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[Sanke__]

We can undermine him at every opportunity and continue to signal to the rest of the world and society at large that none of this is okay.

Hell, the GOP has already been doing that for the past 8 years. What's good for the goose is good for the racist piece of shit.

But Obama is and has been a great president
I'm pretty sure people that voted for trump will realize they mad a mistake based on what he does not based on what people that voted for Hilary tell them

And no sane person thinks it is ok for someone that has said and done what he has to be president of the United States but it happened

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

As much as I dislike trump, people really need to save their energy, avoid a boy who cried wolf type situation, and wait until he actually does something before protesting.

Someone who spends over a year running a campaign of hate and legitimizing the viewpoints of bigots does not deserve to be given the benefit of the doubt. Part of the reason why we're here is because people chose to be passive instead of proactive.

 

[theultimo]

Don't really follow your logic

Him being elected was a terrible thing.
The impression it gives the world of the US is appalling
But I think it's important to focus on mitigating the damage he does in the future instead of dwelling on the past
He is the next president of the United States and it is too late to change that now

I think a good first step would be protesting the electoral college instead of him in general for now

The hardest part of the situation is that protests have been going on since the primaries.

Continued protesting will show not everyone wants to believe that because of voter suppression and EC there won't be a mandate with everyone.

Continued protesting also shows the true human problem with this situation.

Continued protesting will also support that not everyone want to go backwards.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

 

[Morts]

Are big protests still happening or are we just arguing about last night?

 

[Sanke__]

These protests are going to help maintain the collective fervor that will be necessary to get mass organization when that time comes. Freedom to assembly is more than just a utilitarian political move; it's a way to affirm connections, identities and the like. The minute people slide into this being the new normal is the minute a fascist future for this country becomes possible.

I just worry that while it helps anti trump people stay united it will exclude more people from joining as anti-trump

I am just trying to hope that he will not actually do some of the terrible things he has said he will

 

[Puck Beaverton]

"please lay down and accept it"

Orwellian societies really are a future with thinking like this

 

[RPGCrazied]

Damn right. He shouldn't even make it into the White House. Again, his own damn words.

 

[Seik]

Exact-fucking-ly.

 

[Damaniel]

He lost the popular vote, and several of the states that flipped had voter suppression by GOP voter ID laws.

That's not very legitimate.

It's still a win by the rules we've been using for over 200 years. We might want to consider changing the rules, but good luck getting a bunch of small states to give up the disproportionate power that the electoral college gives them.

What's the endgame of these protests? I'm all for the right to protest and I'm glad to see that people are legitimately angry, but he's not going to concede to Hillary, and Republicans will still control all three branches of government. There's literally zero reason for them to change any of their plans and there won't be any of the standard checks and balances to keep things sane.

What we need to do is actually get Democrats to vote, especially in non-Presidential elections. The Tea Party did what we couldn't, and look what they were able to do in just 8 years.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Anyone got a link to that tweet? That needs to be retweeted a thousand times over.

 

[PopeReal]

I just want to get to and from class/work, and protestors are making that essentially impossible. It doesn't make me sympathize with them, it makes me hate them.

I'm well aware of the state of the presidency. Now get out of the road so I can continue to make a living.

How about no?

Sorry, it is their right to protest.

 

[Quote]

It's still a win by the rules we've been using for over 200 years. We might want to consider changing the rules, but good luck getting a bunch of small states to give up the disproportionate power that the electoral college gives them.

What's the endgame of these protests? I'm all for the right to protest and I'm glad to see that people are legitimately angry, but he's not going to concede to Hillary, and Republicans will still control all three branches of government. There's literally zero reason for them to change any of their plans and there won't be any of the standard checks and balances to keep things sane.

What we need to do is actually get Democrats to vote, especially in non-Presidential elections. The Tea Party did what we couldn't, and look what they were able to do in just 8 years.

Did you really finish your "I don't understand the purpose" post with "the tea party did what we couldn't"

You're so close to a revelation, it's incredible.

 

[EmpressInYellow]

What's the endgame of these protests?

To continue to make it clear that a substantial segment of the country rejects him and everything he stands for, and further, that they will do everything in their power to undermine and oppose him and to send a message to the rest of the world that not all of America is content to lie down and let white supremacy and proto-fascism ascend unchallenged.

 

[ReAxion]

Are big protests still happening or are we just arguing about last night?

it's surprisingly easy to find out

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-protests-idUSKBN1343CO?il=0

(0.54 seconds)

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

it's surprisingly easy to find out

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-protests-idUSKBN1343CO?il=0

(0.54 seconds)

I expect (hope) that these protests explode in volume over the weekend.

 

[fixedpoint]

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[SilentRob]

For anyone else living in Berlin, there is going to be a protest on Saturday: https://www.facebook.com/events/200385697073120/

We have to show that we will not let this happen in Germany. This is the time to go out and speak your mind.

