maybe a poll to add all the tvs mentioned and people can vote to the one they own. At least that would give a good point to go from.
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maybe a poll to add all the tvs mentioned and people can vote to the one they own. At least that would give a good point to go from.
they price match for your entire return period, 14days by default but if you have higher membership it goes to 30 and 45.
previous years, they have not price matched doorbuster or black friday deals.
JL are pretty good. Last time I was shopping for a TV I brought a USB stick with videos on and played with my shortlisted sets for a while. Also tweaked the settings some.
That's a good idea. Really want to narrow the choices down.
I still haven't heard of any OLEDs that get the job done without there being significant lag when using HDR. It sounds like the KS8000 is the champ as far as LEDs go.
Best thing to do is call them up to see where it is and to find out when it will be arriving in the final hub. Once it is in the local hub call again and schedule the delivery. Mine sat in the hub for over a day with no action until I called them and arranged delivery.
Dark10x seems happy enough with his OLED.
Current batch of 'good and not break the bank' sets seems to be
- Samsung ks8000
- Sony x800D
- lg OLED b6/c6
- Panasonic 750 something
Futurevoid
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Got the B6 calibrated and have been sampling some UHD discs. I installed the latest firmware via thumb drive which helps to correct some HDR stuttering issues amongst other things.
After checking out a myriad of content.
Good christ.
WORTH.
EVERY.
PENNY.
No hyperbole, DEMOLISHES the KS8000 I owned. If money isn't a concern - OLED or bust, IMO. I'm utterly and completely sold right now.
A few things:
- I've read on a few forums that you should run the clean screen noise function right out of the gate and after doing it - I completely agree. The TV had some serious uniformity issues out of the box with a grey test screen showing serious banding. The screen noise function took about an hour but it resolved 95% of the issues including some weird highlight issues at the bottom edge of the set. There's still some vignetting at the corners but I can completely live with it.
- I've never and I mean NEVER seen black bars in film this completely and inky black. It's mind blowing.
- HDR = GODLY.
WANT. MORE. CONTENT.
The Pro can't get here soon enough.
After checking out a myriad of content.
Good christ.
WORTH.
EVERY.
PENNY.
No hyperbole, DEMOLISHES the KS8000 I owned. If money isn't a concern - OLED or bust, IMO. I'm utterly and completely sold right now.
A few things:
- I've read on a few forums that you should run the clean screen noise function right out of the gate and after doing it - I completely agree. The TV had some serious uniformity issues out of the box with a grey test screen showing serious banding. The screen noise function took about an hour but it resolved 95% of the issues including some weird highlight issues at the bottom edge of the set. There's still some vignetting at the corners but I can completely live with it.
- I've never and I mean NEVER seen black bars in film this completely and inky black. It's mind blowing.
- HDR = GODLY.
WANT. MORE. CONTENT.
The Pro can't get here soon enough.
Thank you or the info! Did you just call AGS directly for both calls?
Once you arranged delivery, how fast was it able to get to you? I spoke to AGS the other day and they said it should be at the local hub on Monday..Think I could get it by Thursday for the Pro?
Anyone happen to know the difference between the B6 and this?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-55-c...h-dynamic-range-black/5010100.p?skuId=5010100
I might end up getting that if it's the cadillac of 4K TVs. It's got 4K, OLED and 3D, the latter which I don't use a lot but would hate to give up the 3D movies in my collection.
24 months no finance plus the $1300 or so I'd get from putting my current TV on Craigslist would be easy enough to set up. I just want the continued opinions from people here.
If I'm upgrading I want to make sure it's high grade all the way.
brandonh83
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Damn it. Seriously considering just saving pennies instead of getting something this month.
It was some German outlet with an eBay storefront that only ships within Germany. They had it for close to 2000 Euro (which is a great deal for EU). I know someone else that got an even better deal on an E6, though.Just watched your 4k TVs video. Really curious about that great OLED deal you got
If you search around, there are deals to be had!
...of course, if you live in the US, you'll find better deals anyway. Europe just gets screwed on pricing.
Yes, I called the 1-800 number on the bottom of the tracking page, they will route you to the local hub to arrange delivery.
Mine arrived at the closest hub on Monday and I called them Tuesday morning and was able to arrange delivery for Wednesday. So if you see yours will be at the hub on Monday call on that day to setup delivery. You should definitely have it before Thursday. I think they also give you option of picking it up from the hub so if you have a way to transport it that is another option.
Futurevoid
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It's the higher up model. Adds 3D as noted, uses a bit of a different processor but most have said that all of 2016's OLEDs have nearly identical PQ. The E6 also tested more steady in so far as input lag as opposed to variable lag measured on the B6. Something to keep in mind.
GraveRobberX
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I see B, C, E 6
What the hell happened to G6 from LG?
