Unholy Night: New fighting game by ex-SNK... for Super Nintendo???

Sega Saturn would've been a stretch given that there hasn't yet been an indie Saturn game released. The SNES at least had Nightmare Busters and a few more on the horizon.
 
So...the largest games on the SNES were Tales of Phantasia and Star Ocean, both on 6 MB carts.

This game is on a 32 MB cart.

I've often thought that you could've gotten a lot more out of the SNES with larger files. Let's see if that's the case!
This game is on a 32 Megabit (4 Megabyte) cartridge, which is the same size as Super Street Fighter 2 or Donkey Kong Country 2. ToP and SO were were on 48 Megabit cartridges which translates to 6 Megabyte.
 
This game is on a 32 Megabit (4 Megabyte) cartridge, which is the same size as Super Street Fighter 2 or Donkey Kong Country 2. ToP and SO were were on 48 Megabit cartridges which translates to 6 Megabyte.

In those games' cases (ToP and SO) weren't the larger file sizes due to sound samples and speech?
 
In those games' cases (ToP and SO) weren't the larger file sizes due to sound samples and speech?
Likely, yes.
ToP's into had a complete song while SO's intro was completely voiced (in English no less) and looked quite cinematic too.
I don't know if the extra space was used specifically for these things, though. There are many other games on the SNES with comparable amounts of digital sound effects or other special stuff that make it hard to understand how that particular game fit on such a small cartridge.
Like Another World/Out of this World or Starfox for example. I will never understand how these games fit on 8 or so Megabit cartridges.
 
To whom it may concern: megabyte is abbreviated with the symbol MB, megabit with Mb. Using the wrong symbol is like screaming fire in a crowded theatre.
 

v1oz

Member
With flash memory being so cheap I wonder why they are limiting themselves to a 32 meg cart? They should have gone for a larger than Neogeo cart size, I've love to see how far the SNES could be pushed with larger modern carts for more animation, larger sprites, better backgrounds and recorded music.
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
The story revolves around the battle of the darkness clan (consist of vampire,werewolves and other creatures) and the Hunters (the people who hunt them obviously).

The darkness clan are slowly becoming irrelevant due to advance of technology and they never stop attacking humans. They are trying to make a come back and they have stole the coffin which store the strongest vampire in existance and now they are trying to resurrect him. So now the battle between the two sides has intensified.

There are 6 characters and a story mode, and each characters has got 8 special moves. 3 attack buttons and 1 charge button, guard cancel, super move, super jump and all the standard stuffs.

Releasing this year winter
 

WarRock

Member
People shitting on SNES fighters like Power Rangers/Endless Duel doesn't exist or hold up smh...

Sega Saturn would've been a stretch given that there hasn't yet been an indie Saturn game released. The SNES at least had Nightmare Busters and a few more on the horizon.
There is always the Dreamcast.
 

v1oz

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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/wwg.co...ext-year-to-the-super-nintendo/?client=safari
 

Ninja Dom

Member
With flash memory being so cheap I wonder why they are limiting themselves to a 32 meg cart? They should have gone for a larger than Neogeo cart size, I've love to see how far the SNES could be pushed with larger modern carts for more animation, larger sprites, better backgrounds and recorded music.

Or a CD Rom drive.
 

Dambrosi

Banned
Welp, I just bought a modded SuFami
not
just for this.

I wonder if I'll even have a chance to pre-order this game, since (I imagine) it'll be printed in pretty limited quantities. I imagine an SD2SNES will be my friend in the worst case scenario.
 

BlueTieCasual

Neo Member
Anybody know what other games were shown off at this exhibition?

The exhibition itself was called RETRO.HK and it was more of a retro games fair and gallery, so there wasn't anything else brand new that would be of note (to my knowledge.)

Oh. I was also an assistant organiser for the event, so I'll ask them for pictures and videos if people are interested.
 

colinp

Banned
The exhibition itself was called RETRO.HK and it was more of a retro games fair and gallery, so there wasn't anything else brand new that would be of note (to my knowledge.)

Oh. I was also an assistant organiser for the event, so I'll ask them for pictures and videos if people are interested.

Absolutely!

Congrats on what looked like a fun show.
 

