Yeah, and republicans blocked and the electorate rewarded the fuckery.
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Yeah, and republicans blocked and the electorate rewarded the fuckery.
LiquidSword
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Sorry if I'm being rude, but you are part of the problem! Republicans have basically crossed their arms and screamed "no!" for months and you don't even know what's going on
This is why 46% didn't vote. They just don't care
mercenar1e
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zip, nada, zilch, no chance in hell.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Congress has the power to veto candidates for Supreme Court, or even to refuse hearing discussion on the candidate - which is what they've been doing on the basis that 'let the American people decide' (note that this was well back when Scalia had died recently)
This is going to change when Republicans, who are in control of both the House and Senate, are going to get a nomination put forth by Trump.
Dems made a major mistake in trying to compromise - the Repubs doubled down on the fire and brimstone, which has led us to where we are today.
Keihart
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To be fair every year in record has been warmer than the last i think despite the accelartion that brings global warming
The Constitution does not compel any particular timeline for confirming appointments to the Court.
It doesn't even require the Court to be of a certain size. The nine-member composition is set by statute.
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Don't you realize the label of criminal is technically all of them? They committed a "crime" by entering unlawfully.
There isn't going to be a distinction.
Audioboxer
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This. And as I've said a few times don't underestimate the human mind to change a vote at the last second in the polling booth. You need to get people in voting.
QuicheFontaine
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He's high energy. Done by lunch time.
TurboLibre
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Chill out, don't point fingers here. I voted and I'm only vaguely familiar with what happened since I don't have television.
I just don't understand how that could be allowed. Seems like there should be a check to balance out any block from congress on an issue like this.
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Thanks for the responses everyone. Sigh, our government is an unsalvageable wreak.
smokeandmirrors
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This is what infuriates and saddens me
Obama nominated someone who was moderate. Republicans were stalling hoping that Trump would win so they get a nomination thats more right and that bet paid off.
tearsintherain
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posted this in another thread too but Trump's website has a 100 day plan
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/_landings/contract/O-TRU-102316-Contractv02.pdf
Trumps First 100 Days Promise to America
Six measures to clean up the corruption and special interest collusion in Washington, DC:
FIRST, propose a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress.
SECOND, a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce the federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health).
THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated.
FOURTH, a five-year ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service.
FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.
SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.
Five actions to restore security and the constitutional rule of law:
FIRST, cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama.
SECOND, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution.
THIRD, cancel all federal funding to sanctuary cities.
FOURTH, begin removing the more than two million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that wont take them back.
FIFTH, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting.
Seven actions to protect American workers:
FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205.
SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
THIRD, I will direct the Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator.
FOURTH, I will direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately.
FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars worth of job-producing American energy reserves,including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.
SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward.
SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix Americas water and environmental infrastructure.
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/_landings/contract/O-TRU-102316-Contractv02.pdf
Trumps First 100 Days Promise to America
- Middle Class Tax Relief and Simplification Act
- End the Offshoring Act
- American Energy and Infrastructure Act
- School Choice and Education Opportunity Act
- Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act
- Affordable Childcare and Eldercare Act
- End Illegal Immigration Act
- Restoring Community Safety Act
- Restoring National Security Act
- Clean Up Corruption in Washington Act
Six measures to clean up the corruption and special interest collusion in Washington, DC:
FIRST, propose a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress.
SECOND, a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce the federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health).
THIRD, a requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated.
FOURTH, a five-year ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service.
FIFTH, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.
SIXTH, a complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.
Five actions to restore security and the constitutional rule of law:
FIRST, cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama.
SECOND, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the U.S. Constitution.
THIRD, cancel all federal funding to sanctuary cities.
FOURTH, begin removing the more than two million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that wont take them back.
FIFTH, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting.
Seven actions to protect American workers:
FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205.
SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
THIRD, I will direct the Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator.
FOURTH, I will direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately.
FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars worth of job-producing American energy reserves,including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.
SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward.
SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix Americas water and environmental infrastructure.
Bolivar687
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Regarding the Supreme Court - up until recently, most saw it as evenly split liberal/conservative, with Justice Kennedy as the moderate swing vote tiebreaker. However, he's penned too many majority opinions on social issues in recent years to leave any doubt that the Court is stacked 5-4 liberal. Filling Scalia's seat isn't going to change that dynamic any more than when Scalias was there.
That said, Breyer, Ginsburg and Kennedy are all over or near 80 years old.
That said, Breyer, Ginsburg and Kennedy are all over or near 80 years old.
In the past it was just normal to approve supreme court nominees so long as they were qualified. There's no check because no check was needed. Then the pubs went nuclear.
