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Colin was Right: Same Old Nintendo (Jan 19. 2017)
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More and more I think about it they should have just offered you a $200 mobile only option and a $300 bundle with the dock.
CrimsonSquall
Member
Colin is a cynic, but actually well thought out on this. Nintendo will just always stay oldschool.
Then the core message of the console would be completely lost.
The Wraith
Member
Colin is smug but he is completely right. I have a Nintendo switch preordered because I want to play Zelda in all its glory. Everything else about the console isn't good though.
Skyrim special edition, and Nintendo's history of pack ins. Some of his comments on Nintendo's online service are fill in the blank asumptions based on an absence of information rather than any actual knowlege of what the service is. It's Nintendo's fault for only releasing 3 tidbits of information (all somewhat negative) without showing anything. But he still shouldn't present certain things as fact before actually having clarification.
Muppet is the apt form he has chosen there.
I was done with the video after the muppet got excited about unknown people presenting at the conference, USB-C, and capacitive touch screens.
Talk about grasping at straws.
I really don't know where to stand here because I love Colin, but I also love Nintendo, and even though he says that he's a big Nintendo fan I have to feel some of his frustration with the company is fueled a little by his Sony fandom. The problem is though, he's mainly right, just the way he goes about being right is kind of annoying. Constantly putting down the 3DS and Wii U while putting the Vita up on a pedestal is fine like opinions wise, but he's almost been acting like the Vita was a ton more successful than those other two.
Crazyorloco
Member
Thank you. The OP was vague. This Colin guy seems a bit too negative.
He may lose some points for execution, but has a lot of valid points. I grew up on Nintendo consoles, but haven't been impressed since the Wii (or even a bit before with the GameCube). The last console of theirs that I truly loved was the 64, and even it was starting to show some of the signs of problems we see today. At the time it wasn't a concern, but glaring faults slowly chipped away at my enthusiasm.
Nintendo just seems to be so far behind with so much of their thinking, and they keep stubbornly going down the same avenues that many of us jilted lovers complain about. The list of complaints hasn't dissipated for a decade now.
They're consoles are underpowered. They don't embrace the third party. Their control methods continue to favor the obtuse. They rely on fads, never fully developing proper uses for things like motion control or touch screen capabilities. They rarely create new IP. They aren't on the cutting age of graphics. Their art styles are simple. Their gameplay remains fairly rudimentary. They were slow to embrace a digital marketplace. They were slow to embrace a multiplayer network. They are slow to embrace chat functionality.
The saddest part in my situation is that I still love platformers. I want to love what they are doing. They still make quality first party games, even if the franchises are long in the tooth. But I can't get past their missteps, so I've turned to Sony, Microsoft, and the indie community to satisfy me with new, cutting edge experiences. Stuff like Ratchet & Clank, Sly Cooper, Puppeteer, Tearaway, Recore, Unravel, Hyper Light Drifter, The Witness, Guacamelee... Stuff that reminds me of why I loved Nintendo, but feels fresh and exciting.
It kind of mirrors the way I feel about sports games. When I was younger, I remember having a few iteration of the sports games in 95. Madden, NBA Live, and NHL (even though I had no clue how to play hockey). I played them a ton. But I really haven't touched many sports games since because they come out every year and don't seem to be changing that much. I simply grew tired of the same old formula.
Nintendo just seems to be so far behind with so much of their thinking, and they keep stubbornly going down the same avenues that many of us jilted lovers complain about. The list of complaints hasn't dissipated for a decade now.
They're consoles are underpowered. They don't embrace the third party. Their control methods continue to favor the obtuse. They rely on fads, never fully developing proper uses for things like motion control or touch screen capabilities. They rarely create new IP. They aren't on the cutting age of graphics. Their art styles are simple. Their gameplay remains fairly rudimentary. They were slow to embrace a digital marketplace. They were slow to embrace a multiplayer network. They are slow to embrace chat functionality.
The saddest part in my situation is that I still love platformers. I want to love what they are doing. They still make quality first party games, even if the franchises are long in the tooth. But I can't get past their missteps, so I've turned to Sony, Microsoft, and the indie community to satisfy me with new, cutting edge experiences. Stuff like Ratchet & Clank, Sly Cooper, Puppeteer, Tearaway, Recore, Unravel, Hyper Light Drifter, The Witness, Guacamelee... Stuff that reminds me of why I loved Nintendo, but feels fresh and exciting.
