Variety: YouTube Cancels PewDiePie Show, Pulls Channel from Premium Ad Program

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Granjinha said:
i don't mind a massive backlash, but people recently do tend to jump to conclusions pretty quickly

i'm pretty sure everyone is going with the mentality that he is a, i don't know, fasci/nazi/racist etc when in the video of the 'death to all jews' he is clearly shocked that the guys actually did it and doesn't find it ~so funny
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I do agree that people calling him a Nazi are reaching way too much, but I understand how so many are just tired of his dumb shit. Like, if he really didn't find it that funny, why upload that video at all? Why leave that part in? Why use Nazi imagery in other videos?
 
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Granjinha said:
yeah, this

a lot of people get a lot of unnecessary vitriol in the gaming community, so it's not like it's anything new tbf
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People get fired for being incompetent all the time. I don't care if it was ignorance, malice or aspiration for change that lead him to utilize the HOLOCAUST as a non-punchline for a non-joke with no satirical setup, but he deserves every bit of harm on his career.

Here is the holocaust again, just to refresh it in your mind:

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zeioIIDX said:
Of all things he could have had them write, he thinks of "Death to all Jews"? Come the fuck on now. You had this shit fucking coming. Having 50+ million subscribers does not make you untouchable. It makes the shit you say and do online more visible.
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Is there any phrase that's more outrageous than that one? He was kinda trying to make them say the most outlandish thing he could think. Whether or not the backlash is justified (it partially is, he probably shouldn't have uploaded it), is there any other phrase that would fit what he was going for more?
 
GonzoCR said:
I do agree that people calling him a Nazi are reaching way too much, but I understand how so many are just tired of his dumb shit. Like, if he really didn't find it that funny, why upload that video at all? Why leave that part in? Why use Nazi imagery in other videos?
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yeah, that was silly and i agree with the backlash, i just some people are reaching waaaaay to much

over the years he constantly proved to be a pretty nice guy, with charity streams and helping a lot of people, then he makes one (really, really) stupid mistake and he's a nazi all of a sudden?

that just doesn't sit well with me, but i don't disagree with people angry with it, i just think a lot of them are being really hyperbolic

4 is a cutie said:
But he's the one who paid them to do it in the first place and recorded it to use as new content. No one knows what anyone truly thinks, which is why actions will get you criticized regardless of intent
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that's exactly my point, though. No one knows what anyone truly thinks. People do like to take the worst of people for granted, though

kadotsu said:
People get fired for being incompetent all the time. I don't care if it was ignorance, malice or aspiration for change that lead him to utilize the HOLOCAUST as a non-punchline for a non-joke with no satirical setup, but he deserves every bit of harm on his career.

Here is the holocaust again, just to refresh it in your mind:
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just stop with the unecessary imagery. I do know what the holocaust was. Everybody does. Get of that high horse and read what i actually wrote after that first post.
 
Sheiter said:
I don't think that he hates Jews. I'm saying that Jews just straight up arn't treated like a "real minority". You arn't the only one to come into this thread saying that it was just a joke and he didn't mean it so I don't want you to think I'm trying to single your reply out or something, it's just something I've observed even here on Neogaf. The whole "He didn't really mean it" excuse would never cut it if this was any other minority group that Pewdiepie chose to make the target of his "joke" and that's bullshit.
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I get you. I personally believe I would be saying the same thing if it were another minority because I'm basing it on how I think of PewDiePie as a person currently but I understand what you're saying.

But I also see one or two other people in this thread treating this as "PC culture" and "liberal outrage," so perhaps I shouldn't even try to logically divide the intent from the result. In the end, it doesn't matter. What he did was wrong and what's happening is deserved.

Mechanized said:
pc culture gone way too far. Liberals turning into some fringe hard line group attacking anyone and anything seen as offensive.
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Liberal outrage? Seriously? Try walking into the office building or retail store or wherever you work and make a "joke" like this. You'd be out on your ass in 5 minutes.
 
Macchiato said:
From what I understand he's a generally good person, albeit one that's going through a creative and identity crisis and who tends to steamroll through the subtleties of what's an acceptable edgy joke and what's too far.

For a year or so now he seems to have been (unsuccessfully) trying to distance himself from his former kid-friendly, screams-at-vidya-games persona. I imagine this includes trying to garner an audience of older (at least, older than 14) people, or whoever enjoys Filthy Frank style content.

