Skittzo0413
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I'm not claiming this is a good idea but it doesn't seem like a step backwards if it can still do everything the Wii U did without this app.
Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app
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I'm not claiming this is a good idea but it doesn't seem like a step backwards if it can still do everything the Wii U did without this app.
The controller doesn't have an headphone plug.
This is what bothers me the most too. I couldn't give two shits about voice chat, i prefer chatting with friends on my PC while i play on the PS4 tbh. Though friend lists, matchmaking and such SHOULD be on the console itself.
Hum, because there's no headphone jack on any of the controllers ?
Don't shoot the messenger, just filling in a gap that was missing from OP. It seems odd to limit this functionality, but maybe it's a convoluted way to prevent children from using these features? I truly don't know but I want to hear more from Nintendo before I judge too harshly. Their silence is deafening, though.
SuperLeviathan
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And we though Nintendo and DeNa teaming up was going to be a good thing. How naive we were.
SmokedMeat
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You have to use a landline for voice chat.
vasametropolis
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Bluetooth pairing of audio from the phone to the Switch is literally the last bastion of hope.
Buggy Loop
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As a huge Nintendo fan, i can't even see 1, a single one aspect positive about this decision.
So i'm playing the handheld at the university, at bed or something of the sort with wifi. I play splatoon 2.
And when i voice chat, if it has to be connected to the cellphone, how am i hearing what's going on in the game? That would mean a useless streaming between switch and the cellphone.
And i'm using my phone's batteries for this?
Plus i really don't like to leave my items "nearby" in public, my cellphone is in my hands, or pocket, so if the match ends in a few secs because "reasons", this will become really really annoying.
DeNA trolled Nintendo hard on this, old guys who don't understand a thing about online ate it up.
So i'm playing the handheld at the university, at bed or something of the sort with wifi. I play splatoon 2.
- Put down the switch handheld on my lap, or hold in one hand
- Reach for my Iphone ($$$ device not included with switch) in my pocket
- I unlock the fucking phone with either code or thumb
- I press the home button to hide safari which most likely (95% of the time) was on Neogaf
- I open the DeNA-Nintendo abomination of an app
- I search for matches
And when i voice chat, if it has to be connected to the cellphone, how am i hearing what's going on in the game? That would mean a useless streaming between switch and the cellphone.
And i'm using my phone's batteries for this?
Plus i really don't like to leave my items "nearby" in public, my cellphone is in my hands, or pocket, so if the match ends in a few secs because "reasons", this will become really really annoying.
DeNA trolled Nintendo hard on this, old guys who don't understand a thing about online ate it up.
icecold1983
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thread is long but are the nintendo fans saying this is exactly what they wanted all along too?
Darklor01
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Might not be able to clear the air if there is nothing to clear. We shall see how this all plays out. I think we all want to believe that a major multinational corporation would not force this "elegant" "solution" on people if there were additional ways to do it. I sure as hell do want to believe it.
Then, I think Nintendo may have chosen to innovate things that don't need innovation. Create solutions to problems that don't exist. Create problems which now need solutions .. which also already existed.
I really hope something is cleared up or changed which makes all of this insanity go away. It likely won't.
Then, I think Nintendo may have chosen to innovate things that don't need innovation. Create solutions to problems that don't exist. Create problems which now need solutions .. which also already existed.
I really hope something is cleared up or changed which makes all of this insanity go away. It likely won't.
aaaaaaand?
what does that have to be with the phone being synchronized with the switch for the parental controls and matchmaking services?
nogoodnamesleft
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Honestly, i am not understanding 90% of Nintendo's decisions with this console. I am at the point where i am like "fucking whatever. Just give me 5 or so good first party games and cut the price and ill buy it like the sucker i am"
Everything with this system just feels so fucking clueless.
Everything with this system just feels so fucking clueless.
Louis Cyphre
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Is this going to be timed exclusive to Apple iPhones?
At that point if you have to program that into your OS you might as well have it capable of that natively, you aren't saving resources...
What about walky talky?
Voice chat will happen over the phone.
UnemployedVillain
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The article doesn't say that
How will you use voice chat then?
I just can't believe they think this is "elegant"...
They just expect people to talk through their phone speakers so everyone can hear everything? They would use the headset on the phone, which in turn makes you use even more things to get a game going.
The opposite of elegant. So stupid.
They just expect people to talk through their phone speakers so everyone can hear everything? They would use the headset on the phone, which in turn makes you use even more things to get a game going.
The opposite of elegant. So stupid.
SO WHAT?!
im talking about the lobby and matchmaking services
no shit youll need your phone close if you want to voice chat
vasametropolis
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Yup, tell that to Nintendo lol.
Are you being obtuse ? You said :
Yes, unless you have a bluetooth headset, the audio cord means the freaking phone will need to be on your lap or something.
Talking about voice chat of course.
Well thats what the fucking Bluetooth comment you were replying to originally was talking about lol
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7DollarHagane
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You don't know that open slots aren't shown on the screen when not connected to the app. They haven't said. Youre assuming.
If Nintendo had just come out and said they were making this for the hardcore fortysomething Nintendo fans and Silicon Valley start up millionaires a lot of these baffling decisions would be overlooked.
But they still claim this is aimed at a general audience and a younger audience that is already served by playing stuff like Minecraft on their tablets.
