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Get your SSDs ready, PS4 Pro supports SATA3

Sanke__ said:
So I'm leaning toward 2tb crucial SSD

Any better one out there?
Samsung isn't worth the extra money is it?

And I have enough trouble with only 2tb on my current PS4 so I really don't want to drop to 1tb
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If you can afford a 2TB SSD then by all means stick with the Crucial.
 
MiketheBSG said:
I want to restate that Amazon is incorrect with the cache size of the FireCuda as its 128 MB, not 64 MB. They really need to fix that.
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Apparently it is fixed now because I added one with 128MB to one of my lists tonight.

edit: I'm wrong. That is the Barracuda at 128MB. Firecuda is listed at 64MB
 
Sanke__ said:
So I'm leaning toward 2tb crucial SSD

Any better one out there?
Samsung isn't worth the extra money is it?

And I have enough trouble with only 2tb on my current PS4 so I really don't want to drop to 1tb
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Genuinely I'd wait for actual numbers before dropping money on an SSD over an SSHD. Unless you're loaded then obvs, buybuybuy.
 
Has anybody here done a large scale data transfer between two PS4s using the ethernet ports? I'm wondering what the timescales are when transferring data in the 1TB to 1.5Tb area? I've seen a video of somebody transferred under 300GB and it took about 45 minutes but I have no idea if those numbers will hold up as accurate on a larger scale via simple multiplication.

If I'm being honest I'll probably delete quite a few of the games as they're not really used anyway and just let them download in the background while playing the current stuff on the Pro. I don't mind leaving it for a couple of hours but it seems a but I don't really want to leave both of them running for hours just for games that are rarely used.

Would love to hear about it if people on here have actually transferred a larger hdd across.
 
JP said:
Has anybody here done a large scale data transfer between two PS4s using the ethernet ports? I'm wondering what the timescales are when transferring data in the 1TB to 1.5Tb area? I've seen a video of somebody transferred under 300GB and it took about 45 minutes but I have no idea if those numbers will hold up as accurate on a larger scale via simple multiplication.

If I'm being honest I'll probably delete quite a few of the games as they're not really used anyway and just let them download in the background while playing the current stuff on the Pro. I don't mind leaving it for a couple of hours but it seems a but I don't really want to leave both of them running for hours just for games that are rarely used.

Would love to hear about it if people on here have actually transferred a larger hdd across.
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The backup to HDD takes a while let me just tell you that.
 
DBT85 said:
Genuinely I'd wait for actual numbers before dropping money on an SSD over an SSHD. Unless you're loaded then obvs, buybuybuy.
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Same, I'm waiting for a week after the Pro launches because I want to see if it's worth picking up a FireCuda over a 7200 rpm standard HD. I hope within the first few days we have an answer to this and other hardware questions.

I can't afford a 2TB SSD so I'm really interested to see if the SSHD is an actual improvement over a traditional HD in the Pros. I'm well aware that in theory it should be a good performance improvement but we don't know yet what hardware is actually in the Pro so we don't know if there's something that would hamstring performance.

I'm really impatient for the Pro to launch, waiting another week is annoying but I know it's the responsible thing to do. :\
 
Grimalkin said:
Same, I'm waiting for a week after the Pro launches because I want to see if it's worth picking up a FireCuda over a 7200 rpm standard HD. I hope within the first few days we have an answer to this and other hardware questions.

I can't afford a 2TB SSD so I'm really interested to see if the SSHD is an actual improvement over a traditional HD in the Pros. I'm well aware that in theory it should be a good performance improvement but we don't know yet what hardware is actually in the Pro so we don't know if there's something that would hamstring performance.

I'm really impatient for the Pro to launch, waiting another week is annoying but I know it's the responsible thing to do. :\
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There's near 0 chance that Pro benefits more from SSHD than classic PS4. SSHD are in the end 5400rpm drives with tiny cache for most often data so they have no chance of saturating even sata 1 connection.

Personally I prefer 7200 rpm notebook drives to SSHD since boost is quite close but you get it always whatever you play and no matter how much data is needed.

Crazymoogle said:
Yes, but what we are all saying is that the Firecuda has dramatically reduced the amount of "SSD" (NAND) in the SSHD this time.

If you already own an SSHD, great! It is probably the one with 16 or 32GB NAND.

This one has 8.
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Are you sure ? IIRC all the 2,5" ones had 8GB cache
 
JP said:
Has anybody here done a large scale data transfer between two PS4s using the ethernet ports? I'm wondering what the timescales are when transferring data in the 1TB to 1.5Tb area? I've seen a video of somebody transferred under 300GB and it took about 45 minutes but I have no idea if those numbers will hold up as accurate on a larger scale via simple multiplication.

If I'm being honest I'll probably delete quite a few of the games as they're not really used anyway and just let them download in the background while playing the current stuff on the Pro. I don't mind leaving it for a couple of hours but it seems a but I don't really want to leave both of them running for hours just for games that are rarely used.

Would love to hear about it if people on here have actually transferred a larger hdd across.
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I have not yet done it myself but given the transfer video that was linked up thread, it took 44 minutes to transfer 275GB of data.

