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"They'd never shut down a ROM hack" they said.
Merry fucking Christmas.
"They'd never shut down a ROM hack" they said.
Merry fucking Christmas.
Pokemon Prism (Crystal ROM Hack in Development for 8 years) C&D'd by Nintendo
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Bony Manifesto
Member
Who said that? Surely they'd be more likely to shut down a ROM hack on account of it requiring people seek out ROMs of their games...
Honestly, what do these people expect? They are infringing on someone else's trademark. Before wasting years and thousands of hours of blood, sweat, and tears, people really need to do their due diligence legally.
They could copy all of Pokemon's mechanics and keep a similar GBC aesthetic and do something new. Present it as a new type of Pokemon-like experience and I'm sure many will give it a shot. Look at Stardew Balley.
They could copy all of Pokemon's mechanics and keep a similar GBC aesthetic and do something new. Present it as a new type of Pokemon-like experience and I'm sure many will give it a shot. Look at Stardew Balley.
They have a trailer on Youtube with over a million views from 2 months ago. It was out in the open.
the fanboys
when Project M got shut down it was "they'd never shut down a fan game!"
then AM2R got shut down. "well they'd never shut down a rom hack!"
and here we are. less than a week from release. Just another reason why announcing a release date just isn't wise for this kind of thing.
I wouldn't be surprised if they straight up raided some of the more popular Super Mario World or Pokemon ROM hack websites at this point.
dickroach
Member
this has been in development foooorever. and it seemed there was a precedent set that Nintendo didn't care about rom hacks. sucks for the people making it.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
This happened to Uranium I think, no?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I don't blame Nintendo.
What did you expect??
What did you expect??
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Not terribly surprising; can't really blame 'em for protecting their property.
Not sure why they kept the original "Pokemon" name though. Come up with a different title and I doubt Nintendo would have cared.
Not sure why they kept the original "Pokemon" name though. Come up with a different title and I doubt Nintendo would have cared.
Cheshire_Buddha
Member
Yeah, as soon as I heard this was getting released I knew it was only a matter of time before they shut it down.
Pandora012
Member
Wonder why this is different from all the other Pokemon rom hacks. I'm guessing because of the spotlight?
MaximumSpider
Banned
Probably should have done a stealth launch instead of announcing a release date
ONLYUSEmeFEET
Member
I'm pretty sure there's a spot on Nintendo's website to send their legal team links of rom sites/hacks/fangames/etc.
If the creators were only distributing an IPS patch, I'm not sure if Nintendo could C&D them for it. If they were distributing a patched ROM, then this should have come as no surprise. Wish I followed this project sooner, regardless. A shame Nintendo's crack down on YouTube channels and fangames related to Pokemon happened during the series' 20th Anniversary.
dickroach
Member
Uranium was released as a standalone game
I wonder if being in Youtube/Streaming sites is a potential source to being C&D'd. It's so far more recognizable than be in a random page.
If there's a chance that a causal could end up confusing it for an official product then you can bet your sweet ass that it's gonna get shut down.
Had it been its own game, meaning without the Pokémon branding and characters and acted as a homage toward the Pokémon series then it wouldn't have been shut down.
"Mother 4" will also be likely to get the shutdown treatment unless the team abandon the Mother IP and make its own original game.
Had it been its own game, meaning without the Pokémon branding and characters and acted as a homage toward the Pokémon series then it wouldn't have been shut down.
"Mother 4" will also be likely to get the shutdown treatment unless the team abandon the Mother IP and make its own original game.
Anything other than "Its out! Go get it here:" is just asking for trouble.
Cheshire_Buddha
Member
I'll never understand why these creators won't do that.
Also, I'm surprised they haven't shut down Mother 4 yet.
They get excited and passionate about it and want to show it to all the fans and feel good about positive response that their project is sure to get if it done well.
