Gaylord Sweetwood
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Donald J. Trump elected 45th President of the United States
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I don't know where he's getting those millions of votes from. There aren't enough precincts left.
DiipuSurotu
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Ivanka is pretty much the real First Lady
Zen_Arcade
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Understand that not everyone voted for Trump for the same reasons and that you should treat people as individuals and not a mass clump that all share the same ideals and thoughts.
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On a few levels...
Waldo Lydecker
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Maybe they'll divorce pretty soon?
RPGCrazied
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People better hide their speeches, she is coming for them.
TheChocolateWar
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This kind of incendiary reasoning is only going to further incite and solidify the opposing party, and will not be good going forward. A person can make a rational, self-egoist decision about their own economic decisions and still care about the plight of other people. There is a difference between not caring at all and making a decision to care more about their own problems.
Good morning New America
(This is in Philly)
I wish these were just screens from Call of Duty 5: Modern Civil Warfare.
All the pics of people crying and none of them are minorities. As a minority something about the total freakout by the class that's privileged is ironic and slightly bothersome. Everybody else is kinda like ok, same ole shit, life goes on.
Anyway my two cents on backlash or whatever is people need to follow the lead of Hillary/Obama/Trump and work on coming together. Anything to the contrary is working against the candidates and since the election is over it's operating for selfish reasons.
Anyway my two cents on backlash or whatever is people need to follow the lead of Hillary/Obama/Trump and work on coming together. Anything to the contrary is working against the candidates and since the election is over it's operating for selfish reasons.
Good morning New America
(This is in Philly)
And the thing now is people that might have normally been pursued by law enforcement because you shouldnt do things like that, get to wrap it all up in political support for the president now, making things far more complicated, and bringing everyone out into the open, meaning they can recruit more. This is some straight civil war type shit.
OrbitalBeard
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Thank you! That's why I couldn't find data any earlier!
Chmpocalypse
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They just endorse it by trusting their future to one who doesn't give a shit about them.
When she lost by like 2% to DONALD FUCKING TRUMP, yes it is. If you are telling me she couldn't have made up 2% or whatever it was by not calling everyone that supported Trump, and those on the fence, deplorable and basing her entire end game on the idea of "Well, I'm not Donald Trump, vote for me", you are blind.
There are 100 ways she could have made up that 2%, and caring about what the other side thinks beyond calling them racist and sexist was one of them.
RPGCrazied
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They could care, they just don't.
I really feel for the people who voted against Trump and did not really want a president like him.
It's kind of a similar situation like back in Mexico in 2012 when the majority elected an incompetent demagogue for our president.
Gotdatmoney
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No the question is important because people want to divorce race from this discussion and act like the demonization of Trump supporters is what pushed them to him.
It's not. He found his footing through racism and that is what opened the door for anything else he wanted to talk about. He never failed to bring his talking points back to race.
So I'm saying people insinuating it was liberals that pushed people to Trump are misguided. This guy only got to where he was through that rhetoric. His supporters dont give a shit about what Liberals had to say. If a guy can only get on the map through racism than how is it the left that pushed them to it?
SparkleMotion
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If you support Donald Trump, you are supporting racism and sexism. It really is that simple.
TheChocolateWar
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No, again, that is slightly off. They can still care, but just care *more* about their own personal problems. It is hard to convince a drowning animal to help support their drowning neighbor. Especially when by doing so you place yourself at an increased risk.
I think the election may have been lost because the campaign failed to identify/quantify a large bloc of voters with more pressing (probably economic) priorities or just apathy for social progress. I do not think these people went out to vote to prove a point or get revenge for being subjected to mockery by the left (that seems more like a narrative befitting to people who post on internet message boards). Trumps isolationist economic policies and the prospect of jobs which this (supposedly) brings back which have eroded away due to the policies enacted by the existing establishment (right and left) is probably far more important to them than the character of the president or any other policy stance. I personally do not identify with this and am disappointed that people have chosen the way they have but there is more nuance here than to label a large segment of the population as bigoted (even if in their apathy, they enable exactly that). I do not think the problem was the lack "inclusiveness" of bigoted viewpoints (I don't think a compromise should ever be made on this subject) but of having the wrong conversation with the wrong set of people. Then again, what do I know about how campaigns set agendas and target their messaging.