If you have a 2TB drive that's almost full that means it will take about 5 hours and 40 minutes to transfer the data over ethernet cable.

michaelius said:
There's near 0 chance that Pro benefits more from SSHD than classic PS4. SSHD are in the end 5400rpm drives with tiny cache for most often data so they have no chance of saturating even sata 1 connection.

Personally I prefer 7200 rpm notebook drives to SSHD since boost is quite close but you get it always whatever you play and no matter how much data is needed.
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I am leaning the same way (going with the faster traditional drive) but I want to see some tests before I make my final decision.

I'm still haunted by the god-awful loading times that we all suffered through with Skyrim PS3, so anything I can do to shave down loading times (while still being an option I can afford) is worthwhile. So if it turns out the SSHDs are a bit faster and it's only ~$10 more, then I will probably do that.
 
michaelius said:
There's near 0 chance that Pro benefits more from SSHD than classic PS4. SSHD are in the end 5400rpm drives with tiny cache for most often data so they have no chance of saturating even sata 1 connection.
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It's far greater than 0 percent, especially since the Pro uses SATA3. That alone will provide some benefit,

But I do agree that I would almost rather have a 7200rpm drive.

Of course in time I will probably just put in a 1TB SSD.
 
michaelius said:
There's near 0 chance that Pro benefits more from SSHD than classic PS4. SSHD are in the end 5400rpm drives with tiny cache for most often data so they have no chance of saturating even sata 1 connection.

Personally I prefer 7200 rpm notebook drives to SSHD since boost is quite close but you get it always whatever you play and no matter how much data is needed.



Are you sure ? IIRC all the 2,5" ones had 8GB cache
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You have Momentus XT 750 GB to buy ( 7200 rpm ). I prefer read speed over capacity. Will pull out 1TB HDd from Pro and put Momentus XT. Will stick with that SSHD.
 
I currently have a 1TB 7200rpm HGST and want to upgrade to a 2TB drive. I naturally would've bought a 2TB 7200rpm drive but they seem to be few and far between, so I've opted for the new 2TB FireCuda SSHD.

It's a bit old, but the results from this video seem to indicate that a 5400rpm SSHD should be on par with a standard 7200rpm drive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZuSc-n6fM
 
Grimalkin said:
I have not yet done it myself but given the transfer video that was linked up thread, it took 44 minutes to transfer 275GB of data.

If you have a 2TB drive that's almost full that means it will take about 5 hours and 40 minutes to transfer the data over ethernet cable.



I am leaning the same way (going with the faster traditional drive) but I want to see some tests before I make my final decision.

I'm still haunted by the god-awful loading times that we all suffered through with Skyrim PS3, so anything I can do to shave down loading times (while still being an option I can afford) is worthwhile. So if it turns out the SSHDs are a bit faster and it's only ~$10 more, then I will probably do that.
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Judging by what I'm seeing I might actually consider just downloading my shit again over time instead of the transfer method. At least with one option I can be up and running relatively quickly and just download everything else over time.

I do have unlimited bandwidth though.
 
vatstep said:
I currently have a 1TB 7200rpm HGST and want to upgrade to a 2TB drive. I naturally would've bought a 2TB 7200rpm drive but they seem to be few and far between, so I've opted for the new 2TB FireCuda SSHD.

It's a bit old, but the results from this video seem to indicate that a 5400rpm SSHD should be on par with a standard 7200rpm drive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZuSc-n6fM
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I also have a the HGST.

I'm wondering if stock PS4 hard drive will be adequate. I'm okay with 1TB, the FireCuda seems to be the popular choice around here. But I really don't want to burn another $120 on another hard drive. My HGST is less than a year old.


DoctorWho said:
Judging by what I'm seeing I might actually consider just downloading my shit again over time instead of the transfer method. At least with one option I can be up and running relatively quickly and just download everything else over time.

I do have unlimited bandwidth though.
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Transfer times are a nightmare.. I plan to re-download everything.. Top 5 games in my rotation and then go from there.
 
JohnnyFootball said:
The backup to HDD takes a while let me just tell you that.
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Grimalkin said:
I have not yet done it myself but given the transfer video that was linked up thread, it took 44 minutes to transfer 275GB of data.

If you have a 2TB drive that's almost full that means it will take about 5 hours and 40 minutes to transfer the data over ethernet cable.
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Thanks, I know it's not going to be quick but I'll cut it down to about a sixty to ninety minute transfer by removing games that there's no danger of me wanting straight away.

I have no issues waiting that long to ensure I've got the games that I want to play on it and downloading the rest while it's being used. For some of the larger games that's a lot quicker than downloading them for me and it'll just be nice to have things like settings, accounts, folders, game saves, Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc all set up exactly as they were and ready to go.
 
Just bought a firecuda 2tb for 140e. Will it really improve loading time from normal hd ? I hate them in xenoverse 2 lol

What is the best way to transfer data from my 2tb current PS4 in preparation for pro ?
 