Ninja Dom

Member
The exhibition itself was called RETRO.HK and it was more of a retro games fair and gallery, so there wasn't anything else brand new that would be of note (to my knowledge.)

Oh. I was also an assistant organiser for the event, so I'll ask them for pictures and videos if people are interested.

Good work on the event.

Yes there seems to be a lot of interest in Unholy Night. Could you also ask about a price and release quantities too? Thanks.
 

Ninja Dom

Member
I can't get excited for this at all. SNES fighters just don't hold up.

Agreed. Final Fight 3 could have been cool, if it weren't just for SNES.

This could be different because we have a team of people who know exactly what they're doing when it comes to making fighters. And they're totally aware of all the retro platforms they could have chosen (they're ex Neo Geo staff) and believe that they can make all of this happen on the SNES.
 

BlueTieCasual

Neo Member
Absolutely!

Congrats on what looked like a fun show.

Good work on the event.

Yes there seems to be a lot of interest in Unholy Night. Could you also ask about a price and release quantities too? Thanks.

Thanks for the compliments! It went amazingly well. Also while I wait on speaking with the other organisers to get in contact with the developers, I thought people might be interested in a little video footage. It's not direct, as it's part of an overview video of RETRO.HK from a local news site, but you can see a little bit of it beginning at the 36 second mark.

http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/realtime/supplement/20161210/56026476
 
I can't get excited for this at all. SNES fighters just don't hold up.

Agree very much with this. Fighting games on 16-bit consoles are not terribly fun to play these days. I know, I own a couple of them.

SNK stay winning.

If this is indeed the team behind KoF 98 and 02, then some decent quality is to be expected.

Nintendo bro... the rabbit hole is DEEP

I don't know why some Nintendo fans are so insecure sometimes. Stop acting like Nintendo is being persecuted or something.

I would say that if any older console was getting a new 2D fighter, it should be the Saturn. That will forever feel like the "fighter's system" to me—I mean, outside of the obvious choice NeoGeo.

If by "older" you mean 5th gen and earlier, then yes Saturn takes the 2D fighting game crown by an extra long and wide country mile. That 4Meg cart... godlike!

But anything beyond that, and for me it's a toss up between the Dreamcast and the PS2.

Damn. Even the SNES will have more third-party support than Wii U in 2017.

Hot damn Nate, this is savage... LMAO.

Still got nothing but love for my Wii U.
 

Khaz

Member
Sega Saturn would've been a stretch given that there hasn't yet been an indie Saturn game released. The SNES at least had Nightmare Busters and a few more on the horizon.

Saturn has a pesky protection preventing releasing games that could run on unmodified hardware. I don't think even SEGA can print legit discs today.
 

mollipen

Member
If by "older" you mean 5th gen and earlier, then yes Saturn takes the 2D fighting game crown by an extra long and wide country mile. That 4Meg cart... godlike!

But anything beyond that, and for me it's a toss up between the Dreamcast and the PS2.

Well, I think it's that the Saturn was the first console to both excel at fighting games and to become the default console for fighters in a generation. That was the point when we could finally have fighting games look and feel like they did in the arcade, it became the "home" for them in that era, and it was the point that SNK finally returned to publishing on home consoles.

So, yeah, later consoles actually had bigger or better varieties of fighters—like I'd probably take the DC over the Saturn to be honest if I had to pick one—but the Saturn will forever be the fighting game console to me because of those reasons. Plus, to this day it still has fighters that I loved that never made it elsewhere (Groove on Fight, proper Asuka 120%, etc.).
 

AdanVC

Member
WAT!? That is awesome! It'll be great if this is the beginning of a new trend of releasing new games in old consoles... Wich I don't think it'll be a huge success on the business side. Literally nobody would buy those games except collectors that have those consoles available :(
 
WAT!? That is awesome! It'll be great if this is the beginning of a new trend of releasing new games in old consoles... Wich I don't think it'll be a huge success on the business side. Literally nobody would buy those games except collectors that have those consoles available :(

I'm hoping they sell the ROM so I can throw it in my Everdrive. But that'll mean it'll also be playable on an emulator, so people won't need the physical console.

There's also a handful of devs that release games on the MVS/AVS and Dreamcast, so there's some sort of market there.
 
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