StarlordDial
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Goddamit ..... i never thought of that ... and worse is I always mistake her for Madison Ivy ... damn it !
This has likely been covered, but is there any validity to the people scapegoating the third party voters? Just to be clear, I didn't like either of the third party candidates, and I voted for Hillary, but it seems very silly to blame the third party voters when there were such larger glaring issues that caused Hillary to lose.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
The "forgotten man and woman"? Which man and which woman is he talking about?
The "forgotten man and woman"? Which man and which woman is he talking about?
RPGCrazied
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The old white straight ones.
EatinOlives
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No, when she lost by small percentage margins in several swing states, that's when you know that these were winnable states if only they had paid attention to them.
You're completely ignoring the reality of the situation. Just what do you think the Clinton campaign was doing, if not operating from bad polls? Just sitting in their ass and shitposting?
Digital-Hero
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Its going to get worse. Police are for Trump.
Meh, that just means I'll get pulled over a couple extra times more. It's not like racist police action is new. They've been here.
Whether that is true or not is irrelevant. He made them believe he did, Hillary didn't, that's literally politics.
Audioboxer
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There was certainly complacency.
People had all kinds of claims like Obama would take their guns or death panels. Thinking he would declare himself emperor.
Some fears may be well founded, but many are not.
More validity to the people scapegoating nonvoters. 8 Million less people voted in this election than 2012 which was already an abnormally low-turnout year. Trump won with less votes than Romney lost with.
BFIB
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I pretty much said that earlier on Facebook, and of course the Trump supporters "I dont support him for this reason, don't lump me in w/ those!"
EatinOlives
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This. And it's astounding that there's people trying to guilt us for pointing it out.
Codeacious
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I just got back from our department's weekly general research meeting, and since there was no speaker, we had an open mic hour. The first thing brought up was the election, obviously. Once that conversation sort of died out, one of the professors said, "Does anyone have something other than the election to talk about?" I literally heard a pencil drop outside and down the hall due to how quiet it was in the room.
Everyone here is devastated today. At one point, someone seriously asked if our NSF funding was in jeopardy due to this. Thankfully, my specific area has bipartisan support, but a few of my friends are freaking out.
Everyone here is devastated today. At one point, someone seriously asked if our NSF funding was in jeopardy due to this. Thankfully, my specific area has bipartisan support, but a few of my friends are freaking out.
I don't think they can do both, but maybe.
Nikana
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I guess I will put this out there and see what happens but I voted for Donald Trump.
I will tell you exactly why I did it and why I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton and my reasons have nothing to do with racism or any of that bull crap that people seem to keep trying to make Trump voters turns out to be.
I'm a 26 year old white male. And I make around $20,000 a year. I consider myself to be a hard-working 20 something year old guy with a lot of my future but there were a few things in the end of Obama's administration that absolutely destroyed me, mainly Obamacare.
I fall into this small Gap that Obamacare absolutely did nothing for but destroy my wallet while giving me subpar health care that I not only didn't want but offered almost virtually no benefit to me.
Because I made too much to not be considered to be in poverty in my state I was not offered any subsidies on any kind of health care plan. My options are pretty much to buy a healthcare plan with extremely high deductibles that are almost like car insurance for a couple hundred bucks a month. He offered absolutely no real benefit to me medical wise.
But the thing that really set me off was that he basically bullied me into healthcare. It was pretty much either buy health care or be fine so suddenly I'm in the situation when ObamaCare got passed that my monthly budget was cut by a couple hundred dollars for something I only didn't want but I didn't need.
