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[JORMBO]

Well as a Trump supporter I'll go the opposite and just tell Hillary supporters it was an entertaining race and that there are many positives from the Clinton nomination. I wont block somebody or disassociate with a friend or family member simply because they supported Hillary

Same.

 

[mike6467]

Had to wake up to this, I thought I'd unfollowed all the Trump supporters on FB, but apparently this guy was silent until now. I have to deal with him on a regular basis and he's extremely outspoken. Not looking forward to it, best I can do is not engage I think. (Edited to erase his daughters name in the third paragraph, it was just a first name, but still).

 

[Ichabod]

In the real world all I've seen so far are friends responding the same way I did when our current Potus was elected. Shrugged shoulders and "eh, we'll just have to see what happens" sentiment.
On the internet....not so much.

 

[Toxi]

Because what this country needs is more segregation right?

That will surely help in 4 years, when Trump get's reelected...

You want me to engage with the sort of person who would vote for Trump again after four years of ineptitude? I'm not a masochist.

 

[Mistouze]

That said, I'm not going to fuck around and label all of his 50 mil voters racist.

At best you're dealing with 50 mil people who are fine with voting with a racist, are apathetic towards LGBTQ rights and think giving Trump the keys to the White House is fine. Yeeesh.

 

[Aristion]

For straight white people.

And for minorities such as myself. Life truly goes on.

 

[Vicetrailia]

The opposition is active in not allowing minorities to breathe through shame, some force, apathy and willfulness. Through shame the liberals are demanding that the opposition allows them to breathe.

 

[Psychoward]

The opposition is active in not allowing minorities to breathe through shame, apathy and willfulness. Through shame the liberals are demanding that the opposition allows them to breathe.

They don't share the same burdens and should be graded differently. What is the opposition doing to be inclusive?

Ding ding ding

Where's my apology as an lgbt citizen? Waiting any moment for Pence and co. to rescind their horrible decisions


Why are privileged people in this thread telling me to get a grip when my civil rights are at stake and they never had to fear for theirs'


This is how I feel as a white agnostic male coming from an upper middle class family. I can't even imagine how people who are "more minority" than I am taking it.

 

[Glass Shark]

Well as a Trump supporter I'll go the opposite and just tell Hillary supporters it was an entertaining race and that there are many positives from the Clinton nomination. I wont block somebody or disassociate with a friend or family member simply because they supported Hillary

Glad it was "entertaining" for you. It's fucking terrifying for plenty of people.

 

[Muppet of a Man]

Juggling between empathy and contempt.

I feel ready to bury my mother in guilt by having her realize she will get her goal of Obamacare being gutted, at the loss of Medicaid for me and my brother. Worse still, assuming we go back to a cartel system, doesn't that bring back pre-existing conditions? Which...well, my brother would technically have now.

I get people are frustrated, but those for Trump, literally, elected the worst people in the country to help you out.

I am terrified this will happen. My son is autistic and will need therapies that cost north of 100k per year.

We are screwed if the insurance companies go back to their old shitty ways, which they will be since they are fucking pieces of inhuman shit.

 

[Fancyarcher]

Fortunately I haven't run into any Trump supporters, because there are seemingly none where I live. If I did run into any, I'd just ignore them.

 

[Psychoward]

Glad it was "entertaining" for you. It's fucking terrifying for plenty of people.

It should be fucking terrifying for everyone considering his stance on foreign policy and climate change. Both bipartisan disasters.

 

[Messofanego]

I apologize if this seems like rambling, but I've not slept in well over 24 hours. But here it goes:

We've become the republican party having the hierarchy switched. I imagine that many republicans felt about democrats just like we feel about them now. Being in the losing side sucks, because we are always going to be thinking of the worst case scenario. We had people in GAF expressing a want to suicide because of the election results. Let this sink in: Some thought that suicide would be the best option to escape the nightmare scenario they hypothesize. It's a terrible place to be in. We have people on Facebook and Twitter post the phone number of the suicide prevention hotline.

Whether we like it or not, Trump has won fair and square. I have my reservations of course, but until proven otherwise, I will believe in our electoral process. As such, the only thing we can do is hope and pray and maybe even reconcile with the other side of the isle to make things work. We have to encourage Trump's success because if he fails, if the senate and congress fail, we will all fail. We will all feel the consequence of it. It's fine to be angry, to want to cry, to feel cheated even. But we have to move forward, and we have to make the best of what we have. We need to look ahead and start the roadway to the next election so that we can vote for someone that will fight for what we believe in.

