by far the most up yoy of 3DS models. Without 2DS surge 3DS would have been down yoy.

 

[oti]

It's one of the worst Mario Kart games. Can't you just admit that?

Spoiler

I don't want to buy a Wii U and cannot wait for the Switch version.

It's THE WORST MK.

Spoiler

On opposite day.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's the best game in the series too. You can really tell they put a lot more effort into it than what they usually do: amazingly gorgeous visuals, beautifully orchestrated music and the DLC is great too.

I hope we get a better character roster and of course a much better Battle Mode in the Switch version. Add even more new tracks and I won't need a new MK in a long time

They should get rid of all the babies. They are lazy.

 

[thefro]

Is there going to be an investors Q&A?

Yes, that's not until Thursday Morning in Japan

 

[Regiruler]

Giant Robot lives

I find it fascinating how Kirby is actually a way more lucrative and successful series than Metroid.

How is this surprising? It's a kids franchise.

 

[ggx2ac]

Devilish Brain Training refuses to go away. 4 years and counting...

Yeah, why doesn't an investor ask about that in the Q&A? lol

 

[Forkball]

I'm really surprised ORAS managed to outsell HGSS tbh, I wonder how that happened. I always was under the assumption that the orignal R/S wasn't nearly as beloved as G/S.

Way less accessible piracy on the 3DS compared to the DS?

Also Mario Party 10 managing close to 2 millions copies shipped is absolutely insane to me.

Although I personally think Gen III is the worst gen, a lot of people do have tremendous nostalgia for it. Every Pokemon is someone's first Pokemon game and that title will automatically strike a cord. ORAS came out only a year after XY, so people looking to buy a new Pokemon game in the last two years probably picked up ORAS because it was newer. HGSS came out three years after DP and a year after its third version. Although it didn't have new Pokemon, it did have new Mega Evolutions and Primal forms, which was a big selling point especially since some were absurdly powerful.

This all makes me really curious about how Sun/Moon is going to sell. A lot of people rag on XY now, but the hype for it was immense and to me I think the appeal to lapsed fans is greater than Sun/Moon's due to the noticeable jump in graphics (especially 3D Pokemon battles). Pokemon is hotter than it's been in years in pop culture, so it should be interesting to see if that translates to higher sales or if only the Pokemon faithful will dive in.

 

[Magicpaint]

Don't get me wrong, I think it's the best game in the series too. You can really tell they put a lot more effort into it than what they usually do: amazingly gorgeous visuals, beautifully orchestrated music and the DLC is great too.

I hope we get a better character roster and of course a much better Battle Mode in the Switch version. Add even more new tracks and I won't need a new MK in a long time

It's honestly not one of my favourites. The presentation went up a notch but a lot suffered in transition. From the roster, to the poor item balancing, to the lacklustre battle mode and kart customisation. I honestly thought MK7 was better, and that MK DS is still the king. 200 CC is awesome though, and should be a standard moving forward just as retro tracks have been a standard since MK DS.

 

[zelas]

How are those 3DS numbers? What were they previously forecasting for the fiscal year?

 

[MacTag]

Well maybe firesale was too strong of a word but when the original price is only 99 bucks $20 price cut is pretty whopping actually. Fact is that 2DS is the biggest reason for yoy increase as it's by far the most up yoy of 3DS models. Without 2DS surge 3DS would have been down yoy.

I think you're still missing the point, 3DS growth isn't being driven by 2DS being $20 off/firesales, it's being driven by Pokémon Go sparking renewed interest in traditional Pokémon games and the platform that has them. That's why n3DSXL is also up YOY, despite being over twice as expensive and selling nearly twice as much as 2DS.

Besides most of the decline can be attributed to 3DS/XL being discontinued in most major markets. 3DS basically went from 5 models a year ago to 3 currently.

 

[casiopao]

Splatoon is catching up to Smash in sales

what the fuck

Umm Smash is 13 million sold lol.

 

[mrmickfran]

Umm Smash is 13 million sold lol.

Solely on Wii U, I mean.

 

[Cuningas de Häme]

Well maybe firesale was too strong of a word but when the original price is only 99 bucks $20 price cut is pretty whopping actually. Fact is that 2DS is the biggest reason for yoy increase as it's by far the most up yoy of 3DS models. Without 2DS surge 3DS would have been down yoy.

Can people actually buy 2DS somewhere? In Finland they've almost completely disappeared. Only ones you can find are 120€-140€. Been like that at least 1-1,5 years.

I somehow doubt that the 2DS sales are so great compared to other models.

 

[Good Guy Gone Bad]

A disaster aside from Pokémon Go.

They've gotta hit the ground running with the Switch and make sure there isn't a huge software drought so they can keep Hardware and Software sales healthy outside of the launch window and keep revenue coming in.

 

[Rezae]

Those are some bad numbers. 3DS is outdated and old news, and the Wii U was more of a failure than anyone could have predicted. Pokemon and NES Classic are all they're riding on for the Holidays.

 

[tauroxd]

Yeah, but the Japanese gaming sales are massively in the shitter. An 80k opening is considered a good week now. It's hard to say what way it'll go.

That said, Sun & Moon is the closest thing we've had to a "reboot" since Gen 3, so who knows, that could lure people in too

You consider Gen 3 more of a "reboot" than Gen 5? The one who only had new Pokémon in the main campaing and that also had a big hub city and a sequel, a first for Pokémon.

I'm sincerely asking for your opinion on the matter.

 

[maxcriden]

Can people actually buy 2DS somewhere? In Finland they've almost completely disappeared. Only ones you can find are 120€-140€. Been like that at least 1-1,5 years.

I somehow doubt that the 2DS sales are so great compared to other models.