When you only make $20,000 a year and suddenly twelve to fourteen hundred dollars out of it is just proof gone for something you don't want it's extremely frustrating.
But this small Gap that Obamacare doesn't cover of this group people that make too much to be considered not in poverty but too little to actually afford any kind of Obamacare plans. It represents many people my age just trying to get out into the workforce and trying to figure out something that they want to do with their lives.
When you combine that with more and more companies cutting any kind of health care plans for their employees that are not full time, which I am one of, suddenly in the whole Obamacare health care problem became a huge headache for me and I literally had nothing I can do except either pay the fine or buy health insurance I didn't want.
Obamacare was a huge problem for me because it fundamentally changed my life for no real reason. It didn't benefit me in any single way.
That was one major reason why I voted for Trump because Obamacare needs to be repealed it's just that simple, but that's my opinion.
When you combine that with Obama's foreign policy which I just don't agree with, and also his endless fight against gun control which I think was always in pointless battle that didn't actually solve any problems, you have a president I just didn't agree with.
I don't dislike Obama I think he was doing what he thought was right but at the end of the day I just didn't agree with any of his policies and then his health care plan was something that affected me personally in a negative.
Enter Hillary Clinton,
She literally was an Obama 2. And I just don't see any way that could have benefited and not only me but many people that I associate with and even friends and family that were caught in the same exact predicament with Obamacare.
I voted for Donald Trump because I do want change I want to different foreign policy I want alternative to Obamacare and frankly I just want change I don't want another Obama.
I have nothing against people of other races and in fact my best friend is Latino. And I have dated black women.
Donald Trump comments that he made during that Infamous video definitely shook me up a little bit in terms of his character, but when you look at the other side and all you see is Hillary Clinton who has a lifelong history of making extremely selfish choices to line her pocketbook and give her and her husband power over anything else and I really didn't see that as an issue anymore it basically became a wash.
I'll tell you right now if Bernie Sanders would have been on that ballot there is absolutely no way I could have taken Donald Trump has my vote. Bernie Sanders represented somebody who I actually thought was truthful and not only did he not give off that sense of just sleeping is that both Trump and Clinton had, I actually felt like he was fighting for people even if it meant that I didn't agree with what he was fighting for.
I will tell you exactly why I did it and why I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton and my reasons have nothing to do with racism or any of that bull crap that people seem to keep trying to make Trump voters turns out to be.
I'm a 26 year old white male. And I make around $20,000 a year. I consider myself to be a hard-working 20 something year old guy with a lot of my future but there were a few things in the end of Obama's administration that absolutely destroyed me, mainly Obamacare.
I fall into this small Gap that Obamacare absolutely did nothing for but destroy my wallet while giving me subpar health care that I not only didn't want but offered almost virtually no benefit to me.
Because I made too much to not be considered to be in poverty in my state I was not offered any subsidies on any kind of health care plan. My options are pretty much to buy a healthcare plan with extremely high deductibles that are almost like car insurance for a couple hundred bucks a month. He offered absolutely no real benefit to me medical wise.
But the thing that really set me off was that he basically bullied me into healthcare. It was pretty much either buy health care or be fine so suddenly I'm in the situation when ObamaCare got passed that my monthly budget was cut by a couple hundred dollars for something I only didn't want but I didn't need.
When you only make $20,000 a year and suddenly twelve to fourteen hundred dollars out of it is just proof gone for something you don't want it's extremely frustrating.
But this small Gap that Obamacare doesn't cover of this group people that make too much to be considered not in poverty but too little to actually afford any kind of Obamacare plans. It represents many people my age just trying to get out into the workforce and trying to figure out something that they want to do with their lives.
When you combine that with more and more companies cutting any kind of health care plans for their employees that are not full time, which I am one of, suddenly in the whole Obamacare health care problem became a huge headache for me and I literally had nothing I can do except either pay the fine or buy health insurance I didn't want.
