sixteen-bit
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especially if there's disappointment at the end, lol
Rumor Mill (TAKE WITH GRAIN OF SALT): Marvel vs Capcom 4 revealing at PSX/Capcom Cup
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especially if there's disappointment at the end, lol
TRUE ORDER
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I keep thinking what would it be like to not have any X-Men/FF character in the game, and it wouldn't be good. I mean, they are like staples in the franchise, it would be a very harsh move from Marvel if it does happen (if 4 is real) just to promote the MCU.
Maleko Saint
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I think you mean character building.
TRUE ORDER
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I don't have the exact post but one of the people who talked about the rumors/things he heard said that the game would try to go back to what MvC was (ala 2v2) IIRC
Been trying to keep up with the thread as best I can. (with my Sigma hopes for good luck. Have another!)
So some of these rumors are really ally interesting to me, especially it being closer to Mvc2. As much as I tried I could not get into 3 at all. I loved a lot of characters they added and some thing but hated a lot more (button scheme, otg being a mechanic instead of being a cool game interaction ie. Hit box of a move hitting the hurt box of a downed opponent like magneto 5 fierce, and the way they applied x factor).
Ive been hoping forever to go back to the Mvc2 button scheme but don't put too much hope into it.
No x men sounds nuts. COTA damn near started the versus series and Def was the first crossover (secret akuma). I really hope this is false. No mag/storm/sent/wolv is crazy. I was pissed when they didn't have cyclops in.
I would be okay with 2v2 +1 as long as the assists are good or if you could (like skullgirls) assign custom assists.
I hope they don't add any stupid other mechanics like gems. Just give us a damn solid fighter and don't rely on gimmicks.
I also wouldn't mind x factor coming back but I thought personally it was terrible design to have it give different bonuses to different characters. Should have been a one time use, flat 10% bonus to stats (number is arbitrary).
Also pls cable.
Can't wait to see.
So some of these rumors are really ally interesting to me, especially it being closer to Mvc2. As much as I tried I could not get into 3 at all. I loved a lot of characters they added and some thing but hated a lot more (button scheme, otg being a mechanic instead of being a cool game interaction ie. Hit box of a move hitting the hurt box of a downed opponent like magneto 5 fierce, and the way they applied x factor).
Ive been hoping forever to go back to the Mvc2 button scheme but don't put too much hope into it.
No x men sounds nuts. COTA damn near started the versus series and Def was the first crossover (secret akuma). I really hope this is false. No mag/storm/sent/wolv is crazy. I was pissed when they didn't have cyclops in.
I would be okay with 2v2 +1 as long as the assists are good or if you could (like skullgirls) assign custom assists.
I hope they don't add any stupid other mechanics like gems. Just give us a damn solid fighter and don't rely on gimmicks.
I also wouldn't mind x factor coming back but I thought personally it was terrible design to have it give different bonuses to different characters. Should have been a one time use, flat 10% bonus to stats (number is arbitrary).
Also pls cable.
Can't wait to see.
Secret Character
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No X-Men.
I'm actually looking forward to the Capcom side of things more than the Marvel roster. Knowing that all of my favorite characters have zero chance of making it in (Doom, Magneto, Sentinel, etc.) it will be more interesting to see the Capcom side.
TheDinoman
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I'm not saying for sure that the X-men are out, but, uh, how can I say this: The people saying "Wolverine CAN'T be excluded from this game!" and "No X-Men? Fake!" kinda sort of remind me of when we all thought the idea of MVC3 not having Mega Man as a playable character was absurd.
And look how that turned out.
And look how that turned out.
Unspeakable Evil
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MvC without X-men or FF characters...
This is what Neoxon tried to worn ya about but no one was listening...
That game was made before the ban started.
It's probably a good idea to look at that game.
Here are all Contest of Champions characters: http://www.d-heroes.com/marvel-contest-of-champions-hero-list/
Came out late 2014.
Here are all Contest of Champions characters: http://www.d-heroes.com/marvel-contest-of-champions-hero-list/
Came out late 2014.
Secret Character
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Release date. There was some kind of embargo date on using certain characters for marketing and games. Basically, you can't use mutants and Fantastic Four sourced characters any more. UMvC3, Contest of Champions, Deadpool, and Marvel Heroes were all before the embargo date.