JB2448
Member
That's the big thing. Stealth releases can build on word of mouth if the quality is there, and even if a fan game does get C&D'd after release, once it's out there on the Internet, it's out there regardless of what happens next.
dickroach
Member
that's been in development for so long; they're so foolish for keeping the Mother 4 name. that's supposed to be a standalone game + not a romhack.
it should be called anything else and they should release it on Steam for a couple of bucks
BigEmil
Junior Member
Can't he just leak the game and blame it on his shitty pc which doesn't have an antivirus?
They could maybe share it with someone on a computer elsewhere who will share it everywhere and just say to Nintendo that's just a old build that was distributed freely before and now people who had the 'old build' files started sharing it
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
A ROM hack? That's pretty much unprecedented.
Jawbreaker
Member
Unsurprisingly shitty move on Nintendo's part regarding their fans.
ShironRedshift
Member
That seems rather tenuous logic considering their have been Pokemon ROM hacks for like years upon years and this has never been a problem at all because surprise, kids aren't fucking morons after all and can tell the difference between official products on store-shelves and fanmade products (of course, then there's bootlegs and stuff where this stuff is sold on actual carts, but bootlegs will always be a problem of some sort or another, fangames or no fangames and are their own whole separate problem). What's changed between now and say 2004, when Pokemon Brown was originally released, no problem? Or all the other FR/LG hacks, or the R/S ones, or the D/P ones? Nintendo never had a problem with any of those, and let them sit for over a decade.
Now suddenly they're "concerned" about people being misled or whatever? Please, don't make up BS excuses for them that quickly fall apart? If Pokemon Brown didn't cause any confusion in 2004 (since you have to seek this stuff out) or any of the other long, detailed rich history of Pokemon rom-hacks and Nintendo was alright with all of those for over a decade, it's the same here. Any justification quickly falls to pieces because of their past inaction, even if they try and clean up that mess and get rid of all the others as well because the point remains, what's changed? Something clearly has, and it ain't how much "confusion" these games are causing or whatever.
jediyoshi
Member
..More likely than shipping copywritten assets themselves? Literally the opposite by virtue of them only needing to distribute everything but that. Using a Pokemon avatar is more grounds for infringement than a hack.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Yass get them. 🔫
A bunch of people. A homebrew dev revealed a 3D Link's Awakening romhack of Ocarina of Time and there were fair number of responses that Nintendo never goes after romhacks. Now here we are.
Keyser Soze
Member
Nintendo did the right thing... the people making the hack did not.
The correct course of action is to keep it quiet and release the flies. Then Nintendo can legally rebel against it. The files will be out there, people can still get it, but Nintendo still did the right thing for them.
To flaunt the game before people have access is only asking for problems
It is worth noting that Nintendo, and other companies that are forced to take legal action, usually let people work on projects for a huge length of time before steping in. They have to make the diskish move of stoping them, but usually do so very late in the project, and many times let the game be released first.
The correct course of action is to keep it quiet and release the flies. Then Nintendo can legally rebel against it. The files will be out there, people can still get it, but Nintendo still did the right thing for them.
To flaunt the game before people have access is only asking for problems
It is worth noting that Nintendo, and other companies that are forced to take legal action, usually let people work on projects for a huge length of time before steping in. They have to make the diskish move of stoping them, but usually do so very late in the project, and many times let the game be released first.
Pandora012
Member
Yeah, that was not a smart idea. There are loads of hacked pokemon games, if they didn't announce this probably would not be happening.
Coffee Dog
Banned
They said when they announced it that they would do this if nintendo came after them.
metsallica
Member
Good, shame they didn't send the notice on Christmas. Joking hyperbole aside, these people are talented and should be contributing something unique to the world, not playing with toys they don't have the rights to use. Don't have any sympathy when something like this happens... really not sure what they expected. Or what anyone expects. Do this, flaunt it? Get caught. Do it at all, risk getting caught. The ONLY reason things like this don't get shut down is because the company who owns the IP deems it not worthy of their time.