What the hell happened to G6 from LG?
theifofdreams
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I sorry to sound like a pleb, but I'm having a hard time finding concrete info.
I have a Samsung UN60JU7100 with the latest firmware that enables UHD. Rtings says it supports HDR10. Will I be able to benefit from the HDR settings on the PSPro?
Thanks for any help!
I have a Samsung UN60JU7100 with the latest firmware that enables UHD. Rtings says it supports HDR10. Will I be able to benefit from the HDR settings on the PSPro?
Thanks for any help!
Domcorleone
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Whats the input lag for 4k HDR with the B6?
Oh fantastic! I might call again this evening before the weekend just to make sure it is still on track to arrive to the local hub on Monday.
Did your tracking ever show "arrived at local hub" or did you have to find out just by calling?
Future PhaZe
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mugyf3OLo8
That variable input lag is pretty frightening. I could deal with a higher static number, but it bouncing all over the place is shit
So pretty much no downside with this TV?
This is really important. You can get used to and adjust to a higher, but static input lag. Input lag that cycles between 38ms and 54ms will be noticeable while playing and not something you can adjust to.
Future PhaZe
Member
67 ms input lag in HDR mode is a pretty big downside for gaming
Futurevoid
Member
Input lag is between the 40's (SDR) and high 60 (HDR). I don't have an issue with that at all. If you're more sensitive to it, you might.
Outside of that, I'm happier than a pig in shit with moving to OLED.
The main benefit of the G6 is that it comes with a better soundbar, it's mostly identical to the E6 otherwise. People claim better QC as well but I'm not really sure about that. Considering the price difference, it makes little sense over the E6. Also on the G6 only two of the HDMI ports support Deep Color, so it's actually a downgrade from the E6 in that regard. Most people will be using it with a receiver though so I guess it doesn't matter much, but still worth noting.
Pretty big downside for competitive gaming.
Outside of competitive gaming its entirely subjective. If you mostly play single player games or casual multiplayer then it might not be that big of a deal for you.
Futurevoid
Member
Exactly.
Seems my current TV actually has HIGHER input lag, based on Google searches (doesn't seem to be listed in Amazon specs): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BCGRLUI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/samsung-unxxf8000-game-mode-input-lag-awareness-598215/
Besides, hasn't there been firmware updates for LG regarding input lag?
https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/samsung-unxxf8000-game-mode-input-lag-awareness-598215/
Besides, hasn't there been firmware updates for LG regarding input lag?
I'm from Germany myself and I'm waiting for the global price drop on b6 to hit Germany. No luck so far. I want the 65 inch, but it's toll at 4k while in the US and UK it's at 3K :/
This was the line for the last hub which was in Buffalo (BUF). The only way you will know it is the last hub is by the 3 character code. You can look up their locations on the AGS website to know which hub is closest to you.
ARRIVED AT HUB BUF 10/31/2016 319 ET
STATUS: DELIVERED
Future PhaZe
Member
There are games besides online PVP where poor input lag can greatly degrade the experience. But of course there are many titles out there where input lag matters less, and as well some people just don't seem to feel it much.
But he asked if there are downsides and I answered him.
Yeah JL themselves are usually ok and I love the experience of shopping there. The only communication is "Good afternoon sir". Bliss.
However today I got the Samsung Genuis, very polite and didn't pester but also didn't know anything that wasn't in his 3 minute briefing.
Need to have a look at home. I can get a 55" or probably larger in there as the room is big enough but I have floor standers and they currently flank the TV and have no room to move them out wider. So I'd have to have another option.
I still don't know if I can buy a Samsung but it might be my best option.
Not sure if it "greatly degrades" the experience - that maybe quite the exaggeration. I played on a LG 50PK550 Plasma from 2010 until 2014 and that included playing Call of Duty, Battlefield, Destiny, GTAV, Forza and Dark Souls. All titles which you'd expect to be impacted by input lag. What was the input lag of that TV? 87ms...and not at one point did my experience ever feel "greatly degraded". I enjoyed gaming on that TV just like I did on my gaming monitors. In fact I didn't even know about the high input lag until after I got rid of it when I was researching input lag since everyone was making such a big deal about it.
Sensitivities to input lag vary from person to person, but overall people tend to blow input lag out of proportion. Most casual gamers could play on a TV with "high" input lag and never know it while still thoroughly enjoying their gaming experience.
AngelOFDeath
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For an approximate input lag test you can go here and run the input lag test and take a picture on your phone, then subtract the 2 numbers. Difference will be approximate lag. Funny my tv is only about 50ms, and I've been gaming with no problem on it. I only wish I had the extra cash to shell out for an OLED. The gf is not pleased
http://tft.vanity.dk/
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Domcorleone
Member
What two numbers am i subtracting exactly? This is the HTML input lag test right?