Alienating the republicans is not the way to go. We can't label them racist - there's a lot that just wanted an outsider - any outsider - into government to disrupt the status quo. Even if that person happened to be a man with bad character. If we alienate them again, if we choose to label them all with a broad brush, if we think lesser of them because they are sometimes less educated - we're only going to end up on the losing side of an election again. Instead, we need to make people see what we see, and tell them how fighting for what we believe in is also fighting to make life better for them. It shouldn't be an us vs them mentality, I think it needs to be just an us mentality.

Now is not the time for liberals or democrats to become moderates. Maybe it would have worked to foster conversation, discussion, and even conversion, when you had respectable Republican candidates and leaders, but Trump and his supporters are not the kind you need to tire yourself in being polite to their bigoted and hateful ways. I agree with you that we need to show how we're fighting for social justice and make them empathise, but that won't be a polite conversation. If a person being challenged on their racist/sexist/bigoted views makes them worse, they weren't open to reason anyway. If they don't want to be with us, then they're going to be them.

Now is not the time for order and the absence of tension, as MLK Jr would say.

 

[hamchan]

Well as a Trump supporter I'll go the opposite and just tell Hillary supporters it was an entertaining race and that there are many positives from the Clinton nomination. I wont block somebody or disassociate with a friend or family member simply because they supported Hillary

Well yeah, you have no reason to block those Hillary supporters, because those people didn't vote for a candidate that made you feel like less of a human being for not being a white, straight person.

 

[Apdiddy]

I had to defriend a bunch of high school people I knew on Facebook this morning. I basically put a message up which said that the victory for Donald Trump is not a victory for America. I quoted Leonard Cohen (when he talked about his former business manager stealing his life savings) at the end of my post.

I got comments like "sore loser" and "you must be on welfare" from people who work in factories and work for an utility company. I'm sure one of them and their employers would love hearing about that comment on Facebook from one of their employees, but I don't really care. In a few years, they are probably getting laid off anyway.

I tried to get them to understand it's not a simple 'Republicans win, Democrats lose' result. We all lose.

 

[Messofanego]

I had to defriend a bunch of high school people I knew on Facebook this morning. I basically put a message up which said that the victory for Donald Trump is not a victory for America. I quoted Leonard Cohen (when he talked about his former business manager stealing his life savings) at the end of my post.

I got comments like "sore loser" and "you must be on welfare" from people who work in factories and work for an utility company. I'm sure one of them and their employers would love hearing about that comment on Facebook from one of their employees, but I don't really care. In a few years, they are probably getting laid off anyway.

I tried to get them to understand it's not a simple 'Republicans win, Democrats lose' result. We all lose.

Too bad they don't realise Trump doesn't care about the working class. Nothing will get better for them, it'll only get better for the upper middle class and above who'll pay even less taxes while no one below gets to see the benefits.

 

[EmpressInYellow]

I'll slap them on the back and say "Job well done people"

So cool to see all the people trolling this thread. It really speaks well of them and doesn't at all make them look like petty, barely-literate bigots.

 

[Glass Shark]

Well yeah, you have no reason to block those Hillary supporters, because those people didn't vote for a candidate that made you feel like less of a human being for not being a white, straight person.

Conversion therapy and mass deportation are definitely the same thing as being called "deplorable" tho

This has been the election of false equivalency and it's not over yet, I see

 

[EmpressInYellow]

Had to wake up to this, I thought I'd unfollowed all the Trump supporters on FB, but apparently this guy was silent until now. I have to deal with him on a regular basis and he's extremely outspoken. Not looking forward to it, best I can do is not engage I think. (Edited to erase his daughters name in the third paragraph, it was just a first name, but still).

My response would be, "You may not think you're all of those things, but you're apparently totally fine with them, at least."

 

[CrispyBoar]

Let's get this straight. They're all racists. They're all misogynists. They're all homophobes. They're all Islamophobes. Every single one of them.

How can I say that? Because they voted for Trump.

Sure, not every one of them might think of themselves that way. They might not go around using the n word. I'm sure some of them have "black friends". Maybe they really think that they respect women.

But they were all willing to vote for Trump. They voted for a man who launched his campaign by saying that all Mexicans were rapists and drug dealers. A man who has been recorded bragging about grabbing women by the pussy. Who has demeaned women repeatedly throughout his public life. Who called for the execution of five innocent black teenagers. Who wants to ban all Muslim people from entering the country.

If you vote for him, you're a bigot. You believe all of those things. Or worse, you're willing to accept them just on the fear that Hillary would have taken your guns or whatever.

I don't want to hear about how we should be more accepting of Trump supporters. Or how calling them out just makes them double down. We've tried for 50 fucking years to coddle racists; to avoid calling them racists or bigots because we can't hurt their precious feelings. Guess what? It hasn't fucking worked. It's just lead to those racists views becoming more and more entrenched. We need to take a strong hand to all bigoted views. We need to call shit out.