It kind of mirrors the way I feel about sports games. When I was younger, I remember having a few iteration of the sports games in 95. Madden, NBA Live, and NHL (even though I had no clue how to play hockey). I played them a ton. But I really haven't touched many sports games since because they come out every year and don't seem to be changing that much. I simply grew tired of the same old formula.
Ehhh... not really...
I have a super PC, PS4 and plan on getting the Switch, am critical of Nintendo and what Arlo pointed out is BIG for Nintendo, ANY kind of transperency from them is good. Or would you rather have Reggie as your mediator to what the company is doing everytime you tune in to their goings on?
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
This is exactly why people like myself were super bummed when we found out the Switch (contrary to every executive quote before its reveal) turned out to be a true hybrid and not just a family of devices using the same OS.
You end up with an overpriced handheld/ weak console. Worst of both worlds, and exclusively caters to the very few people who would have purchased both a Nintendo console and handheld.
I would rather have western dev support than "new faces" telling me about the 5 games they're gonna have for launch.
RevolverRoden
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I agree with him tbh. I hope we're wrong though.
This dude just ruined muppets for me
Interesting thread here.
Seems 3rd party games still don't count to some if the Switch lineup is considered better than PS4, XBO. Or that those 2 consoles had a subpar launch line up.
The Wii U launch lineup looks better than the Switch. Why? 3rd parties. That have mass appeal.
And yes alot of what he's saying has been said here. I also agree with him.
I'm also in his shoes as a lapsed Nintendo fan. Only difference is even tho I had a Wii and bought so many games for it, after barely getting any for n64 and gc, it wasn't my main or fav console back then. After the the launch of the ps1 and n64 I shifted to Sony.
And it was all because of 3rd party games. I like Xbox too but didn't like it until right before the 360 launched.
Seems 3rd party games still don't count to some if the Switch lineup is considered better than PS4, XBO. Or that those 2 consoles had a subpar launch line up.
The Wii U launch lineup looks better than the Switch. Why? 3rd parties. That have mass appeal.
And yes alot of what he's saying has been said here. I also agree with him.
I'm also in his shoes as a lapsed Nintendo fan. Only difference is even tho I had a Wii and bought so many games for it, after barely getting any for n64 and gc, it wasn't my main or fav console back then. After the the launch of the ps1 and n64 I shifted to Sony.
And it was all because of 3rd party games. I like Xbox too but didn't like it until right before the 360 launched.
Its hard for me to really care about that though because I can afford multiple consoles, I can simply buy the game on the non Nintendo console or Steam. What Nintendo needs is to do is encourage devs to offer exclusive content, not ports because its already hard enough to compete with Nintendo software. Though I guess you could get cheaper games from third parties faster when stores need to get them off the shelves since they won't sell.
BrownWalrus
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But does that mean that we should expect the same amount of support the 3DS has gotten, or the traditional 10 games a year that the Wii U has been getting?
For him to have realistic expectations for someone new to this kind of thing? Saying "best of luck" has nothing to do with anything lol.
gamerMan
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I get why he made this video as it's going to get him a lot of views. The funny thing is that he made this video without ever touching the system so a lot of his arguments are based on hearsay. Yes there are a lot of things that Nintendo fucked up at launch and the launch library is not as good as it should be. But people don't buy consoles based on its launch library. Early adopters take a risk because of the potential of the system.
Nintendo has already showed that the potential of this system is amazing. I can take some cool ass Nintendo games and play them anywhere. Plus, unlike Sony, I know more games are coming even if the system doesn't do well. The same can't be said for the PSVR or PSVITA.
I didn't buy a PS4 at launch because of its launch library. I bought it because of its potential. There were a ton of games on PS4 at launch, but I only ended up playing Resogun. And I could have played that "new" Call Of Duty, Assassins Creed, and the other ports on the PS3, but they ran better on PS4. It took awhile before the PS4 library starting gaining momentum. Just like it's going to take on the Switch.
There was nothing even close to Zelda. Yes, it is one game and you can play it on the Wii U. But can you play it on the toilet, on the plane, or wherever the f--- you want? That's pretty f'ing amazing.The selling point here isn't the launch library, it's the fact that you can take Nintendo games on the go and that ZELDA game is just the first.