DJ Lushious said:
No one has done any testing yet and we won't know until if the Pro has any benefits until November 10.
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We don't have to wait until Nov. 10 to know if an SSD will have any performance gains in a PS4 Pro.

It will.

An SSD replacing an HDD in any device will ALWAYS show an improvement. How much of an improvement is the question/dynamic, but an improvement none the less.
 
potatohead said:
What's the best just regular HDD I can put in the PS4 Pro. I want 2 TB.

I got Amazon prime so prefer from there.

Which one is better between these:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8O6OQ4/?tag=neogaf0e-20

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C4W2P18/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Seems like the bottom one is better right?
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Those are both old drives. The updated version is this one. I would never buy PC hardware from an unknown 3rd Party Seller on Amazon but that's just my opinion.

But honestly, the 2TB FireCuda is only $15 more and will almost assuredly have better performance. It's currently out of stock but it should be back in stock soon.
 
f@luS said:
Just bought a firecuda 2tb for 140e. Will it really improve loading time from normal hd ? I hate them in xenoverse 2 lol

What is the best way to transfer data from my 2tb current PS4 in preparation for pro ?
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If you're keeping your existing PS4 around when you get the Pro you can put the Firecuda in the Pro and do a complete data migration of old PS4 to new PS4 transfer via the settings. Then format your old PS4 and get rid off it.
 
mcdomination said:
We don't have to wait until Nov. 10 to know if an SSD will have any performance gains in a PS4 Pro.

It will.
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Yes, of course, but that isn't the question f@luS asked.

And my response wasn't answering his question, either. Haha! I quickly read it as "how will it improve loading times." :P
 
So tempted to get a beefy SSD for my Pro. Balking a little at the price though. It still surprises me that SSDs haven't come down in price more quickly to be honest.
 
Tunesmith said:
If you're keeping your existing PS4 around when you get the Pro you can put the Firecuda in the Pro and do a complete data migration of old PS4 to new PS4 transfer via the settings. Then format your old PS4 and get rid off it.
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thanks, how is it happening? to connect both ps4 together
 
ClearData said:
PSA: TigerDirect is selling 500 GB Samsung 750 Evos for $149. It's not an improvement in storage capacity, but it is a great jump in speed for those inclined to an SSD on a budget.

http://m.tigerdirect.com/products/3...7ce34008&elqaid=305&elqat=1&elqCampaignId=187
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You should be able to get a 1TB SSD for close to that price over the holidays. I would advise waiting.

Coolsambob said:
Is that an OK price, or are we expecting cheaper once it's released properly? Any decent 2tb hard drives about ready for PS4 Pro launch?
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I would expect cheaper deals in the next month.
 
I just read up on Firecudas, game consoles will most likely see zero benefit from those, since they only have 8GB of NAND. Even if you play the same game on the same map every time not all of what the console is cashing would fit in there. And the cashing-algorithm would prioritize the system-OS, so a big chunk of that 8GB will already be taken by that.

Those really only make sense in a Windows-laptop, where the OS would fit right into the NAND.
 
Garou said:
I just read up on Firecudas, game consoles will most likely see zero benefit from those, since they only have 8GB of NAND. Even if you play the same game on the same map every time not all of what the console is cashing would fit in there. And the cashing-algorithm would prioritize the system-OS, so a big chunk of that 8GB will already be taken by that.

Those really only make sense in a Windows-laptop, where the OS would fit right into the NAND.
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Except that digital foundry ran tests and the 1tb firecuda did show decent improvements on the ps4.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-worth-upgrading-your-ps4-with-an-ssd
 
Garou said:
I just read up on Firecudas, game consoles will most likely see zero benefit from those, since they only have 8GB of NAND. Even if you play the same game on the same map every time not all of what the console is cashing would fit in there. And the cashing-algorithm would prioritize the system-OS, so a big chunk of that 8GB will already be taken by that.

Those really only make sense in a Windows-laptop, where the OS would fit right into the NAND.
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I agree. Seems like a 7200rpm would be a better investment.

Once a 1TB SSD gets to under $200 Ill probably take the dive.
 
DOWN said:
What's the difference between these two? Don't plan on getting a non-SSHD but I'm curious

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LX13P71/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Seagate 2TB Laptop HDD SATA 6Gb/s 128MB Cache 2.5-Inch Internal Hard Drive (ST2000LM007) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C4W2P18/?tag=neogaf0e-20
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Those are the same drive, the Barracuda is just the newest version.

I'd be really wary of purchasing from a random 3rd party off Amazon, so I'd go with the newer one sold by Amazon.

But neither are SSHD.
 
Grimalkin said:
Those are the same drive, the Barracuda is just the newest version.

I'd be really wary of purchasing from a random 3rd party off Amazon, so I'd go with the newer one sold by Amazon.

But neither are SSHD.
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Yeah I was just curious if it was simply rebranded and costs more for that reason only

SSDs are crazy prices right now so I may go with a 2TB SSHD

Though I wonder if the default hard drive will do ok for me for a while... It will be SATA III 1TB right? So it should be a faster experience than base PS4 no matter what with the new SATA III compatibility that Pro has?
 
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