When people say that everyone should be more open to Trump supporters, that sets off red flags with me. I mean hell, I'm a straight white man, and I'm terrified. I can only imagine how much worse everyone who is black, or hispanic, or gay, or Muslim, or a woman of color, or multiple of the above is feeling right now. And if you can't feel compassion for what all of those people are going through as they've seen nearly half their country willing to throw them to the wind, then maybe you're part of the problem.

Amen. I'm going to laugh at my sister, a few of my friends, & at a bunch of idiots who either voted for Trump or are in favor of him once they realize that he isn't going to fulfill what he has promised & that they've been played for suckers.

I'm not going to unfriend them from my Facebook page. I'm just going to post to them, "I told you so; I fucking told you so. You wanted that idiot in the white house, & you got it" while at the same time, laughing at them as I type that statement on the keyboard in front of the computer screen.

 

[Maebe]

Remember that more than half of your country voted for Trump and they are not thinking about how to deal with you.

Go back to work like any other day. Life goes on.

Less than half.
And I'm sure these people have always had ways of "dealing" with minorities.

 

[mike6467]

My response would be, "You may not think you're all of those things, but you're apparently totally fine with them, at least."

Yeah, that much is apparent, he's also a devout Christian and you'll notice he didn't list homophobic, since he has no problem with that.

The whole thing is just exacerbating. I apologize for venting, this came after I heard some stuff in the gym that reinforced a lot of the things I was afraid of. In short, people suck.

 

[jonno394]

So cool to see all the people trolling this thread. It really speaks well of them and doesn't at all make them look like petty, barely-literate bigots.

I'm curious to know what part of my post made me out to be barely literate? I can point out exactly what parts make you out to be a bitter Democrat voter if you'd like?

 

[Chumley]

You're defining liberal tolerance here, bud. There's a reason you lost, and it's not because 50 million people are racist, though if you want to delude yourself, you have that right. Look into having meaningful discussions with those that you disagree with and try to find some common ground, rather than just blanket hating.

Trump's campaign is built on intolerance. His followers are intolerant. He mocks the disabled, endorses torture, laughs about how easy it is for him to sexually assault women. His running mate is vehemently anti-gay, anti-abortion.

Do not fucking dare tell me I have to tolerate that. I don't, and I won't, and he isn't my president. My girlfriend was sobbing after the Trump tape video and today we both feel dead inside. How do you tell your kids that this guy is someone to look up to? That he holds the most powerful office in the world? Tolerance is over. We have to be as bad to the other side as they always have been to us, and worse.

A lot of voters were clearly shamed by accusations of racism, to the extent that they lied to pollsters about their beliefs. If I understand you correctly, democrats should have doubled down on these accusations to win the election? How would that have worked out, exactly?

They should have doubled down on the truth and woke the fucking electorate up to get out and vote. The 6 million more that went for Obama stayed home this time. It's on them, and it's on the DNC. Everyone took it for granted that Trump would lose.

 

[Omega Kirby]

So, Michelle is likely to run for president in 2020?

 

[EmpressInYellow]

I'm curious to know what part of my post made me out to be barely literate? I can point out exactly what parts make you out to be a bitter Democrat voter if you'd like?

I like how that's the part you object to.

But whatever. Shine on, you crazy diamond. I look forward to the people who voted for him suffering under his inane policies.

EDIT: actually, no, you know what? Dismissing people legitimately concerned about their safety in a country that just validated white supremacy, nativism, and strongman authoritarianism as "bitterness" displays a pretty impressive lack of empathy.

 

[marrec]

So, Michelle is likely to run for president in 2020?

No, she don't want any of this shit.

 

[jonno394]

I like how that's the part you object to.

But whatever. Shine on, you crazy diamond. I look forward to the people who voted for him suffering under his inane policies.

No point objecting to the bigot statement seeing as the gaf hivemind has determined every trump supporter to be one. Thankfully I didn't actually vote for him as I don't even live in the USA

Edit - dismissing someone who is happy Trump won as "barely literate" and a "bigot" is allowed though. One rule for one eh...

 

[EmpressInYellow]

No point objecting to the bigot statement seeing as the gaf hivemind has determined every trump supporter to be one. Thankfully I didn't actually vote for him as I don't even live in the USA

Oh, cool, so you don't even have the "economic anxiety" excuse. What parts of his platform appealed to you the most? Was it the "banning Muslims" part or the bit where he called Mexicans rapists and murderers? Call it scientific curiosity.

 

[kiunchbb]

Trump voters get more respect from me than anti-trump that didn't vote.

 

[jonno394]

Oh, cool, so you don't even have the "economic anxiety" excuse. What parts of his platform appealed to you the most? Was it the "banning Muslims" part or the bit where he called Mexicans rapists and murderers? Call it scientific curiosity.