He's shown several times that he holds a lot of resentment towards different groups who try to mould him into roles he doesn't want (the media as misunderstanding him, his OG fans who want him to continue making Amnesia videos forever, etc). Right now he seems to feel like his current identity is Filthy Frank, except he's a lot more mainstream than him and as such can't get away with nearly as much.

Going back to the video in question, I absolutely do not think that he meant any harm in what he did. He just had very very poor judgement and allowed a knee jerk idea of "lol what if I asked them to write death to all jews would they do it OMG THEY DID LOL".

He seems like he feels remorse, and I don't think he deserves the vitriol from the community he's getting, but I do find it completely fair for companies to pull their support from him. Whether or not he was sincere in his antisemitism (which again, I absolutely don't think he was), I as a brand manager would not want an influencer who in part represents my brand displaying such a lack of good judgement.
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Could've agreed if it was a "happened once" case, but there wasn't just that video you are referencing.

Can you link me where he shows remorse, or says he's sorry btw ? And clearly distanced from the thing, too?
 
Cappa said:
My only reaction to the situation is how anyone can defend his actions with "its just a joke bro."

Like, people are saying his target audience isnt children but his humor reminds me of the typical 13 year old kids calling everyone the N word and f----ot on Xbox Live Call of Duty....

I dont get it, again, I dont think Ive ever watched any one of his videos but if this is the sort of "humor" that goes down in his videos than Im glad I havent.

Its not even about being racist or anti semitic... its just fucking retarded.
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Pure gold.
 
Granjinha said:
yeah, that was silly and i agree with the backlash, i just some people are reaching waaaaay to much

over the years he constantly proved to be a pretty nice guy, with charity streams and helping a lot of people, then he makes one (really, really) stupid mistake and he's a nazi all of a sudden?

that's exactly my point, though. No one knows what anyone truly thinks. People do like to take the worst of people for granted, though
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To be fair, you can be racist and still donate to charities
 
Macchiato said:
From what I understand he's a generally good person, albeit one that's going through a creative and identity crisis and who tends to steamroll through the subtleties of what's an acceptable edgy joke and what's too far.

For a year or so now he seems to have been (unsuccessfully) trying to distance himself from his former kid-friendly, screams-at-vidya-games persona. I imagine this includes trying to garner an audience of older (at least, older than 14) people, or whoever enjoys Filthy Frank style content.

He's shown several times that he holds a lot of resentment towards different groups who try to mould him into roles he doesn't want (the media as misunderstanding him, his OG fans who want him to continue making Amnesia videos forever, etc). Right now he seems to feel like his current identity is Filthy Frank, except he's a lot more mainstream than him and as such can't get away with nearly as much.

Going back to the video in question, I absolutely do not think that he meant any harm in what he did. He just had very very poor judgement and allowed a knee jerk idea of "lol what if I asked them to write death to all jews would they do it OMG THEY DID LOL".

He seems like he feels remorse, and I don't think he deserves the vitriol from the community he's getting, but I do find it completely fair for companies to pull their support from him. Whether or not he was sincere in his antisemitism (which again, I absolutely don't think he was), I as a brand manager would not want an influencer who in part represents my brand displaying such a lack of good judgement.
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I do sympathize with him wanting to distance himself from the videos he did in the past and what kind of mindframe that can put you in creatively... but he's been doubling down on this edgelord offensive stuff for too long. He HAD to know that it was eventually going to cause a break from Disney and Google.

Whether he deserves the vitriol? I mean, he's been getting shit on all his career in one way or another. I think it's absolutely deserved now because not only is this type of "humor" completely creatively bankrupt, it's also racist and a negative influence on the children who do still watch him.

I do like your post though, it's important to remember that this guy is a human being whose motivations probably don't include antisemitism. He's just flailing around trying to find a new creative niche and decided to be a bit lazy and land on this kind of dumb edgy humor. Lots of people have done so in the past so we shouldn't be shocked.
 
He may have alot of money but his ego won't let him enjoy it. If I were PewDiePie, would probably diversify my money before othet corporations start giving him the cold shoulder. Never saw the interest from him, but just like any othet human being, his creativeness brought him revenue and deals.
 
