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[evilromero]

I got my pre-order in but am definitely having thoughts about cancelling. I already own a Wii U so what am I really paying for here if I can already get the best game(Zelda)? It looks like there will be the typical Nintendo game drought for the rest of the year as well.

How did this happen lol

How did it happen? I and many others have been saying for years that this is typical of the company. Horrible last half for the Wii, nothing to show for that drought on Wii U's first year. Here we are at Switch. Rinse and repeat.

 

[SimpleCRIPPLE]

I got my pre-order in but am definitely having thoughts about cancelling. I already own a Wii U so what am I really paying for here if I can already get the best game(Zelda)? It looks like there will be the typical Nintendo game drought for the rest of the year as well.

How did this happen lol

Thinking the same. They've had a drought on Wii U to prepare for this launch and they couldn't even have remasters of Wii U games ready in time.

So disappointing. That being said, I've still got my preorder for now.

 

[Colonel Nasty]

Oooooppppphhhhh that lineup is poor. Not a single great third party release.

 

[DashReindeer]

How did it happen? I and many others have been saying for years that this is typical of the company. Horrible last half for the Wii, nothing to show for that drought on Wii U's first year. Here we are at Switch. Rinse and repeat.

How can this same mistake keep happening? I have this weird feeling that the development status of Zelda really put Nintendo in an awkward position, where they weren't going to be able to sell it as strictly a Wii U game, but the Switch software and firmware and OS wasn't really ready for the console to launch just yet. Instead of delay Zelda yet again, they're just releasing the Switch with no other software and a half-baked release lineup for the rest of the year. This should not be happening. Not if there were any learnings to take away from the Wii U and 3DS launches, yet here we are seeing history repeat itself. What is wrong with Nintendo internally that we could have gotten to this point?

 

[Gorilla Shark]

I've been thinking about their anemic launch line up and to be honest... I think it's on purpose.

I think they realize that a VAST majority of people getting the Switch want Zelda. So, prepare that and a party/mini game collection. Most consumers (aside from us on Gaf and other enthusiasts) don't usually buy 3+ games at the launch of a system due to the cost.

So let EVERYONE buy Zelda and maybe the cheap mini game collection being sold for $50 (?!!!) then ramp up marketing for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Then ARMS, then Splatoon 2, etc.

That way there's always something on the horizon. i think most of us would prefer a bunch of these games all came out at launch, but let's be honest - some games might get lost in the shuffle and overshadowed by Zelda that way.

It might actually work for them.

 

[Compsiox]

I've been thinking about their anemic launch line up and to be honest... I think it's on purpose.

I think they realize that a VAST majority of people getting the Switch want Zelda. So, prepare that and a party/mini game collection. Most consumers (aside from us on Gaf and other enthusiasts) don't usually buy 3+ games at the launch of a system due to the cost.

So let EVERYONE buy Zelda and maybe the cheap mini game collection being sold for $50 (?!!!) then ramp up marketing for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Then ARMS, then Splatoon 2, etc.

That way there's always something on the horizon. i think most of us would prefer a bunch of these games all came out at launch, but let's be honest - some games might get lost in the shuffle and overshadowed by Zelda that way.

It might actually work for them.

OHHHHH 1, 2, Switch isn't just the dueling? I was like how in fuck can they charge 50 dollars for that.

 

[Barry Burton]

This is insane. How can you blame 3rd parties?

Nintendo Stockholm Syndrome in full force. It's never Nintendo's fault, it's always the third-parties that are "giving them the shaft."

 

[randomengine]

Just so we are all clear...

PS4 launched with Resogun, Killzone Shadow Fall and Knack

At least Switch is launching with Zelda.

 

[BodiesWithoutOrgans]

Just so we are all clear...

PS4 launched with Resogun, Killzone Shadow Fall and Knack

At least Switch is launching with Zelda.

Zelda wins

 

[randomengine]

Nintendo Stockholm Syndrome in full force. It's never Nintendo's fault, it's always the third-parties that are "giving them the shaft."