Already Torn
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There's no reason to believe that 2v2 thing right?
no reason to believe anything
Then Kang the conqueror. Everyone needs to get shot.
Not really, at least not right now. Same for the rumor is general.
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OmegaSmash
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No, because we don't even know if this game is real. But logically, it's easy to see why going back to 2 on 2 is possible and even attractive.
His movie rights are owned by Fox. But he was in Avengers Assemble (likely since they weren't aware of the rights at the time), so maybe.
It would feel really weird going back to 2 v 2 after MVC3, but, eh, TVC worked perfectly, so it wouldn't be a deal breaker.
If it truly is 2 v 2 + Assist, i hope it's like KoF 99 and 2000 rather than the original MVC, where you pic 3 normal characters and you select which one is the assist.
I wouldnt mind MvC1 style if we got some MH assists. Some Brachydios, Zinogre, Nargacuga..so good
Except mvc3 was well balanced for a Vs game. Mvc1 was broken as shit compared to it
Except mvc3 was well balanced for a Vs game. Mvc1 was broken as shit compared to it
Why even make a Marvel game then?
OmegaSmash
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The thing is, TvC was still tag assist like MvC2/3.
Believe it or not, UMvC3 wasn't nearly as broken as its predecessors.
Its a bunch of second hand nonsense
I definitely play. Hell, I played UMvC3 non-stop for the last month (& SFV since it launched). I was really into it for the first 2-3 years.
DerekOfTheDykes
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This mindset is kind of absurd to me.
"You want Marvel to be BALANCED? WHY?!?"
As if terrible balancing can ever be anything but a massive detriment to a fighting game from almost every standpoint.
EDIT: Side note, in the extremely unlikely chance that the 2v2 thing isn't bullshit... why do there have to be a separate roster of assist characters like MvC1? The assists could literally just be picked from the roster like MvC2 and MvC3, just with a dedicated assist character instead of a third character. Honestly, that's both easier AND preferable to me if that "leak" has to be true.
The Abominable Snowman
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I still don't get the 'No XMen' fear mongering. While it's true Marvel has been smudging Mutants out for a while, there's still very little evidence that the videogame properties are being given the same treatment. If anything, I think it's apparent Avengers have far and away become the more popular group which makes the diminishing of the XMen stand out a little more, but I doubt Marvel has been actively trying to end the XMen.
Mvc1 was in an era before patches were a thing. And regardless, it is much easier to balance a 2v2 game. Going up to 3v3 drastically increases the difficulty of balancing.
I don't think cheap stuff adds to the fun of the Marval games.
Jawmuncher
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On the same side though there's no evidence that says they're in good graces either.
All of the games featuring Xmen atm, were either grandfathered in ormade back when xmen were in games.
I mean, pretty much every post-CoC game got screwed over in this way, so there's reason to be concerned. But at the same time, recent events do give us a reason to be hopeful.
ãInaba Residentã
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A balanced Marvel game is something I don't want
You haven't checked the mobile games, have you?
Also there were evidence of Disney cockblocking X-men characters for Disney Infinity
Oh yeah, didn't Marvel cock-block Wolverine for 2.0 & the Maximoff Twins (Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch) for 3.0?
It's mostly a joke, BUT I love seeing people figure out something that is on the brink of being broken and then how to beat it. You need a game with a lot of freedom to have something like that and I think that is actually what people want from it.
That doesn't change the fact that it is much easier (and hence likely to occur) to balance a 2v2 game vs a 3v3 game. If not in the initial release, at least through patches. Sniffing out the broken stuff is a much easier task with far fewer combinations.
Karsticles
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In theory, if the game is 2v2, I think the main reason would be to solve the "third character" problem without X-Factor. If both characters have assist support, then you are always on roughly equal grounds with your opponent.
OmegaSmash
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Marvel's appeal is the openness of it's gameplay, the cheap stuff is just the side effect of that.
But half of the appeal of Mahvel is the 3v3 insanity (which evolved from the initial 2v2 of MvC1) & the openness of the combo system.
sixteen-bit
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I hope there's a way to punish bad assist calls tho.
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