 

[ryseing]

Had this discussion with my father (78) this morning.

He just could not understand why these young people were protesting...He said, and believed, "They just want free college tuition."

I stated, no Dad, they are disappointed, frustrated, and angry that Trump was elected. I watched the protests, I didn't see one sign that said "Socialism Now!" or "Free-Tuition!" While many of those protestors may support those things, that was not what was playing out in the street.

Trump said a lot of terrible things about many people and advocated some insane solutions to real issues....

My Dad in response, They should accept this election, Trump was elected....

My response: Dad, of all people, that group understands Trump was elected. That's why they are out there. They don't have to be happy about it.


This conversation or some variation of it will be played out across living rooms and TV for the next day or so Im betting.

I had this conversation with my parents earlier.

I know Trump won. I'm not protesting that. I'm demonstrating that bigotry and hatred aren't acceptable, even if someone who has those qualities was elected to the highest office.

"You should wait until he actually does something in office"- he hasn't given us enough of a reason with the things he has said?

Now is the time to protest. We need to send a message to everyone, including Trump himself.

 

[MUnited83]

"please lay down and accept it"

Orwellian societies really are a future with thinking like this

Shit, there's already people on this very forum that looked at Turkey, and their reaction was " Erdogan was democratically elected, so this is fine, just democracy at work" (mind you, Erdogan is destroying democracy in Turkey more and more with each passing day) and that if you think that people should be pushing against that bullshit, you're being "anti-democratic".

 

[OniBarubary]

Shit, there's already people on this very forum that looked at Turkey, and their reaction was " Erdogan was democratically elected, so this is fine, just democracy at work" (mind you, Erdogan is destroying democracy in Turkey more and more with each passing day) and that if you think that people should be pushing against that bullshit, you're being "anti-democratic".

One of my best friends is Turkish and she was literally in tears that a country she escaped from is now the closest representative of what the one she ran to will become.

Apparently those Turks protesting and getting tear gassed were just...I don't even fucking know anymore. Fuck.

 

[Chinpoko_Master]

Thanks for fucking up my future. I fucking hope it was worth it.

Np.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

Np.

I hope you lose everything and everyone you ever loved.

 

[Chococat]

Untrue.



The whole point of a protest is to inconvenience and make shit difficult until you are forced to deal with and address a lot of problems that you could otherwise ignore or handwave. That's the point of them, that normal discourse and rational explanation didn't work so now we fuck shit up until people are forced to do something.

If you honestly believe that advances in civil liberties and rights as well as social and political progress were only achieved by people politely standing on sidewalks and holding hands and being nonthreatening to white people you are remembering a very inaccurate and sanitary view of history.

My response to people being inconvenienced by protests is "Good"

Perhaps I should clarify? Non-violence should be the goal.

Blocking traffic is non-violent to me. Having camps like Occupying Wallstreet is non-violent. BLM protest are fine. Arab Springs are fine.

Disruption is fine. Violence is not unless it is to defend.

I'm against the deliberate destruction of property and outright attacking people as part of the agenda.

I get that mob mentality take over sometimes. And I don't blame protesters when some outsiders use the chaos for their own needs.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

The best thing to do is to boycott Trump's businesses until he's worth nothing and his legacy is ruined. Make his Presidency the worst decision he's ever made.

 

[Bronx-Man]

"please lay down and accept it"

Orwellian societies really are a future with thinking like this

They're not the ones that have to worry about being shot or deported.

 

[Lulubop]

Np.

what an awful drive by post

 

[jaxpunk]

I hope you lose everything and everyone you ever loved.

lol get banned

 

[MogCakes]

what an awful drive by post

They are being honest, we can give them that. The true attitude of slightly less than half of American voters.

 

[MUnited83]

lol get banned

I mean, he's just translating what Chinpoko_Master wanted to say.

 

[KageMaru]

Np.

Nice shit posting there.

I hope you lose everything and everyone you ever loved.

Whoa hey, I understand you're mad but try not to say something that'll get you banned.

 

[ronaldthump]

Np.

disgusting.

 

[Quote]

haha, Trump's team is already considering JP Morgan dudes for treasury, but yeah lets wait and see before protests.

lol get banned

Uh, it's a legitimate worry. Take it up with people who voted Trump.

 

[Chinpoko_Master]

I hope you lose everything and everyone you ever loved.

You know what? I regret posting that. I'm sorry. It was an awful thing to say.

 

[SmackAttack]

We want you to tell us why you voted for Trump.

You can ask and ask, as I have for so long, and if any of them decide to answer you, you'll get Obamacare and maybe something on illegals but they'll always avoid the big question. None of them will touch the racist, xenophobic stuff. They'll avoid all the bad shit we really want to know their opinions on because they know. You'll maybe, maybe get some bullshit about how Trump will bring unity because class warfare and BLM will go away or something. Oh, and then your intelligence might be insulted.