Obamacare was a huge problem for me because it fundamentally changed my life for no real reason. It didn't benefit me in any single way.
That was one major reason why I voted for Trump because Obamacare needs to be repealed it's just that simple, but that's my opinion.
When you combine that with Obama's foreign policy which I just don't agree with, and also his endless fight against gun control which I think was always in pointless battle that didn't actually solve any problems, you have a president I just didn't agree with.
I don't dislike Obama I think he was doing what he thought was right but at the end of the day I just didn't agree with any of his policies and then his health care plan was something that affected me personally in a negative.
Enter Hillary Clinton,
She literally was an Obama 2. And I just don't see any way that could have benefited and not only me but many people that I associate with and even friends and family that were caught in the same exact predicament with Obamacare.
I voted for Donald Trump because I do want change I want to different foreign policy I want alternative to Obamacare and frankly I just want change I don't want another Obama.
I have nothing against people of other races and in fact my best friend is Latino. And I have dated black women.
Donald Trump comments that he made during that Infamous video definitely shook me up a little bit in terms of his character, but when you look at the other side and all you see is Hillary Clinton who has a lifelong history of making extremely selfish choices to line her pocketbook and give her and her husband power over anything else and I really didn't see that as an issue anymore it basically became a wash.
I'll tell you right now if Bernie Sanders would have been on that ballot there is absolutely no way I could have taken Donald Trump has my vote. Bernie Sanders represented somebody who I actually thought was truthful and not only did he not give off that sense of just sleeping is that both Trump and Clinton had, I actually felt like he was fighting for people even if it meant that I didn't agree with what he was fighting for.
Regardless of why they voted for him, they voted for a man who spewed a bunch of hateful rhetoric. They don't get to divorce themselves for that part.
Every single person who voted for trump SUPPORTED a man who said hateful, misogynist, racist things. It doesn't make THEM racist, per se, but they supported a racist and they have to own that. There is no distancing. None.
Edit - to the post above me. You don't sound like a racist. You sound reasonable. Regardless, you supported a racist. And you have to live with that. No matter how reasonable your rationalizations.
That's more than one man and one woman.
Yeah, that makes sense for sure. I figured it was the case. It seemed kind of short-sighted when Rachel Maddow went on that tear blaming third party voters for Hillary losing...was really bizarre.
Digital-Hero
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I remember reading Obama is the Anti-christ. smh
Krappadizzle
Member
No. It's not that simple. But just keep pretending you're morally superior.
Username1198
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At least I can turn of CNN .
I think there another tweet saying there are provisional / mail in ballots to be counted in California and other areas or some shit. I don't really know though.
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/796408692056981504
mrhyderager
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I have no idea what color or sex you are. I'm a white guy, and I tried to listen. I've got coworkers and acquaintances that supported him and I don't hate their guts or think they're racist by default.
Does Trump's victory send that message? Sure. But it could have been avoided by learning from disagreements instead of dismissing them off-hand. "Know Thy Enemy" - for lack of a better phrase. That's my point.
Dems thought this was won because Trump's an asshole, disregarding the insidiousness of demagoguery.
They couldn't even be bothered to shitpost, they were sitting there, being complacent, while Trump was having like 3 times as many rallies as them to try and hit the core voter. They treated the election as a foregone conclusion, that is their fault.
Is he talking about adam and Eve?
Is he making a prophecy from some fantasy novel? lol
I wish I could, but for the past 8 year Republicans failed to do this. Why make it easier than they already have it at this point? They will make life hell for us minorities and there will be 0 care or compromise for what the other side values. I love that Obama tried reaching across party lines to make the govt work together, but I'm also pissed off he didn't say fuck em till it was too late. I fear Trump will serve his first term with his cabinet and VP running the show like Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld and seeing the potential picks so far doesn't give me any confidence that any good will come out of this group.
SparkleMotion
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