I still think this thing might sell less than the WiiU.
But they still claim this is aimed at a general audience and a younger audience that is already served by playing stuff like Minecraft on their tablets.
I still think this thing might sell less than the WiiU.
MysticLeviathan
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Literally what I've been saying since the system was revealed back in October.
We want it to be a home console! But it can't be too powerful because we want it to be a portable, too!
We want it to be able to handle graphically intensive games! But by doing so the battery life won't be good!
We want it to offer similar controls to a home console experience! But by doing so it loses a huge amount of portability by having the joycons!
We want it to be affordable! But by doing so the system can't be as powerful as our competitors'!
It's trying to please everyone, but it's half-assing so much and there isn't a single thing it does truly well. Even if you were to say that it does home console-esque gaming portably, can you really call the bulky system and attaching the joycons to it portable? I mean sure, it's portable, but there's no way it'll fit into a pants pocket, even the biggest of pants pockets, but will it even fit into a bulky jacket pocket? Can you really call a system that can't fit into any pocket that isn't a bag's portable?
The bigger issue isn't the system itself, it's the things like overpriced accessories and this god forsaken online system. Unless there's some technical reason for this, there is literally no reason to have this nonsense. And if there were a technical reason for this, what the fuck are you doing making this console then? Wait another year or two before releasing when CPUs and GPUs become a bit more efficient, components become cheaper, and these types of consoles could be more effective at the price point you want.
I'm just struggling to understand what this company is doing. Ever since the Wii came out, its like they're totally delusional when it comes to making a video game console. Have they not even considered that they should make a true Xbox/Playstation competitor and then make casual games for smartphones on the side? I mean that seems like a far more intelligent idea than trying to force this to cater to casuals and young kids.
All in all, I really hope it's just a communication error and this can all be done on the system itself. I'm not saying we should stop and wait, as it seems pretty clear, but I'm really just hoping it's all a mistake and misunderstanding. I hated the very idea of the system from day 1, but they're doing so much dumb shit that's compounding on what I've considered to be a DoA system from the very start. But this is Nintendo. Not sure their fanbase will care that much. The question is will those who are on the fence be able to handle it? Or more importantly, will they realize it's a huge mistake and fix it in the future? Who the hell knows at this point.
Memorabilia
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Didn't they consider simple problems with this approach? Like kids who don't have smart phones? And parents who may not relish the idea of giving theirs to their kids for extended multi-hour long gaming marathons? And what about the fact that phones in general have shit sound quality on speakerphone? And the fact that people on each end are going to be listening to each others games, creating a time-delay/echo effect?
The last thing I want is to be using my fuckin PHONE to voice chat with people while playing Mario-Kart. Lol I mean, REALLY Nintendo?
The last thing I want is to be using my fuckin PHONE to voice chat with people while playing Mario-Kart. Lol I mean, REALLY Nintendo?
FOR THE LOBBY AND MATCHMAKING AND PARENTAL CONTROL SERVICES
nobody was talking about voice chat
soldierblue
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I just can't see how anyone could think this is a good idea.
But why remove the function from the console UI? Why not do both, like PSN does?
Kssio_Aug
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As an alternative solution I honestly think that would be amazing! But as an obligatory tool, not offering such basics on the console itself, that's just ridiculous.
Their app better be fast, light, and support old and new phones, as well as iPhone, Android AND Windows phones. Otherwise they're necessarily gonna hurt part of their fanbase.
Their app better be fast, light, and support old and new phones, as well as iPhone, Android AND Windows phones. Otherwise they're necessarily gonna hurt part of their fanbase.
Why should I need to sync my phone just to use the matchmaking services?
So if my phone is out of battery or on repair I can't play my home console?
Skittzo0413
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It's very likely that this is just about OS level party chat and lobbies, rather than in game matchmaking. You'll still be able to play online in Splatoon 2 or MK8 Deluxe without this app.
Joeshabadoo
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im not at all crying. one man misspoke a bit and now suddenly a large swath of people who should be seasoned and rational players of video games are thinking that if they were to go to the 'online play' menu icon of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe they're going to suddenly see a message telling them to check their phone screen before they can advance and get in to a match? that they wont be able to play against others online through the game itself and an app will have to be involved in any/all online play scenarios?
I'm not making assumptions. there's video of MK8 deluxe being played in an online capacity showing Mii's getting grouped in to a random lobby for racing and for battle mode. not a single phone in sight
nooooo, lets take this ball that reggie clearly mistakingly gave us in a single interview and run several panicked circles with it
The patent suggests it does, so ¯\_(ツ_/¯
The Japanese breakdown (unless it changed recently) also says it supports a standard 3.5mm with audio in/out. Its only the English breakdown that has "audio out".
It lets them free up RAM. Games handling it pull from whatever RAM is open (ie. everything but whatever is fixed to the OS), but if the OS does it it *always* has to reserved a fixed amount for the entire OS functionality. OS-level features don't scale, and they seem to have ripped them all out to free up as much RAM as possible for games.
This is certainly not better then the Wiiu. The Miiverse was great and individual WiiU games supported voice chat on Par with the other consoles.
This Use a phone companion app BS was meant to have died years ago. Really starting to hate NoA. Surely they should have been steeping in to stop this madness
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