And how many people actually have a Wii U? Pretty much nobody other than people on this board so the point is moot. Even Colin doesn't have a Wii U. The fact is if you want to play what is shaping up to be one of the best Zelda games ever, you have to own a Switch. And if you are a "core" gamer, you are going to want to play it somehow. And people who say they are going to play it on the Wii U are acting like its Nintendo's last great game. It's not. If you are going to want to play more great first party games like Zelda, you are going to have to get a Switch. Period.
Nintendo showed us a fucking cool ass Zelda game and Mario game. These are game of the year contenders not just ordinary games. The changes in these games have shown Nintendo is indeed listening to core gamers and I'm excited what other franchises they are going to overhaul.
The Switch already has the best Mario Kart game ever made, potentially the best Mario game, potentially the best Zelda game. Even if these games don't live up to the immensely high expectations at least Nintendo is trying something new with them.
In its first year Nintendo is giving us Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Snipperclips, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Splatoon 2, and Arms. That's not great but it's decent for a console's first year. I would argue that is much stronger than Sony's first year even with 3rd party support.
It is clear that 3rd party support right now is not that great, but do you really expect 3rd party to be there in day one after the Wii U?
Nintendo is making an effort. Skyrim, Fifa, Sonic Mania, NBA 2k18, Fast Neo Racing, Dragon Quest , No More Heroes, Puyo Puyo Tetris, Rime, Super Bomberman R, Project Octopath Traveler, and Minecraft are coming. If the Switch does well, I'm sure 3rd party will open up a bigger catalog of games.
Also, Colin seems to just throw out false speculation to make his argument that Switch can't support modern 3rd party games. Given the fact that he gets paid to do what he does, he could have at least taken the time to research his wild claims instead of spewing out misinformation. Skyrim doesn't look like its based of the 5 year old version. Peter Moore already confirmed that Fifa is not based off a PS3 port.
From a developer standpoint, the fact that the Unreal Engine will run on the Switch means that it is much more powerful than the Wii U. It means it can run modern engines. Sure it's not as powerful as the PS4 an Xbox One, but you can't take those consoles on the go.
Also, I don't understand the argument that the peripherals cost so much. Unless Colin is getting his stuff for free, they have always been. I bought an extra dual shock 4 at $60 dollars at launch. My additional wireless Xbox One Controller was also $60. The great thing about the Switch is expanding on the memory is pretty cheap and even getting aditional battery power shouldn't be difficult since Nintendo has decided not to go with a proprietary solution.
Right now the online doesn't sound promising. The fact that you have to use your phone is pretty stupid, but it's exasperated by the fact that Colin hasn't updated his phone in forever. I don't think it is fair to complain now. When Nintendo formally announces all of the features, then we can complain. RIght now everything is based on hearsay and not a lot of information. One positive thing is Nintendo has said that Virtual Console purchases are going to be tied to our Nintendo account. That's a start.
Colin made this video just to shit on Nintendo and I know this sort of stuff gets views, but a more balanced argument would have made his argument stronger. I believe that the Nintendo Switch is going to be great and Nintendo could have done a better job with its presentation. It killed the system's momentum. How you present something matters. Just ask Steve Jobs. They should have started with Zelda and ended with Mario and skipped the gimmicky stuff. The messaging was all over the place and seemed old fashioned compared to the reveal trailer
Nintendo has already showed that the potential of this system is amazing. I can take some cool ass Nintendo games and play them anywhere. Plus, unlike Sony, I know more games are coming even if the system doesn't do well. The same can't be said for the PSVR or PSVITA.
I didn't buy a PS4 at launch because of its launch library. I bought it because of its potential. There were a ton of games on PS4 at launch, but I only ended up playing Resogun. And I could have played that "new" Call Of Duty, Assassins Creed, and the other ports on the PS3, but they ran better on PS4. It took awhile before the PS4 library starting gaining momentum. Just like it's going to take on the Switch.
There was nothing even close to Zelda. Yes, it is one game and you can play it on the Wii U. But can you play it on the toilet, on the plane, or wherever the f--- you want? That's pretty f'ing amazing.The selling point here isn't the launch library, it's the fact that you can take Nintendo games on the go and that ZELDA game is just the first.
