Let's say we got a redo of 2016... what would you do differently politically?
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Convince Biden to run.
Count Dookkake
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Wouldn't vote for Clinton.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Biden had his mind made up when his son passed away. Wouldn't have his heart in it.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Be nicer to racists and gullible people so they wouldn't run into the arms of Trump
Cause it's all minorities' fault from what I've been reading lately
Cause it's all minorities' fault from what I've been reading lately
QuantumBro
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Strongly encourage Black Lives Matter to run a candidate in the Democratic presidential primaries.
Weird that the "tell it like it is" crowd can't handle a spade being called a fucking spade.
n0razi
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Yeah but how and would that really work?
Don't be deplorable.
But that's impossible for the racists and sexists who support Trump.
Yeah my heart breaks for the man. I wonder if he saw a Trump victory in the cards if that would have changed his mind at all. Everyone in DC thought Clinton would win. I also think Michelle could have beat trump so I'm hoping that race happens in 2020.
Same. I live in Texas, I couldn't do much more than vote.
n0razi
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I think most of GAF wanted Bernie at first... but how would you actually accomplish step 1? I can honestly say that most of the people I know campaigned hard, donated, and voted. What else is there?
Jangowuzhere
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Nuke the poll industry
I am convinced that the misleading lies built by the poll organizations truly destroyed the election. Telling people that Clinton has a 90% chance of winning the election only demotivated the democratic party. They're not going to show their support if they feel it isn't needed. The republican party felt motivated to prove these polls wrong, and they did just that.
I am convinced that the misleading lies built by the poll organizations truly destroyed the election. Telling people that Clinton has a 90% chance of winning the election only demotivated the democratic party. They're not going to show their support if they feel it isn't needed. The republican party felt motivated to prove these polls wrong, and they did just that.
Of course, we all messed up by calling a spade a spade
Don't be a deolorable ass
Morrigan Stark
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- Give Bernie the nomination. He might be a dirty socialist, but he's not a woman, and he doesn't have as much baggage and 30 years of slander against him, so who knows, he might have actually beaten Trump.
- Clinton should have campaigned more in "safe" states like Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. If she had won these states like the polls predicted, she'd have won the election despite losing Florida and Ohio. Perhaps she grew complacent, or perhaps she did all she could and everyone underestimated the number of rural fuckwits from these states, but who knows, if she had campaigned more in these states instead of taking them for granted and trying to set her sights in less attainable states, things might have gone differently. Maybe.
- Clinton should have campaigned more in "safe" states like Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. If she had won these states like the polls predicted, she'd have won the election despite losing Florida and Ohio. Perhaps she grew complacent, or perhaps she did all she could and everyone underestimated the number of rural fuckwits from these states, but who knows, if she had campaigned more in these states instead of taking them for granted and trying to set her sights in less attainable states, things might have gone differently. Maybe.
QuantumBro
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I'd also add that Clinton should've picked a VP candidate that wasn't white.
Well in my perfect fantasy, a BLM candidate steals minority support from Clinton and causes the party to be split between them and Sanders.
Hell even if Clinton won the primaries, I feel the Democratic party would've benefited from minorities feeling like their voices were being heard during the primaries, instead of five middle to older aged white people. Just remember that the Republican primaries had a much more diverse selection of candidates.
Well in my perfect fantasy, a BLM candidate steals minority support from Clinton and causes the party to be split between them and Sanders.
Hell even if Clinton won the primaries, I feel the Democratic party would've benefited from minorities feeling like their voices were being heard during the primaries, instead of five middle to older aged white people. Just remember that the Republican primaries had a much more diverse selection of candidates.
Glass Shark
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Why would it matter? None of the racist idiots that she was referring to would ever vote for her regardless of what she called them.
teruterubozu
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Fire Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
n0razi
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Yes those are ideal scenarios, but what would YOU have done differently that would have actually made a difference?
Buddha Beam
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There wasn't much I could have done differently. I suppose I could have canvassed for Hillary, but with a baby I just don't have the time. I did it for Obama and Kerry, and even house and senate candidates. Hell, I did it for fucking Erskin Bowles in NC back in '04. I voted for Bernie, so I did my small part.
The key would really be getting Bernie the nomination in the first place, as it should have been had it not been for the DNC tilting the scale. So I dunno... maybe lock DWS in a closet for a few months or something. Also, stopping the BernieBros smear from taking hold would have been important, but that obviously isn't on me, haha.
The key would really be getting Bernie the nomination in the first place, as it should have been had it not been for the DNC tilting the scale. So I dunno... maybe lock DWS in a closet for a few months or something. Also, stopping the BernieBros smear from taking hold would have been important, but that obviously isn't on me, haha.
Alcoremortis
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I would have changed my party affiliation to Democrat before voting in the primaries.
I live in a solid blue state and work 80hrs a week. I wouldn't have been able to do much other than donate a little more money to Hillary which I don't think would have made a difference.
Alternatively the deplorables can stop trying to restrict, dismantle and destroy our rights as American citizens. That would be nice.
Nothing. I can't do much and sadly I have to deal with a political party that is horrible on messaging, choosing candidates, or defending itself from bullshit. If anything being active taught me there are huge flaws with idealistic thinking you can change from within. Last night taught me certain groups of people would rather be deluded in thinking they will have jobs or that white supremacy is at and that it needs to be defended.
You're not human let alone a real american so those rights aren't for you.
You're not human let alone a real american so those rights aren't for you.
I would stop purity testers who try to blame shortcomings of their presumed candidate on others instead of talking about how we need to bring in economically disenfanchised blue collar voters from alienating people away from the party.
I mean, I'm pretty liberal, but we pushed away so many people with "if you're not 100% on board with me, you're my enemy" bullshit. The party further alienated Bernie voters instead of bringing them in, then assumed their vote was a given.
Chie Satonaka
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Nailed it.
Important to disregard our own humanity to appeal to those who hate us anyway. That's how we win them over to our side.
We just didn't see it. We didn't listen!
Epsilon-delta
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Secretly make Cruz win the primary instead of Trump.
Because I honestly think no one from the DNC could have beaten Trump last night.
Because I honestly think no one from the DNC could have beaten Trump last night.
Alligatorjandro
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Warn non believers just how racist and full of hate America is
Audioboxer
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For everyone with suggestions carry out what you feel you didn't do right the next election cycle and see how you get on. That's how these things work. Largely though all you can do is exercise your vote.
Political battles are fought and won by the candidates. I think the more valid question is what are the Democrats going to do differently next "redo"?
Political battles are fought and won by the candidates. I think the more valid question is what are the Democrats going to do differently next "redo"?
n0razi
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Crazy how so many liberals thought that Trump beating Cruz was a good thing for them
Despite an ever growing electorate population, Trump got the fewest Republican votes since the 2000 election. It's not like this was some inevitable outcome. 250k votes between Florida, Wisconsin and Michigan could have completely changed the results of the election. 8.1M democrats voted in those states, so it's a pretty marginal difference.
People need to actually vote.
People need to actually vote.
Darth Karja
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Not put a bet on Clinton winning when I didn't have money to make the bet
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