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[Bounceounce]

No. And I blame Jay for saying his influence and fame should make him one of the best rappers because fame and influence are highly subjective and shouldn't be relevant to how great of an artist you were. Jay and Kayne both are probably way more famous than they have any right to be if we are going by how strong their musical outputs have been recently so the "I'm great because I'm famous" argument is nonsense. If we are being honest, Kayne is nowhere near the top 10, not even sure if he's in the top 20. Definitely a top 5 producer tho.

What?
Kanye's most recent output are two of the greatest albums of the decade and an average album.
What's the issue here?
Not going to address your Hov slander.

 

[Servbot24]

Anyone who jumps to "not a great rapper but he's a great producer" does not understand the music of Kanye West.

 

[Andrew Korenchkin]

JAY Z SUCKS!!!!!

 

[Bounceounce]

JAY Z SUCKS!!!!!

You can't bait me any more.
"In this manila envelope, the results of my insanity
Quack said I crossed the line between real life and fantasy
Can it be the same one on covers with Warren Buffett
Was ducking the undercovers, was warring with motherfuckers?
Went from warring to Warren, undercovers to covers
If you believe in that sort of luck your screws need adjusting
In the world of no justice and black ladies on the back of buses
I'm the immaculate conception of rappers-slash-hustlers
My God, it's so hard to conceive, but it all falls perfect
I'm like autumn is to trees, the doc interrupted
He scribbled a prescription for some Prozac
He said, "take that for your mustard
Boy, you must be off your rocker if you think
You'll make it off the strip before they 'Pac ya
Nigga, you gotta be psychotic, or
Mixing something potent with your vodka
It takes a lot to shock us
But you being so prosperous is preposterous
How could this nappy headed boy from out the projects
Be the apple of America's obsession?
You totally disconnected with reality
Don't believe in dreams
Since when did black men become kings?"
Fall-Autumn
Whew

 

[Soapbox Killer]

Anyone who jumps to "not a great rapper but he's a great producer" does not understand the music of Kanye West.

Please expound upon this. I don't think Kanye West is that good of a rapper at all, average at best However, i don't think I can deny his skills on the boards. What am I not getting?

 

[Andrew Korenchkin]

Ha ha, you took my troll bait.

At least post D'Evils or something, breh. That's the song I always bring up when some noob tries to tell me Jay-Z is lacking as a rapper.

 

[Bounceounce]

Ha ha, you took my troll bait.

At least post D'Evils or something, breh. That's the song I always bring up when some noob tries to tell me Jay-Z is lacking as a rapper.

Damn just realized I hadn't quoted the entire shiny suit verse, fixed it.
Also, haven't you said the first verse on D'evils is in your top ten?
Just wondering.

 

[Andrew Korenchkin]

Damn just realized I hadn't quoted the entire shiny suit verse, fixed it.
Also, haven't you said the first verse on D'evils is in your top ten?
Just wondering.

BOTH the first and second are in my top ten. BOTH!

 

[gogosox82]

What?
Kanye's most recent output are two of the greatest albums of the decade and an average album.
What's the issue here?
Not going to address your Hov slander.

Kanye's last two albums have been meh and MBDTF is overrated. Jay hasn't put out a good album since 2007.

 

[Aizen.S.Kennedy]

Kanye's last two albums have been meh and MBDTF is overrated. Jay hasn't put out a good album since 2007.

Watch the throne was both of their last GREAT albums. Nothing even half way good since then imo. Jay snaps on Ross features tho.

 

[equippedwithtowel]

On Sight to Hold My Liquor is one of the best runs of tracks on any album in any genre this decade. People writing off yeezus are only hurting themselves.

 

[Aizen.S.Kennedy]

On Sight to Hold My Liquor is one of the best runs of tracks on any album in any genre this decade. People writing off yeezus are only hurting themselves.

Nah not when he's only spitting on 1 1/2 of those 5 songs.
I know ppl itt like to downplay the importance of good complex thought provoking lyrics,but they are the most important component of a hip hop album to a lot of fans of the genre. Kanye used to have those. He no longer does. It's that simple to us. That's why that stupid bleached asshole line keeps getting brought up. It means nothing. It barely ryhmes. It's juvenile and not creative at all.

 

[equippedwithtowel]

Nah not when he's only spitting on 1 1/2 of those 5 songs.
I know ppl itt like to downplay the importance of good complex thought provoking lyrics,but they are the most important component of a hip hop album to a lot of fans of the genre. Kanye used to have those. He no longer does. It's that simple to us. That's why that stupid bleached asshole line keeps getting brought up. It means nothing. It barely ryhmes. It's juvenile and not creative at all.

lol, keep telling yourself that

edit: Yeezus is Kanye's version of a dope mid era Neil Young record like Reactor or Trans, afterthought lyrics but amazing song craft.

 

[Aizen.S.Kennedy]

lol, keep telling yourself that

edit: Yeezus is Kanye's version of a dope mid era Neil Young record like Reactor or Trans, afterthought lyrics but amazing song craft.

Ummm I don't have to tell my self anything. Lyrics being important to me and a large amount of fans isn't something that's up for debate lol. Idc if they are important to you or not. Just telling u why missing out on that album is no big deal to a a lot of fans of the genre.