And how many people actually have a Wii U? Pretty much nobody other than people on this board so the point is moot. Even Colin doesn't have a Wii U. The fact is if you want to play what is shaping up to be one of the best Zelda games ever, you have to own a Switch. And if you are a "core" gamer, you are going to want to play it somehow. And people who say they are going to play it on the Wii U are acting like its Nintendo's last great game. It's not. If you are going to want to play more great first party games like Zelda, you are going to have to get a Switch. Period.
Nintendo showed us a fucking cool ass Zelda game and Mario game. These are game of the year contenders not just ordinary games. The changes in these games have shown Nintendo is indeed listening to core gamers and I'm excited what other franchises they are going to overhaul.
The Switch already has the best Mario Kart game ever made, potentially the best Mario game, potentially the best Zelda game. Even if these games don't live up to the immensely high expectations at least Nintendo is trying something new with them.
In its first year Nintendo is giving us Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Snipperclips, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Splatoon 2, and Arms. That's not great but it's decent for a console's first year. I would argue that is much stronger than Sony's first year even with 3rd party support.
It is clear that 3rd party support right now is not that great, but do you really expect 3rd party to be there in day one after the Wii U?
Nintendo is making an effort. Skyrim, Fifa, Sonic Mania, NBA 2k18, Fast Neo Racing, Dragon Quest , No More Heroes, Puyo Puyo Tetris, Rime, Super Bomberman R, Project Octopath Traveler, and Minecraft are coming. If the Switch does well, I'm sure 3rd party will open up a bigger catalog of games.
Also, Colin seems to just throw out false speculation to make his argument that Switch can't support modern 3rd party games. Given the fact that he gets paid to do what he does, he could have at least taken the time to research his wild claims instead of spewing out misinformation. Skyrim doesn't look like its based of the 5 year old version. Peter Moore already confirmed that Fifa is not based off a PS3 port.
From a developer standpoint, the fact that the Unreal Engine will run on the Switch means that it is much more powerful than the Wii U. It means it can run modern engines. Sure it's not as powerful as the PS4 an Xbox One, but you can't take those consoles on the go.
Also, I don't understand the argument that the peripherals cost so much. Unless Colin is getting his stuff for free, they have always been. I bought an extra dual shock 4 at $60 dollars at launch. My additional wireless Xbox One Controller was also $60. The great thing about the Switch is expanding on the memory is pretty cheap and even getting aditional battery power shouldn't be difficult since Nintendo has decided not to go with a proprietary solution.
Right now the online doesn't sound promising. The fact that you have to use your phone is pretty stupid, but it's exasperated by the fact that Colin hasn't updated his phone in forever. I don't think it is fair to complain now. When Nintendo formally announces all of the features, then we can complain. RIght now everything is based on hearsay and not a lot of information. One positive thing is Nintendo has said that Virtual Console purchases are going to be tied to our Nintendo account. That's a start.
Colin made this video just to shit on Nintendo and I know this sort of stuff gets views, but a more balanced argument would have made his argument stronger. I believe that the Nintendo Switch is going to be great and Nintendo could have done a better job with its presentation. It killed the system's momentum. How you present something matters. Just ask Steve Jobs. They should have started with Zelda and ended with Mario and skipped the gimmicky stuff. The messaging was all over the place and seemed old fashioned compared to the reveal trailer
RichiRamjag
Member
I gave my opinion on his delivery. That's it. I've got nothing against the guy. Maybe he'll get better, maybe not. Currently, I think he sounds amateur and robotic. I'm not sure why some of you are trying to make excuses for him or act like I'm being a dick for having an opinion. I don't really care if he's new at it or who he's trying to be like. If it sounds better down the road, good for him.
Nestunt
Member
Strong video. Specially the focus on the 3rd party problem. It seems, for years, that people in dedicated gaming circles completely disregard this cornerstone of the gaming business because they view Nintendo as the second machine: PC+Nintendo, Playstation+Nintendo, Xbox....
But a lot of consumers don't have the time or the money to play in various machines.
But a lot of consumers don't have the time or the money to play in various machines.
Ya fuck improvement, if your first attempt isn't perfect you just don't "have it".
I responded to your opinion. If you don't like it perhaps a message board isn't for you.