There are plenty of games for the system already this first year from the announced stock. There will be plenty more.

 

[GrandHarrier]

So all joking aside. Is this really launching with basically nothing?

 

[thenexus6]

 

[Parapraxis]

Just so we are all clear...

PS4 launched with Resogun, Killzone Shadow Fall and Knack

At least Switch is launching with Zelda.

PS4 launched with 25 games day one, (180 year one) regardless of whether you think they were good or not it, that's a hefty offering compared to Switcch.Right now the only game I'd buy (and many others share this sentiment) day one is Zelda BotW, but guess what, i'm a WiiU owner and i'll be getting it there.

 

[OricWindstar]

Just so we are all clear...

PS4 launched with Resogun, Killzone Shadow Fall and Knack

At least Switch is launching with Zelda.

I'd say they're on par, since you can get Zelda on another system.

I'd say it's pretty similar to the PS4s, in that it holds a lot of promise, but on launch day is a bit short.

 

[watershed]

The 2017 NA software slide looks a little paltry. The big titles are there but I hope there are other titles to fill the gaps.

 

[Trojita]

So all joking aside. Is this really launching with basically nothing?

If you have a Wii U and are perfectly fine playing Zelda on it. At the moment it looks like a waste of money.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Just so we are all clear...

PS4 launched with Resogun, Killzone Shadow Fall and Knack

At least Switch is launching with Zelda.

If only we lived in a world where first party games were all that mattered.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

PS4 launched with 25 games day one, (180 year one) regardless of whether you think they were good or not it, that's a hefty offering compared to Switcch.Right now the only game I'd buy (and many others share this sentiment) day one is Zelda BotW, but guess what, i'm a WiiU owner and i'll be getting it there.

Nintendo knows that 3 people bought Wii Us tho, maybe thats why they think Zelda is enough. Either way they should have launched in the Summer or Holiday 2017, they have nothing right now.

 

[SimpleCRIPPLE]

Just so we are all clear...

PS4 launched with Resogun, Killzone Shadow Fall and Knack

At least Switch is launching with Zelda.

But there was never any question about third party support for PS4. We knew all the heavy hitters would be support PS4.

Nintendo has a lot to prove in showing that third-party support will return after the Wii U and last night was not a good start.

 

[Netherscourge]

So, pay $360 to play Zelda: BotW.

 

[kiguel182]

The idea that PS4 launched with 3 games is ridiculous.

Also, Resogun was free with PS+. And there were free to play games at launch. And PS+ also offered Contract.

And Battlefield and COD and Assassins Creed. You know, three of the biggest franchises in the world.

So yeah, not the same.

 

[squidyj]

I've been thinking about their anemic launch line up and to be honest... I think it's on purpose.

I think they realize that a VAST majority of people getting the Switch want Zelda. So, prepare that and a party/mini game collection. Most consumers (aside from us on Gaf and other enthusiasts) don't usually buy 3+ games at the launch of a system due to the cost.

So let EVERYONE buy Zelda and maybe the cheap mini game collection being sold for $50 (?!!!) then ramp up marketing for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Then ARMS, then Splatoon 2, etc.

That way there's always something on the horizon. i think most of us would prefer a bunch of these games all came out at launch, but let's be honest - some games might get lost in the shuffle and overshadowed by Zelda that way.

It might actually work for them.

keep smoking that pipe.

 

[shanew21]

It's not terrible (go look at PS4/Xbone launches and tell me its better), but they really should've bumped Mario Kart to launch.

The PS4/Xbox One launch lineups were a LOT better.

 

[Trojita]

So, pay $360 to play Zelda: BotW.

$60 for me

 

[Roufianos]

Just so we are all clear...

PS4 launched with Resogun, Killzone Shadow Fall and Knack

At least Switch is launching with Zelda.

Just so we are clear....

PS4 also launched with Battlefield, COD, FIFA and Ass Creed.

Franchises that are much bigger sales wise than Zelda.

