Trump will ask for investigation into alleged voter fraud

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jrh2 said:
If this investigation is performed by a government agency, we won't be able to trust its results. In less than a week gag orders have been put in place to prevent agencies from publishing true facts. This is ridiculous.
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This isn't ridiculous, this has become outright scary.
 
Laevateinn said:
Fascist fuck.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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At first I thought the people claiming Trump was a fascist were just exaggerating, but I am starting to believe.
 
The point of any investigation is to obtain data and use them to draw conclusions. Trump already has his conclusion, so the data in this case won't matter. Look at his tweets: "people registered to vote in two states." "Dead people on voter registrations." I imagine those are fairly common occurrences. But just because they're there doesn't mean votes were illegally cast in their name. That distinction isn't going to matter to him. He'll label it under the blanket of VOTER FRAUD and go to sleep content that he actually won the popular vote and that he's secured re-election once all the new voter suppression laws get passed by the GOP.
 
"Depending on results, will strengthen voting procedures"

I take it that means if he finds the long dead and immigrants voted for him then no change or public release of information will happen? only some statement with 'alternate facts'
 
The American taxpayers should be so excited that he will be spending untold millions to validate his ego, and for literally no other reason.
 
He'll just invent whichever conclusion he pleases.

I'm fucking crowing at the notion of an unbiased "investigation" requested by Trump.
 
I don't expect even a little bit that somehow the investigation would result in a change in electoral votes that ends up making Hilary Clinton president, but man would it be an almost undeniable sign that there is a god or karma or something if Donald Trump's narcissism overthrew his presidency.

If this were fiction, that's what would totally happen.

But this is the real world :/
 
Particle Physicist said:
He doesn't. He will use this as a way to suppress votes in future elections. Guaranteed
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Yes he does. He's bitching about this in private and in closed door meetings. He doesn't even need this kind of insane reasoning to push for voter restrictions. The GOP is more than happy to run with that ball on no pretense whatsoever.

Remember he's not just saying there is voter fraud that needs to be eliminated. He's saying he actually won the popular vote.
 
CNN's not having it.

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TheOfficeMut said:
I can attest to this. Even some "liberal" coworkers here have been questioning the protests and saying that we need to unify, calling for their end and telling us to accept the election. Early-20s, white, Long Island males.

Sigh.
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I had a coworker tell me she was "never more embarrassed to be a woman" because of the March on Saturday. Got into a literal shouting match with her. I just can't anymore.
 
Nothing he mentioned is related to voter fraud. They're just issues with registered voter roles. People actually have to try and cast illegal votes but he doesn't want to look at that because he picked the things Pew found an issue with
 
When more minorities are targeted for voter suppression there needs to be mass civil revolt. We can't stand by and let our democratic institutions crumble under a delusional, authoritarian government.

The Black Panthers need to come back to protect the right to vote for African Americans.
 
Will North Carolina be one of those places?
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/606/just-what-i-wanted?act=2
After this year’s election, Republicans in North Carolina went out looking for cases of voter fraud - all over the state. It was hard to find, hard to prove—until they stumbled across what could have been the best present ever: a seemingly clear-cut case of Democrats out to rig the election. Producer Zoe Chace went to Bladen County, N.C. to investigate. (18 minutes)
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The only fraud was Republican (paid volunteers, paid by the ballot to acquire absentee ballots that the voters then didn't receive, those voters couldn't vote because "they had already voted using absentee ballot") which sounds like the investigation is ongoing.

But as the end basically points out Republicans want more controls because those things are a determent to the Democrat vote.

Bedameister said:
What if this will make Hillary win?
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For that reason he isn't investigating anywhere where he won. Just places that cost him the popular vote like California because like any great dictator Trump cares about popularity more than anything.
 
Lemonz said:
CNN's not having it.

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I'm very proud CNN took the kids gloves off. They only have more integrity for it, and perhaps have learned that their existence depends on them being frank about the truth and no repeating the administration's bullshit or taking their fake news accusations like dogs. At this point it seems like just a matter of time before Trump comes up with some paranoid delusion to intimidate and raid their offices over.
 
Starwolf_UK said:
Will North Carolina be one of those places?
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/606/just-what-i-wanted?act=2

The only fraud was Republican (paid volunteers, paid by the ballot to acquire absentee ballots that the voters then didn't receive, those voters couldn't vote because "they had already voted using absentee ballot") which sounds like the investigation is ongoing.

But as the end basically points out Republicans want more controls because those things are a determent to the Democrat vote.


For that reason he isn't investigating anywhere where he won. Just places that cost him the popular vote like California because like any great dictator Trump cares about popularity more than anything.
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That's not what he meant by "two states" by the way. He meant voters who are registered in multiple states.
 
I wonder if there will even actually be an investigation. They're gonna make up numbers anyway, might as well save some money by not doing it in the first place.
 
I'm concerned what will happen if Trump lasts 4 years. If he's not re-elected, he'll have four years of laying the groundwork for the idea of rigged election results.
 
When the investigation ends, the abstract of the final report will be couched in vague terms that give the slight, but very misguided appearance of voter fraud. This is what they will run with. However, if anyone takes a moment to read the rest of the report they'll find little to no evidence of voter fraud running rampant.
 
Hopefully whatever he does to try and suppress the vote or fudge the results will be illegal and result in leaks and eventual impeachment.
 
Joe Shlabotnik said:
That's not what he meant by "two states" by the way. He meant voters who are registered in multiple states.
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Which is the stupidest thing to investigate. Hell I could very well be registered in three at this point. I voted in two elections in MD, one in CA, and several in MA. Anyone who has moved around states probably has a few just because no one bothers to cancel their old registration and there's a lag time before you get purged off the voter rolls.
 
Didn't he win by something as low as 70k votes in some states?

He is saying 3 - 5 million voted illegally, I hope this backfires on him and we find out Hillary ended up winning the EC too along with the popular vote.
 
The Republicans will never pass up the chance to suppress the vote. If anything this election's results will cause them to redouble their efforts.
 
Damn, we've used our evil democrat influences to create millions of illegal votes without any officials noticing and without any evidence at all, but we put them all in California and New York and forgot to put any in swing states! Drat!
 
So Trump does the investigation, and on the small chance he finds voter fraud, but every instance voted for him multiple times. What will he do then? Pretend nothing was found and that voter fraud isn't actually an issue? That sounds like him.
 
BatDan said:
So Trump does the investigation, and on the small chance he finds voter fraud, but every instance voted for him multiple times. What will he do then? Pretend nothing was found and that voter fraud isn't actually an issue? That sounds like him.
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He'll suppress the fact that that was so or just outright lie and say that those voters voted democrat and enact his voting restriction legislation anyway.
 
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