Finally someone with the courage to complain about Nintendo on the internet. What a unique, interesting and brave soul. *YAWN*
The worst thing is these blowhards that are all captain bring down on their videos or in their articles but then don't go hard at Nintendo when they have interviews with them.
The worst thing is these blowhards that are all captain bring down on their videos or in their articles but then don't go hard at Nintendo when they have interviews with them.
RichiRamjag
Member
You tried to downplay my opinion because apparently, I can't have one since he's gotta do more vids to get better first. It's not my job to worry about the whether or not he needs to do more of these to get better. Currently I think it sounds amateurish and you're over here telling me a story about how needs practice to get better. Yeah. No shit people get better at things with practice. As it stands now, it sounds like it sounds and how much practice he may or may not need to improve doesn't mean a thing to me.
Also, I'm perfectly fine on this message board and differing opinions. I don't try to make snarky statements about how so and so needs practice to get better or tell them what board they need to be on. I'm not trying to convince anyone who thinks it sounds good that they're wrong. Get over yourself.
You're acting like I said the guy should close up shop or something.
You don't get to tell people what expectations they're allowed to have.
BigTuna109
Member
"Colin was right" is kind of an inside joke or saying that's been thrown around by both him and the Beyond/KindaFunny community for years. The community has been asking him to do a segment about his specific opinions and perspective for a while. This new segment is just his response to demand by his fans. Kinda Funny makes hours of content every week. I really doubt he's going to add a bunch of production value or comedy just for fluff. Unless the videos start getting tons of traffic. The segment is very targeted at Kinda Funny fans and people who value Colin's specific perspective. He's a well-worded person whether you agree with him or not. If you want a bunch of jokes, look elsewhere.
Edit: It's also really annoying that people are just talking about Colin instead of the actual topic if the video which brought up A LOT of really good points, was well worded, and seems like a perfect foundation to start a really good discussion about the Switch
Edit: didn't even mean to quote anyone lol
Edit: It's also really annoying that people are just talking about Colin instead of the actual topic if the video which brought up A LOT of really good points, was well worded, and seems like a perfect foundation to start a really good discussion about the Switch
Edit: didn't even mean to quote anyone lol
I dunno, the radio show i listen to in the morning (which the people on it by no means are gamers or even technically savvy) mentioned the switch. They actually called it "Nintendos new game console" and said "it sounds pretty cool". For whatever thats worth.
actually recognizing it as a new console is a step up from the wii u at least.
actually recognizing it as a new console is a step up from the wii u at least.
moltonasty
Member
This just reminded me of the infamous Reggie and Geoff interview. Geoff is one of the few to actually call shit out to his face, that I've seen.
"JUST PLAY THE GAME"
Guardian Monkey
Member
I agree some other stuff about the switch like the online are a bit crazy right now with what we know. Also has trophy support been dismissed? Seeing that we haven't learned much about the os, I am not sure what to think. Most of the other stuff he is just speculating as fact.
I mean is this dude really surprised that a console that is also a handheld wont get true ports? Seriously? Seeing that the console was just finalized not so long ago how would there be a lot of new games for the system out at launch for third party. Give it some time. Even some of the console he mentioned that had less launch titles did well. Yeah xbox and ps4 had cod, battlefield, assassins creed at launch which were ports! Are we contradicting much yet?
Does he not realize that each joy-con is a controller? Does he not realize that 3 year old p4 controllers are msrp at 64.95? Does he not realize that the controllers open up more play styles than just a normal controller. Yes I dont know who wants to count ice. But there will be other games that will be out that will take advantage of this. In what capacity who knows.
I would think he would cancel the preorder to get someone else to get a chance, of course we know what he will do...
I mean is this dude really surprised that a console that is also a handheld wont get true ports? Seriously? Seeing that the console was just finalized not so long ago how would there be a lot of new games for the system out at launch for third party. Give it some time. Even some of the console he mentioned that had less launch titles did well. Yeah xbox and ps4 had cod, battlefield, assassins creed at launch which were ports! Are we contradicting much yet?
Does he not realize that each joy-con is a controller? Does he not realize that 3 year old p4 controllers are msrp at 64.95? Does he not realize that the controllers open up more play styles than just a normal controller. Yes I dont know who wants to count ice. But there will be other games that will be out that will take advantage of this. In what capacity who knows.