Not to mention that PS4 / X1 also brought with them a new generation of tech so people snapped them up for that alone.

Switch is mid gen and underpowered, it's not going to sell on technology alone. It needs killer apps infinitely more than PS4 did.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

It's been three years since DKC TF and Retro didn't have a Metroid or DKC or something else game to show >_>

Come on, guys.

 

[//ARCANUM]

Genuinely curious here: does the Switch have the weakest/smallest launch lineup in North American console history? 5 games at launch:

Zelda - the only must have
1 2 Switch - minigames that arguably should have been free
Super Bomberman R - cool
Skylanders - another skylanders game
Just Dance - another just dance game

Other than Zelda, the other games seem like filler that would round out a 10-15 title launch lineup. And for reference, I have the Switch pre-ordered and am getting Zelda, so I'm not on the hate train, I'm just kinda shocked that they think this is enough.

They could have delayed the launch if the games weren't ready. How did they not even get Mario Kart ready for launch? It's just an updated port.

So yeah, to reiterate my main question: has there been a weaker North American launch in terms of games lineup than the Switch? (specifically the launch day games)

 

[Zukkoyaki]

The idea that PS4 launched with 3 games is ridiculous.

Also, Resogun was free with PS+. And there were free to play games at launch. And PS+ also offered Contract.

And Battlefield and COD and Assassins Creed. You know, three of the biggest franchises in the world.

So yeah, not the same.

AND the annual sports games that people buy in droves

 

[Barry Burton]

I've been thinking about their anemic launch line up and to be honest... I think it's on purpose.

I think they realize that a VAST majority of people getting the Switch want Zelda. So, prepare that and a party/mini game collection. Most consumers (aside from us on Gaf and other enthusiasts) don't usually buy 3+ games at the launch of a system due to the cost.

So let EVERYONE buy Zelda and maybe the cheap mini game collection being sold for $50 (?!!!) then ramp up marketing for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Then ARMS, then Splatoon 2, etc.

That way there's always something on the horizon. i think most of us would prefer a bunch of these games all came out at launch, but let's be honest - some games might get lost in the shuffle and overshadowed by Zelda that way.

It might actually work for them.

Most likely, it is deliberate. Without fixing the third-party problem (which they haven't and aren't going to do) there needs to be a constant, steady stream of first-party games coming out on Switch. I really don't think anything that's happened in the past 24 hours indicates that they can't or won't accomplish that. So many people are acting like Nintendo unveiled the entire lineup last night, and that's it, the Switch is going to live or die on that. Yesterday was basically "Day 0" of the Switch-era, for all intents and purposes...it's way to early to start writing it off.

Considering the situation with the Wii U that they are just coming off of, should they have shown off another first-party game or two that's in development? Yeah, probably.

 

[DeuceGamer]

I've been thinking about their anemic launch line up and to be honest... I think it's on purpose.

I think they realize that a VAST majority of people getting the Switch want Zelda. So, prepare that and a party/mini game collection. Most consumers (aside from us on Gaf and other enthusiasts) don't usually buy 3+ games at the launch of a system due to the cost.

So let EVERYONE buy Zelda and maybe the cheap mini game collection being sold for $50 (?!!!) then ramp up marketing for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Then ARMS, then Splatoon 2, etc.

That way there's always something on the horizon. i think most of us would prefer a bunch of these games all came out at launch, but let's be honest - some games might get lost in the shuffle and overshadowed by Zelda that way.

It might actually work for them.

That's what I was thinking as well. Nintendo Hardware will sell at launch regardless and especially with a highly anticipated Zelda release. They have a few games to hold them until Splatoon 2 in the summer. A few more games to hold them over until Xenoblade, and finally Mario at the end of the year.

Will obviously be ups and downs but its much improved from Wii U in my opinion.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

Uuuuughhh.

 

[ratcliffja]

I've been thinking about their anemic launch line up and to be honest... I think it's on purpose.