That's what you'll get. Keep asking though because I sure will be.

Np.

Edit: I see you apologized. Good on ya.

 

[Darryl M R]

Can I make an appeal that the last few posts don't get looked at for potential bans. People are feeling like their entire livelihoods are going to be ruined and posting drive by posts or fanning the flames will result in blunt and emotion-filled responses.


To add to this thread: Please link any information about more city protest. I'm hoping to join in this weekend.

 

[Enduin]

Do as I say, not as I said.

 

[Bunta]

Thanks for fucking up my future. I fucking hope it was worth it.

Sorry you feel that way. I wouldn't have voted for Trump over Hillary if I didn't think it was for the better of the country.

I hope it was worth it for some kind of weird masochism, because whatever you wanted to get out of his presidency, you're not going to get it.

Perhaps not, I most likely wouldn't have gotten anything I wanted out of a Hillary presidency.

I'm not going to bash you, but I am curious about what you are hoping for out of a Trump presidency. I would genuinely love to know.

We want you to tell us why you voted for Trump.

Hopefully strengthen the economy. Improve our foreign relations (Obama and Hillary have been a disaster in this category). Root out some of the corruption in government; the establishment (Dems and Repubs) has done a great job of shitting things up. Repeal the ACA. Improve our border security and immigration policies. Appoint Justices that will uphold the constitution (yes, including the 2nd amendment). Lastly, as for what I can think of off the top of my head, I don't believe Hillary was the right candidate to lead our country.

Also, in my opinion, everyone is over reacting and whipping themselves into a frenzy over results of the election.
I don't expect to convince anyone here of anything in regards to Trump or politics. I voted for my own reasons.

 

[blankempathy]

I mean shouldn't people try to be better than the man they're condemning though? Isn't that the point? I mean you're using the words of a racist/bigot/sexist to justify your point?

 

[Kinyou]

I mean shouldn't people try to be better than the man they're condemning though? Isn't that the point?

I was about to say that. Isn't posting it in support of the protest implying that this was a sensible tweet?

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

I mean shouldn't people try to be better than the man they're condemning though? Isn't that the point?

Why do you see the act of protesting to be the worse behavior? The point isn't that Trump was wrong in that tweet.

 

[Parch]

March, but please stay safe. The message gets lost if violence and vandalism get the attention. And it's a pretty important message that needs to be sent.

I hope everybody who protests actually voted. Wouldn't it be kinda hypocritical if they didn't?

 

[blankempathy]

Why do you see the act of protesting to be the worse behavior? The point isn't that Trump was wrong in that tweet.

I'm merely pointing out that some folks maybe shouldn't be using his tweet as a way to justify the protesting. saying "well they would of done it too" is a weak excuse. If people want to protest thats their right. I'm not saying it isn't.

 

[catbird]

Probably addressed but I truly don't see how these protests are undemocratic. Trump claims he will represent all Americans. Well, what better way to get our voices heard?

Just because we lost the White House doesn't mean we should be silenced.

Trump is a sexual predator and a misogynist. Pence wants to destroy women's rights. Just because other people are OK enough with this to vote for these morally reprehensible individuals I should be? It's not OK.

I am attending a women's-rights protest/vigil in Philadelphia tonight. Hope all goes well.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

I'm merely pointing out that some folks maybe shouldn't be using his tweet as a way to justify the protesting. saying "well they would of done it too" is a weak excuse. If people want to protest thats their right. I'm not saying it isn't.

It's not saying that. It's pointing out the contradictions in the ways white America views protesting depending on the causes and demographics involved.

 

[Captain Zyrain]

http://www.cnn.com/election/results

CNN is now "projecting" Trump might win the popular vote too.. would this change anything for the protests?

 

[Seik]

I'm merely pointing out that some folks maybe shouldn't be using his tweet as a way to justify the protesting. saying "well they would of done it too" is a weak excuse. If people want to protest thats their right. I'm not saying it isn't.

I get your point.

It's more an answer for those on GAF saying ''These kids should go home, the elections are done!'' pointing out that their new god wanted to do the same shit when Obama passed.

It's not a way to justify the protestations, but to show that their gold-plated president wanted to start a revolt himself as well.

 

[catbird]

http://www.cnn.com/election/results

CNN is now "projecting" Trump might win the popular vote too.. would this change anything for the protests?

I don't know. For me, personally, no. I am protesting to get my voice heard, not to change the results of the election. We have to stay engaged.

 

[rac]

Root out some of the corruption in government; the establishment (Dems and Repubs) has done a great job of shitting things up.

But his cabinet is gonna be made up of the republican establishment.

 

[bob_arctor]

http://www.cnn.com/election/results

CNN is now "projecting" Trump might win the popular vote too.. would this change anything for the protests?

Not at all. Lots of terrible things in this country were once popular and had majority support. Trump ran a campaign that harkened back to those times, in fact.