I'm *squeezing* a 50" into a recessed TV unit, so a 49" should be fine but I want a 55". I think I can just rejig the ikea units a bit and get a wider TV bench in there. Would also have the benefit of opening up my stereo speakers - only KEF eggs but the L/R front pair are in cupboards and it's messy to open them up constantly.
I am recognising the symptoms of starting to read reviews and impressions threads, so I think the slippery slope has begun once more. Only question is what I do with my (perfectly usable) current TV. Too big to give to my parents, my kids don't have TVs in their rooms (and too big). Might get a couple hundred quid for it?
Sony 55XD8577 for £999 or Sony 55XD8005 for £949? Don't know what the XD8577 adds compared to the 8005 (which I assume is the same as the 800 in the US?)
And is the Panasonic 58DX750B decent? I think that's the one digital foundry bought? £1049 for 58" seems OK value, although might be a bit big for our room
And is the Panasonic 58DX750B decent? I think that's the one digital foundry bought? £1049 for 58" seems OK value, although might be a bit big for our room
Stick it on facebook. Always some peasant with a portable that needs an upgrade
The xd85 has the X1 4k processor which the sd80 doesn't.
TBH I looked at them all in JL and they all looked great. If I can persuade the wife to contribute I might splash on the 55 XD93 if It'll fit.
But yeah I'm in the same position as you, "I don't need it, but I'll have a look. Ohh isn't that nice, shame I don't need it. But what do the reviews say? Oh interesting, I won't buy that one then, not that I'm buying one. I bought one."
CES is in January where a lot of the big TV producers show off their newest most impressive sets. You should see high end OLED's starting to drop after that, not immediately but once the new models come out the prior years models should get a decent price drop. Wait for a sale and you can probably nab one for under 2K.
ORD is Chicago airport code. It reached Columbus airport now. Slowly making its way east.
Glad that OLED is working out nicely, really jealous. I'll get one in a few years hopefully when the prices come down.
WordsintheWater
Member
My Samsung came in today, didn't expect it at all as I haven't even gotten a shipping notification and it's still listed as preparing for shipment. Excited, but won't dive into the TV till about Sunday.
I'm not that familiar with the specific model, but I find it hard to believe that this year's 8000 series isn't an improvement. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the new set's 1080p upscaling. For reference, my older set is a 2012 Samsung 7500 series and they're not even close.
AngelOFDeath
Member
Hook up your PC/laptop via hdmi to your TV, then run the timer, with your monitor near or in front of the tv, then take a picture of it. The shutter should capture the numbers, your PC being the source, the tv being the display but showing different numbers which you subtract and get an input lag amount. So if your using the same port as your ps4, which is hopefully in game mode, you'll get an idea of your lag.
This LG tv is 200$ off right now in canada.
http://m.bestbuy.ca/defaultpage.asp...etails.aspx?ajax=true&sku=10414411&lang=en-CA
Should i bite? The promotion ends on nov 10.
http://m.bestbuy.ca/defaultpage.asp...etails.aspx?ajax=true&sku=10414411&lang=en-CA
Should i bite? The promotion ends on nov 10.
Futurevoid
Member
Slickdeals has the B6/C6 for $1499 via Ebay (Adorama). Figured I'd post it here for those that may interested:
https://slickdeals.net/f/9265971-li...utm_campaign=tu-9999&src=da_si_v2_ni_14128970
https://slickdeals.net/f/9265971-li...utm_campaign=tu-9999&src=da_si_v2_ni_14128970
JohnDoe8865
Member
This is a pretty great deal right? Should I add the 2 year squaretrade?
Futurevoid
Member
That's an amazing deal. I just paid $1999 for mine. Make sure to be aware of the retailers return policy and obviously take a look at their feedback so that you're comfortable with the transaction but thats the best price I've seen on the set well...ever. I don't want to be responsible for a bad experience with those folks so treat it like any other Ebay transaction.
Warranty is up to you. If there's something wrong with the unit out of the box, you've got the LG warranty but it doesn't appear the squaretrade warranty is pricing so I don't think it would hurt.
What are the best HDR gaming tvs (in terms of input lag) below the $1000 price point?
I been looking around and saw that it's mainly between the Sony X800D and the Samsung.
Really wanting that Sony but the biggest model they got under that brand is 49' . Are there any 55 inches out there that are below $1000 with low input lag at 4k + HDR outside of the Sony and Samsung tvs?
I been looking around and saw that it's mainly between the Sony X800D and the Samsung.
Really wanting that Sony but the biggest model they got under that brand is 49' . Are there any 55 inches out there that are below $1000 with low input lag at 4k + HDR outside of the Sony and Samsung tvs?
I placed an order for a 65 inch KS8000 during the EPP deal. I'm considering cancelling my order and waiting at least 1 more year, because I read in one of the other threads that I have to change the settings every time when I switch back and forth from SDR to HDR? Can someone elaborate?
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