I think they realize that a VAST majority of people getting the Switch want Zelda. So, prepare that and a party/mini game collection. Most consumers (aside from us on Gaf and other enthusiasts) don't usually buy 3+ games at the launch of a system due to the cost.

So let EVERYONE buy Zelda and maybe the cheap mini game collection being sold for $50 (?!!!) then ramp up marketing for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Then ARMS, then Splatoon 2, etc.

That way there's always something on the horizon. i think most of us would prefer a bunch of these games all came out at launch, but let's be honest - some games might get lost in the shuffle and overshadowed by Zelda that way.

It might actually work for them.

Yeah, but this would also indicate that they might not have many other games slated for the first half of this year. This looks like the first year of the Wii U when one of the biggest selling points of this system should be that it has both handheld and console Nintendo teams on it, leading to a larger library. If they had a lot more games coming this year, they wouldn't need to spread out their releases as much.

 

[Spy]

Another thing, what is with all of these ridiculously high priced games that should be $20 digital titles?

Super Bomberman R is $60
Minecraft is $60
1, 2, Switch is $50
Ultra Street Fighter 2 is $40
Puyo Puyo Tetris is $40

 

[GamerJM]

Another thing, what is with all of these ridiculously high priced games that should be $20 digital titles?

Super Bomberman R is $60
1, 2, Switch is $50
Ultra Street Fighter 2 is $40
Puyo Puyo Tetris is $40

Honestly I'd rather have it personally as someone who likes getting physical copies of games and doesn't mind paying high prices, but yeah this isn't going to go over well with the market in 2017 at all....

 

[Boke1879]

Just so we are all clear...

PS4 launched with Resogun, Killzone Shadow Fall and Knack

At least Switch is launching with Zelda.

And AC Battlefield, COD Madden and NBA. It's a lineup that appeals to mass consumers

 

[-MD-]

Another thing, what is with all of these ridiculously high priced games that should be $20 digital titles?

Super Bomberman R is $60
1, 2, Switch is $50
Ultra Street Fighter 2 is $40
Puyo Puyo Tetris is $40

Bomberman is $60? Lmao.

 

[boondock18]

Other than Resogun, I don't think PS4 had a game that could stand with Zelda as a game worth owning.

 

[HardRojo]

Another thing, what is with all of these ridiculously high priced games that should be $20 digital titles?

Super Bomberman R is $60
1, 2, Switch is $50
Ultra Street Fighter 2 is $40
Puyo Puyo Tetris is $40

Wait WTF!? Bomberman is $60 and USF2 is $40? I thought they'd be $25 tops!

 

[Spy]

Bomberman is $60? Lmao.

Just found out Minecraft is also listed at $60. Hopefully these are placeholders.

 

[slit]

I've been thinking about their anemic launch line up and to be honest... I think it's on purpose.

I think they realize that a VAST majority of people getting the Switch want Zelda. So, prepare that and a party/mini game collection. Most consumers (aside from us on Gaf and other enthusiasts) don't usually buy 3+ games at the launch of a system due to the cost.

So let EVERYONE buy Zelda and maybe the cheap mini game collection being sold for $50 (?!!!) then ramp up marketing for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Then ARMS, then Splatoon 2, etc.

That way there's always something on the horizon. i think most of us would prefer a bunch of these games all came out at launch, but let's be honest - some games might get lost in the shuffle and overshadowed by Zelda that way.

It might actually work for them.

This is the philosophy used for Wii U. How'd that turn out?

 

[HardRojo]

Just found out Minecraft is also listed at $60. Hopefully these are placeholders.

Oh, they could be placeholders then. It'd be ridiculous if those were the actual prices.