Christhor said:
Is there any phrase that's more outrageous than that one? He was kinda trying to make them say the most outlandish thing he could think. Whether or not the backlash is justified (it partially is, he probably shouldn't have uploaded it), is there any other phrase that would fit what he was going for more?
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I think the idea was that he was trying to see what people would do on Fiverr for money. Many people turned him down, but it was genuinely shocking that someone went through with it. It was him making a dumb decision to make the request, the people making the dumb decision to follow through, and once they actually did it, he was so shocked that he posted it (like an idiot). The "humor" didn't come from, "Haha, fuck the Jews", it came from, "Wow! I can't believe the did it."

It's like telling somebody to punch you in the face, getting punched in the face, being shocked they actually did it, and then trying to get sympathy for being punched in the face. It just doesn't work. In time, the person who got punched will realize, "boy, that logic didn't make sense, I'm dumb", but in the moment, it's like, "CAN YOU BELIEVE THEY HIT ME!?".

Dude should have slept on posting that video. He fucked up, and now unfortunately his career will suffer. I don't think "he's a Nazi", but I also think he should reconsider his audience when choosing the "jokes" he makes.
 
Why do you all love PewDiePie so much though? It's like you're falling on your sword for someone who doesn't even deserve your love.
 
see5harp said:
Why do you all love PewDiePie so much though? It's like you're falling on your sword for someone who doesn't even deserve your love.
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He's articulate and thoughtful when not trying to do some stupid schtick, donates to charity, and up to recently has seemed like a genuinely good dude and pretty good ambassador for video games in general.
 
Granjinha said:
To be fair, you also can also donate to charities, make stupid jokes, regret it and don't be a racist
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if you're making a joke at the expensive of someone else's race, you are racist. even if you take into account the idea he was flailing and trying to be an edgelord comedian, you have to have some seed of racism for THAT to pop into your head and be your go-to joke to get people laughing.
 
Also.. pewdiepie talked about this a few days ago. The article on the first page did not mention this
http://pewdie.tumblr.com/post/157160889655/just-to-clear-some-things-up
It came to my attention yesterday that some have been pointing to my videos and saying that I am giving credibility to the anti-Semitic movement, and my fans are part of it as well for watching. I don't want to cite the sources because I don't want to give them any more attention.

This originated from a video I made a couple of weeks ago. I was trying to show how crazy the modern world is, specifically some of the services available online. I picked something that seemed absurd to me—That people on Fiverr would say anything for 5 dollars.

I think it's important to say something and I want to make one thing clear: I am in no way supporting any kind of hateful attitudes.

I make videos for my audience. I think of the content that I create as entertainment, and not a place for any serious political commentary. I know my audience understand that and that is why they come to my channel. Though this was not my intention, I understand that these jokes were ultimately offensive.

As laughable as it is to believe that I might actually endorse these people, to anyone unsure on my standpoint regarding hate-based groups: No, I don't support these people in any way.

Thanks for reading.
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TVexperto said:
What is the difference between premium advertising program and the regular program?
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This:

Through Google Preferred, advertising inventory on the top 5% of all YouTube channels is reserved for buyers who purchased in advance. This program has advantages for both creators and advertisers; the former group sees its ad revenue go up thanks to increased demand, while the latter ensures its ads will run against relevant content and gains access to a number of measurement tools.
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kudoboi said:
Also.. pewdiepie talked about this a few days ago. The article on the first page did not mention this
http://pewdie.tumblr.com/post/157160889655/just-to-clear-some-things-up
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might as well post the whole thing (tumblr loads like shit on my phone)

just to clear some things up…

It came to my attention yesterday that some have been pointing to my videos and saying that I am giving credibility to the anti-Semitic movement, and my fans are part of it as well for watching. I don’t want to cite the sources because I don’t want to give them any more attention.

This originated from a video I made a couple of weeks ago. I was trying to show how crazy the modern world is, specifically some of the services available online. I picked something that seemed absurd to me—That people on Fiverr would say anything for 5 dollars.

I think it’s important to say something and I want to make one thing clear: I am in no way supporting any kind of hateful attitudes.

I make videos for my audience. I think of the content that I create as entertainment, and not a place for any serious political commentary. I know my audience understand that and that is why they come to my channel. Though this was not my intention, I understand that these jokes were ultimately offensive.

As laughable as it is to believe that I might actually endorse these people, to anyone unsure on my standpoint regarding hate-based groups: No, I don’t support these people in any way.

Thanks for reading.
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marrec said:
He's articulate and thoughtful when not trying to do some stupid schtick, donates to charity, and up to recently has seemed like a genuinely good dude and pretty good ambassador for video games in general.
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Doesn't he still do that 'rape!' shit after he said he wouldn't tho? But I do agree that all his charity work is pretty noble.