I would think he would cancel the preorder to get someone else to get a chance, of course we know what he will do...
The topic is Colin's opinion so why shouldn't people talk about him?
You're comparing him to his inspiration when he just starts. That's ... uhh ... pretty dumb. But sure I'll "get over myself" lol.
I can criticize your expectations all I want. If you don't like it add me to ignore.
RichiRamjag
Member
People just get testy when others criticize their favorite personality I guess.
Guardian Monkey
Member
It is fair game when a guy in the media is repetitively bias towards his own judgement to the point of fault. The guy is in his own capsule outside of reality. So yeah.
RichiRamjag
Member
Someone said that's who he's trying to be like in a reply to me. I don't think he sounds anything like the guy and said so. I didn't originally bring the other guy up. You're way too invested in the whole thing. Telling me what expectations I should have, how I should just be cool because the guy needs more practice. You sound crazy...
You'd think I called the guy a scumbag or said he shouldn't produce anymore vids. Anyhow, I've wasted way too much time on your rubbish. Had you just said you don't agree and think he'll get better with time, we'd both have saved some time. Anyhow, you have a nice day.
I typically don't mind him, but I'm not a fan of his scripted format with the new shows. Hopefully, he gets a bit more natural with it.
It's just a game console. Buy it when there are enough games are out that you want to play. It's not an investment. It's nothing to get distressed over, lol.
Guardian Monkey
Member
I couldn't stand listening to this guy after a few months of kinda of funny. This was the first thing I have listened to him in over a half a year, about few minutes in I clearly remembered why.
Happens all the time in Angry Joe threads. Maybe Colin threads are the new Angry threads.
Edit: Why doesn't Arlo have his own thread btw?
RichiRamjag
Member
There's a fanboy for anything nowadays. People too. That aside, I just checked out that arlo show and it was actually pretty good. Someone should make a thread.
Seriously. Hell, with a title called "Colin was Right", I'd say he is aware of the criticism and invites it.
teacupcopter
Banned
I get why he made this video as it's going to get him a lot of views. The funny thing is that he made this video without ever touching the system. Yes there are a lot of things that Nintendo fucked up at launch and the launch library is not as good as it should be. But people don't buy consoles based on its launch library. Early adopters take a risk because of the potential of the system.
Nintendo has already showed that the potential of this system is amazing. I can take some cool ass Nintendo games and play them anywhere. Plus, unlike Sony, I know more games are coming even if the system doesn't do well. The same can't be said for the PSVR or PSVITA.
I didn't buy a PS4 at launch because of its launch library. I bought it because of its potential. There were a ton of games on PS4 at launch, but I only ended up playing Resogun the most. And I could have played that "new" Call Of Duty, Assassins Creed, and the other ports on the PS3, but they ran better on PS4. It took awhile before the PS4 library starting gaining momentum. Just like it's going to take on the Switch.
There was nothing even close to Zelda. Yes, it is one game and you can play it on the Wii U. But can you play it on the toilet, on the plane, or wherever the f--- you want? That's pretty f'ing amazing.The selling point here isn't the launch library, it's the fact that you can take Nintendo games on the go.
And how many people actually have a Wii U? Pretty much nobody so the point is moot. Even Colin doesn't have a Wii U. The fact is if you want to play what is shaping up to be one of the best Zelda games ever, you have to own a Switch. And if you are a "core" gamer, you are going to want to play it somehow. And people who say they are going to play it on the Wii U are acting like its Nintendo's last great game. It's not. If you are going to want to play more great games like Zelda, you are going to have to get a Switch. Period.
Nintendo showed us a fucking cool ass Zelda game and Mario game. These are game of the year contenders not just ordinary games. The changes in these games have shown Nintendo is indeed listening to core gamers and I'm excited what other franchises they are going to overhaul.
The Switch already has the best Mario Kart game ever made, potentially the best Mario game, potentially the best Zelda game. Even if these games don't live up to the immensely high expectations at least Nintendo is trying something new with them.
In its first year Nintendo is giving us Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Snipperclips, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Splatoon 2, and Arms. That's not great but it decent for a console's first year. I would argue that is much stronger than Sony's first year even with 3rd party support.
It is clear that 3rd party support right now is not that great, but do you really expect 3rd party to be there in day one after the Wii U?