 

[Trojita]

PS4 launched with


Angry Birds Star Wars
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
Blacklight: Retribution
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Contrast
DC Universe Online
FIFA 14
Flower
Injustice: Gods Among Us - Ultimate Edition
Just Dance 2014
Killzone Shadow Fall
Knack
Lego Marvel Super Heroes
Madden NFL 25
NBA 2K14
Need for Speed Rivals
Resogun
Skylanders: Swap Force
Sound Shapes
Super Motherload
The Playroom
Trine 2: Complete Story
Warframe

Xbox One launched with


Angry Birds Star Wars
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Crimson Dragon
Dead Rising 3
FIFA 14
Fighter Within
Forza Motorsport 5
Just Dance 2014
Killer Instinct
Lego Marvel Super Heroes
LocoCycle
Madden NFL 25
NBA 2K14
NBA Live 14
Need for Speed Rivals
Powerstar Golf
Ryse: Son of Rome
Skylanders: Swap Force
Zoo Tycoon
Zumba Fitness: World Party

The switch is a dual purpose console/portable with unified game design and a drought on their previous systems, but they still didn't have games to show for launch.

 

[Parapraxis]

Other than Resogun, I don't think PS4 had a game that could stand with Zelda as a game worth owning.

I hope you mean Day 1...and day one only. That being said a lot of people loved BF4

 

[DeuceGamer]

Yeah, but this would also indicate that they might not have many other games slated for the first half of this year. This looks like the first year of the Wii U when one of the biggest selling points of this system should be that it has both handheld and console Nintendo teams on it, leading to a larger library. If they had a lot more games coming this year, they wouldn't need to spread out their releases as much.

This looks far better than the Wii U first year. Zelda BOTW, Splatoon 2, Arms, Mario, and Xenoblade 2 already make it much better in comparison.

I'm also expecting some smaller titles will still be announced for the second half of the year at e3.

 

[Netherscourge]

Just so we are all clear...

PS4 launched with Resogun, Killzone Shadow Fall and Knack

At least Switch is launching with Zelda.

PS4 Launch Lineup: (these were all DAY 1 releases)

Angry Birds Star Wars
Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
Blacklight: Retribution
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Contrast
DC Universe Online
DiveKick
FIFA 14* EA Sports Retail
Flower (Cross-Buy) [8] ThatGameCompany PSN
Injustice: Gods Among Us Ultimate Edition
Just Dance 2014
Killzone Shadow Fall
Knack
LEGO: Marvel Super Heroes
Madden NFL 25
NBA 2K14
NBA Live 14
Need for Speed: Rivals
Resogun
Skylanders Swap Force
Sound Shapes
Super Motherload
Trine 2: The Complete Story
Warframe

 

[Alphahawk]

Another thing, what is with all of these ridiculously high priced games that should be $20 digital titles?

Super Bomberman R is $60
1, 2, Switch is $50
Ultra Street Fighter 2 is $40
Puyo Puyo Tetris is $40

1,2 Switch definitely was always gonna be physical. Nintendo wasnts it to be easy for the casual crowd who would of likely struggled with getting an online only title.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

It's not terrible (go look at PS4/Xbone launches and tell me its better), but they really should've bumped Mario Kart to launch.

Are you kidding me? The PS4/XB1 launch line up shits all over this. 25+ games, biggest franchises in the world, multiple exclusives.

People have hazy memories, because the BIGGEST knock against the PS4/XB1 launch line-up was the fact that there were lots of cross-gen game. You can't honestly can't hold anything against those lineups in favor of the Switch when the biggest game of the Switch's 5-ish game lineup is a cross-gen title.

 

[watershed]

Another thing, what is with all of these ridiculously high priced games that should be $20 digital titles?

Super Bomberman R is $60
1, 2, Switch is $50
Ultra Street Fighter 2 is $40
Puyo Puyo Tetris is $40

High prices across the board is gonna kill the Switch.

 

[El Topo]

Why are people bringing up the PS4 launch? That console launched more than three years ago, not in the middle of a gen.

 

[jonno394]

Slightly OT but Has anyone gif'd the bit from the parental controls video with bowser jr asking for new games and Bowser saying now. Someone needs to shop the gaf logo (or equivalent) on to Bowser Jr and Kimishima on to Bowser.