Darryl M R
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Where do we go next? Minorities have been saying for years that we do not live in a post racial society. That America still has a lot of hate in her heart. How do you cure that hatred? Who leads that movement? Minorities cannot be expected to go into these rural communities that displayed their white-lash. It is not feasible. So who will go? Or do we just try to move to a popular vote system to avoid all of this in the future and hope that hatred is smothered in the night instead of left faintly waning.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
No referees in this game, man.
12 years later and Jon Stewart's Crossfire rant is every bit as relevant as ever.
PinkyMonkey
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What was his stance on taxes again...are we all getting a tax cut now?
Regginator
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People don't care whether he is or isn't in practice. "If he's a sinner, Jesus will forgive him" or whatever Christians believe.
LiquidSword
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Sorry. Not pointing fingers. It's just that that's the reason it is allowed and now Republicans are being rewarded for it. Because most people are ignorant of these things happening or just see it as white noise that isn't going to affect them.
Hillary cant fail, the electorate can only fail her
But the "large groups" angle made it look like Hillary was guaranteed to win. (Poll results)
People voted in secret as individuals, and this was the result.
People wanted to vote for Trump, but didn't want others to know they would vote for Trump. "Large groups" would be where everyone knows what everyone is doing, and they are following a herd mentality.
People knew there was more to vote for, than just the president, did they?
BTW.: the president and the government being 2 different votes is kinda confusing.
Was already confusing when Obama couldn't do much, because the government was mostly Republicans.
Why is that even possible and how does something like that happen?
Democrats just need a good candidate next time. Simple as that. Hilldog may have been qualified, but she was a shitty candidate.
Gaylord Sweetwood
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Yes, I think there will be a distinction. He points out the criminals that have already been deported before for crimes and are back, as well as criminal organizations (gangs, cartels, etc.)
We need to find another dividing line other than black/white/Asian/whatever.
Poor/middle class vs rich/corporate/elites is as much of the story this election as white supremacy vs a multiracial society.
Hellwarden
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Remember when we thought Republicans were fucked regarding the supreme court, because the election was in the bag?
Good times.
Good times.
What?
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
The 3 branches of the US federal government in tl;dr form:
- Congress writes the law. (This is what you're calling "the government.")
- The president enforces the law.
- The court interprets/clarifies the law when it's disputed.
Syphon Filter
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Holy shit this is surreal to me, I honestly didn't expect it.
Gaylord Sweetwood
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But but but, locker room talk isn't a thing!!!!
UnObtainium17
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A possibility of 7-2 SC Js in favor of conservatives.. Jesus christ
I thought they were stupid to not confirm it when Trump was the resulting candidate.
But I guess now they can do what they want.
Razorback
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For a long time I just couldn't wrap my head around why people thought Hillary was just as bad or worse than Trump but I have a theory now.
It's because Hillary's scandals are confusing and you have to read up on a lot of stuff to even understand what's she's being accused of.
On the other hand, Trump's problems are all out in the open and clear as day. Sexist, racist, doesn't pay taxes, gropes women. All of this is easy to understand.
America decided to vote on the evil that they know rather than the one that they don't.
It's because Hillary's scandals are confusing and you have to read up on a lot of stuff to even understand what's she's being accused of.
On the other hand, Trump's problems are all out in the open and clear as day. Sexist, racist, doesn't pay taxes, gropes women. All of this is easy to understand.
America decided to vote on the evil that they know rather than the one that they don't.
MysteryQuesadilla
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I'm interested to see how the legal issues Trump has regarding Trump University, tax returns (I think) eventually being released/leaked will play out now?
You can forget about gay marriage, whether for the duration of Trump's term or beyond.
Audioboxer
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If it's tax avoidance and not tax evasion there will likely be no legal issues.
mercenar1e
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releasing his taxes was never a requirement for being the President.. nothing will happen with Trump University.
Choppasmith
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Us in a few months.
I just talked to my 80 year old grandmother. She was on the verge of tears saying "I'm most worried about you kids and how you'll have to deal with his actions. I can only imagine how scared the Muslim (and other minority) communities must be." For the record she's white who was raised Catholic. She lost sleep with worry, I've never seen her like this, I just want to give her a hug
Pai Pai Master
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They won't abolish gay marriage but we should stop expecting similar progress for other minority groups for the foreseeable future. 20-30 years trans people will be waiting to see if the country will accept then for who they are. I have friends who don't think they can wait that long.
Gaylord Sweetwood
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There won't be any legal issues, there is a greater chance Clinton gets busted from the FBI's ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
It's up to us to accept them, not who is in the White House or who controls congress/supreme court. Sure, trans people might not be able to use the public bathroom they identify as, but accepting them for who they are is up to us.
RedSparrows
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Not sure that was ever the point, but heyho. Bants is action is bants.
The majority of white women voted for Trump so either they are ok with this sentiment or don't care.
One of the worst things about Trump winning is that this (and all of the Republican's other obstruction) has been 100% vindicated.
RPGCrazied
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Please. They control congress, gay marriage is gone. Look, his own VP thinks he can shock gay people and turn them straight.
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