The bit where he wasn't Hillary.

 

[Korey]

Unfriend the shit out of them.

This isn't a game or about who your favorite candidate is. The consequences of what happened are extremely severe.

 

[RedHill]

I agreed more with his fiscal stances over Hillary's and thought that outweighed some of my disagreements on a few social stances he has.

"A few social stances"

Hope I have fun in gay conversion therapy.

 

[marrec]

Oh, cool, so you don't even have the "economic anxiety" excuse. What parts of his platform appealed to you the most? Was it the "banning Muslims" part or the bit where he called Mexicans rapists and murderers? Call it scientific curiosity.

The answer you're going to get from a lot of Trump supporters if you ask this question is going to be "change".

Most people on GAF will ignore that answer in favor of branding them racist.

They are, of course, 100% wrong as Trump does not represent change from the status quo except in regression of social and scientific policy.

 

[Psychoward]

"A few social stances"

Hope I have fun in gay conversion therapy.

I'll be there to keep you company, I'm only bi but I'm sure I'm enough of an abomination to Pence.


Hmm maybe I can use my white male card to get out of it

 

[Angelus Errare]

I respect none of them, I don't have to respect them and never will. I'll continue to see Trump supporters as I have been since he started running. A bunch of racist xenophobic pieces of shit who cry about PC but then cry when I call them racist POS.

Told my coworkers to miss me with their fake "we gotta love one another". That whole abuser rhetoric don't work with me.

 

[EmpressInYellow]

The answer you're going to get from a lot of Trump supporters if you ask this question is going to be "change".
.

If their answer is "change", they are too stupid to be allowed to cross the street unsupervised, much less vote.

 

[Wizeguy21]

The answer you're going to get from a lot of Trump supporters if you ask this question is going to be "change".

Most people on GAF will ignore that answer in favor of branding them racist.

They are, of course, 100% wrong as Trump does not represent change from the status quo except in regression of social and scientific policy.

Only because Voting for Trump Feels like validation for his racist/sexist comments.

 

[Pyrokai]

What are you guys doing with parents whom you love but voted for Trump?

My parents are good people.....they're just ignorant and oblivious.

I love them and don't know what to do. I just don't know what to do.....

 

[jonno394]

If their answer is "change", they are too stupid to be allowed to cross the street unsupervised, much less vote.

But if the same uneducated person just ticked Democrats/Hillary on their polling card without a clue, they'd no longer be stupid as they voted for your preferred candidate?

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I lost a lot of respect for them.

 

[Psychoward]

But if the same uneducated person just ticked Democrats/Hillary on their polling card, they'd no longer be stupid?

Ah the both sides are the same argument is here again

 

[Stylo]

I am personally conflicted as my girlfriend and her family voted for Trump...(They're devout Catholics and heavily involved in Pro-Life rallies)

 

[Psychoward]

I am personally conflicted as my girlfriend and her family voted for Trump...(They're devout Catholics and heavily involved in Pro-Life rallies)

I could never have sex with someone when abortion wasn't on the table. Godspeed brother.

 

[EmpressInYellow]

But if the same uneducated person just ticked Democrats/Hillary on their polling card without a clue, they'd no longer be stupid as they voted for your preferred candidate?

I'm not sure what you're even trying to say here. I'm critiquing their rationale. "Change" is the most nebulous, bullshit, fairyland answer imaginable. Cancer is change. A giant meteor impact is change. A blow to the head with a baseball bat is change.

 

[cr0w]

What are you guys doing with parents whom you love but voted for Trump?

My parents are good people.....they're just ignorant and oblivious.

I love them and don't know what to do. I just don't know what to do.....

Cut 'em off. They only gave birth to and raised you, but that's not important. What is important is their political views.

If you REALLY want to show them, delete them from your Facebook.

 

[marrec]

Ah the both sides are the same argument is here again

I'm sorry but what the poster is saying is that uninformed voting crosses party lines, not that both sides are equally bad.

Slow down and try to read what people are saying rather than just assuming the worst and reading what isn't there.

 

[EmpressInYellow]

Cut 'em off. They only gave birth to and raised you, but that's not important. What is important is their political views.

If those political views are "these other people are less deserving of basic legal protections", then, I mean...

There's this tendency to chalk it up to "political views" like we're talking about marginal tax rates and not, say, the basic humanity of certain segments of the population.

 

[jonno394]

I'm sorry but what the poster is saying is that uninformed voting crosses party lines, not that both sides are equally bad.

Slow down and try to read what people are saying rather than just assuming the worst and reading what isn't there.

Indeed.

 

[xxracerxx]

I am personally conflicted as my girlfriend and her family voted for Trump...(They're devout Catholics and heavily involved in Pro-Life rallies)

This is terrifying in its own right.