Nintendo is making an effort. Skyrim, Fifa, Sonic Mania, NBA 2k18, Fast Neo Racing, Dragon Quest , No More Heroes, Puyo Puyo Tetris, Rime, Super Bomberman R, Project Octopath Traveler, and Minecraft are coming. If the Switch does well, I'm sure 3rd party will open up a bigger catalog of games.
Also, Colin seems to just throw out false speculation to make his argument that Switch can't support 3rd party games. Given the fact that he gets paid to do what he does, he could have at least taken the time to research his wild claims instead of spewing out misinformation. Skyrim doesn't look like its based of the 5 year old version. Peter Moore already confirmed that Fifa is not based off a PS3 port.
From a developer standpoint, the fact that the Unreal Engine will run on the Switch means that it is much more powerful than the Wii U. Sure it's not as powerful as the PS4 an Xbox One, but you can't take those consoles on the go.
Also, I don't understand the argument that the peripherals cost so much. Unless Colin is getting his stuff for free, they have always been. I bought an extra dual shock 4 at $60 dollars at launch. My additional wireless Xbox One Controller was also $60.
Right now the online doesn't sound promising. The fact that you have to use your phone is pretty stupid. I don't think it is fair to complain now. When Nintendo formally announces all of the features, then we can complain. RIght now everything is based on hearsay and not a lot of information. One positive thing is Nintendo has said that Virtual Console purchases are going to be tied to our Nintendo account. That's a start.
I believe that the Nintendo Swtich is going to be great and Nintendo could have done a better job with its presentation. How you present something matters. They should have started with Zelda and ended with Mario and skipped the gimmicky stuff.
Here's the problem- I bought a NES through to Wii exclusively, and every Game boy/DS iteration. I'm as core nintendo as they get.
I just don't think of Zelda's or Mario titles as instant GOTYs anymore. Hell, I don't even consider them as instant good titles anymore. If you told me back in the heyday that I would wait on a NIntendo title, let alone a Zelda or Mario... I'd be shocked. It's just not a slam dunk anymore. Sure Zelda looks good, but I'm still gonna wait for reviews. And Mario... doesn't even necessarily look that good.
I basically did say I don't agree and that it's too early to compare him to one of the best in the business. But sure, "rubbish".
Never seen this thing before but in general I think more information should be delivered by Muppet.
RichiRamjag
Member
Lol. It really was better than I thought it'd be. Gonna check out his other stuff.
Dirtyshubb
Member
I have been one of colins biggest critics for a while but this was a great video with well thought out points and really plays well to colins strengths.
I had been warming up to getting a switch gradually (after falling out of love with Nintendo from the N64) and pretty much convinced myself I would get it but the stream just reinforced all my issues with Nintendo - Lack of games, shit third party support, terrible business decisions.
I may still pick one up but only once it's cheaper and has a good amount of games available because otherwise it really does seem like it will be zelda then a 6 month wait for Mario like Colin said.
I had been warming up to getting a switch gradually (after falling out of love with Nintendo from the N64) and pretty much convinced myself I would get it but the stream just reinforced all my issues with Nintendo - Lack of games, shit third party support, terrible business decisions.
I may still pick one up but only once it's cheaper and has a good amount of games available because otherwise it really does seem like it will be zelda then a 6 month wait for Mario like Colin said.
BlastProcessing
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He's not asking them to succeed, he's asking them to conform.
To put it in terms he would understand: Nintendo has designed a building and he wants them to slap a bunch of balconies on it because balconies are what everyone else is doing.
TheGameshark
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He isn't wrong. The Switch feels like Nintendo learned all the wrong things from the Wii U.
Chinbo37
Member
I never heard of this guy or the channel but he summed up how I felt about the system and especially the amount of games coming out.
It really feels light to me. I thought this would be merging handheld and console development so there should be at least all the games for wii u and 3ds combined.
The only system seller game Nintendo still has for me is zelda and I already bought a wii u for that game. I'm not going to get a switch to wait 5 years for the next zelda only to have it move to the switch 2.
It really feels light to me. I thought this would be merging handheld and console development so there should be at least all the games for wii u and 3ds combined.
The only system seller game Nintendo still has for me is zelda and I already bought a wii u for that game. I'm not going to get a switch to wait 5 years for the next zelda only to have it move to the switch 2.