I see 2DS all the time in the US. And I believe it's been selling decently in Japan but I might be misremembering.

 

[Diprosalic]

They had to adjust their financial forecast due to the strengthening yen. (Which is affecting foreign currency exchanges)

it feels like i've heard this for the last 10 years now.

 

[Mysterious]

Is this YTD sales or quarterly? (The 0.34M Wii U, 1.7M 3DS).

 

[Liabe Brave]

The Switch better switch around the business of Nintendo. It looks so bad.

It is very bad. Wii U is the worst-selling Nintendo console, and 3DS is the worst-selling Nintendo handheld. They've made some smart reactionary moves leveraging their IP with Amiibo and mobile games. But even with the extra Pokemon Go and toy revenue, they still lost about $250,000,000 on their game business. (Offset by their sale of the Mariners interest.)

They can bounce back--Sony was in this same position some years ago--but they need a lot to go right with Switch.

 

[twothunder]

for comparisons
Nintendo Q1 FY2016 Earnings software totals compared to Nintendo Q2 FY2016 Earnings software totals
from https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/wiiu.html
Q1 2016

Mario Kart 8 - 7.70 million pcs.
New Super Mario Bros. U - 5.34 million pcs.
Nintendo Land - 5.10 million pcs.
Super Mario 3D World - 5.01 million pcs.
Super Smash Bros. for Wii U - 4.90 million pcs.
Splatoon - 4.42 million pcs.
Super Mario Maker - 3.65 million pcs.
New Super Luigi U - 2.64 million pcs.
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD - 1.82 million pcs.
Mario Party 10 - 1.81 million pcs.
Pokémon X/Pokémon Y - 14.98 million pcs.
Mario Kart 7 - 13.56 million pcs.
Pokémon Omega Ruby/Pokémon Alpha Sapphire - 12.24 million pcs.
SUPER MARIO 3D LAND - 10.81 million pcs.
New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 10.39 million pcs.
Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 10.11 million pcs.
Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS - 8.23 million pcs.
Tomodachi Life - 5.09 million pcs.
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon - 4.88 million pcs.
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - 4.30 million pcs.

Q2 2016

Mario Kart 8 - 8.00 million pcs.
New Super Mario Bros. U - 5.45 million pcs.
Super Mario 3D World - 5.19 million pcs.
Nintendo Land - 5.13 million pcs.
Super Smash Bros. for Wii U - 4.99 million pcs.
Splatoon - 4.57 million pcs.
Super Mario Maker - 3.73 million pcs.
New Super Luigi U - 2.74 million pcs.
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD - 1.98 million pcs.
Mario Party 10 - 1.94 million pcs.
Pokémon X/Pokémon Y - 15.64 million pcs.
Mario Kart 7 - 13.94 million pcs.
Pokémon Omega Ruby/Pokémon Alpha Sapphire - 13.18 million pcs.
SUPER MARIO 3D LAND - 10.98 million pcs.
New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 10.60 million pcs.
Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 10.34 million pcs.
Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS - 8.35 million pcs.
Tomodachi Life - 5.30 million pcs.
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon - 5.03 million pcs.
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - 4.52 million pcs.

 

[ffdgh]

...Well I say congrats mario kart 8 for hitting the crazy 8 despite the insane odds against it. No wonder nintendo is bringing it to switch.

 

[Anth0ny]

Plenty of momentum going into switch launch

 

[gtj1092]

It is very bad. Wii U is the worst-selling Nintendo console, and 3DS is the worst-selling Nintendo handheld. They've made some smart reactionary moves leveraging their IP with Amiibo and mobile games. But even with the extra Pokemon Go and toy revenue, they still lost about $250,000,000 on their game business. (Offset by their sale of the Mariners interest.)

They can bounce back--Sony was in this same position some years ago--but they need a lot to go right with Switch.

Wait they lost that much this quarter or for the year? Either way that's terrible. I was under the impression they had turned the business around.

 

[JoeM86]

You consider Gen 3 more of a "reboot" than Gen 5? The one who only had new Pokémon in the main campaing and that also had a big hub city and a sequel, a first for Pokémon.

I'm sincerely asking for your opinion on the matter.

While Gen 5 had the faux reboot of "look all new Pokémon until postgame", Gen 3 rebooted everything. It redid the entire system for stats, battle system, added so much to the point they had to cut compatibility.

Gen 5 was a superficial soft-reboot
Gen 3 was a mechanical soft-reboot

Wait they lost that much this quarter or for the year? Either way that's terrible. I was under the impression they had turned the business around.

They have, but this year is also a ridiculously quiet year. Very few releases while same level of R&D etc. It's just simple mathematics. They'll likely still end the year in profit.

 

[Anth0ny]

this is super fucked considering the worldwide phenomenon that was pokemon go

I'd be fucking amazed if any of their other mobile games are half as popular as go was this summer

 

[R00bot]

this is super fucked considering the worldwide phenomenon that was pokemon go

I'd be fucking amazed if any of their other mobile games are half as popular as go was this summer

Eh, Nintendo wasn't getting the bulk of pokemon go's profits, although I bet they wish they were. I think their other mobile games will make them more money despite being less successful.

 

[Neoxon]

this is super fucked considering the worldwide phenomenon that was pokemon go

I'd be fucking amazed if any of their other mobile games are half as popular as go was this summer

Nintendo didn't get most of the profits from Pokémon GO.

 

[Vital Tundra]

Eh, Nintendo wasn't getting the bulk of pokemon go's profits, although I bet they wish they were. I think their other mobile games will make them more money despite being less successful.

I think Nintendo's other Mobile games will have better legs than Pokemon for sure. Pokemon hasn't added anything substantial to keep people playing and something like AC could be long lasting.