This is pretty suprising to me. Why would they cancel his show that already has the work put in? Low ratings? I just don't trust YT/Google corporate...
 
Macchiato said:
From what I understand he's a generally good person, albeit one that's going through a creative and identity crisis and who tends to steamroll through the subtleties of what's an acceptable edgy joke and what's too far.

For a year or so now he seems to have been (unsuccessfully) trying to distance himself from his former kid-friendly, screams-at-vidya-games persona. I imagine this includes trying to garner an audience of older (at least, older than 14) people, or whoever enjoys Filthy Frank style content.

He's shown several times that he holds a lot of resentment towards different groups who try to mould him into roles he doesn't want (the media as misunderstanding him, his OG fans who want him to continue making Amnesia videos forever, etc). Right now he seems to feel like his current identity is Filthy Frank, except he's a lot more mainstream than him and as such can't get away with nearly as much.

Going back to the video in question, I absolutely do not think that he meant any harm in what he did. He just had very very poor judgement and allowed a knee jerk idea of "lol what if I asked them to write death to all jews would they do it OMG THEY DID LOL".

He seems like he feels remorse, and I don't think he deserves the vitriol from the community he's getting, but I do find it completely fair for companies to pull their support from him. Whether or not he was sincere in his antisemitism (which again, I absolutely don't think he was), I as a brand manager would not want an influencer who in part represents my brand displaying such a lack of good judgement.
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Good post. From what I understand this wasn't a live video right? As such, you'd think he'd have a brand manager or someone who reviews this and says "hey, this is going too far". Or just he himself thinking "maybe this is a little much, I'll do something else". Honestly, the bit in that particular video could've had a similar effect if he just blurred out the text on the video.

Nevertheless, he deserves the repercussions and should learn from it. I'd like to believe he's not actually an Anti-Semite and just was trying to push being edgy way too far. Hope he learns from it.
 
Tinfoilhatsron said:
Doesn't he still do that 'rape!' shit after he said he wouldn't tho? But I do agree that all his charity work is pretty noble.


This is pretty suprising to me. Why would they cancel his show that already has the work put in? Low ratings? I just don't trust YT/Google corporate...
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To distance yourself from someone who is now affiliated with anti-semitism. Same reason other shows get the plug pulled if someone involved is in the spotlight for something very negative.
 
But I bet everyone here thinks Southpark is hilarious right?
Despite their constant Anti Semitism we still think they are funny?
 
Considering his target audience, he had to have known this was going to happen.

He might not want to be squeaky clean anymore but when you get as big as he has, its kind of hard to pivot into prank bullshit without it backfiring.
 
To all the gaffers that responded to my post, let me clarify: Yes, I'm a bit contrarian towards the Pewdipie situation because I feel a lot of posters here are breaking out the popcorn for him just hitting the internet lottery and getting paid thousands just to upload himself playing video games. That said, I've seen the video and in context it came off juvenile and unfunny. Couldn't he issues a public apology and remove the offensive videos?
 
Tinfoilhatsron said:
Doesn't he still do that 'rape!' shit after he said he wouldn't tho? But I do agree that all his charity work is pretty noble.


This is pretty suprising to me. Why would they cancel his show that already has the work put in? Low ratings? I just don't trust YT/Google corporate...
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No, he stopped doing those years ago
 
It's funny only in how faceless companies like to withdraw their support from the slightest of provocations. If you're a celebrity, you gotta walk real tiptoed with these things since anything can be taken out of context and smear your career out of nowhere regardless of what good you might have done.
 
Are we calling him out for his style of comedy? I mean he makes a lot of rape jokes as well shouldn't we call him out for that too?

Disney cutting ties and youtube trying to force him away from these kind of jokes is understandable, but calling him an anti-semite is a bit much.
 
KORNdoggy said:
if you're making a joke at the expensive of someone else's race, you are racist. even if you take into account the idea he was flailing and trying to be an edgelord comedian, you have to have some seed of racism for THAT to pop into your head and be your go-to joke to get people laughing.
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This is a simplistic view of this kind of stuff. if that was actually true, i could say that i'm 100% sure that at some point of your life you were racist, even if it wasn't with intent.

people grow up, live and learn to let go of stupid jokes and things that can offend or diminish other people based on their gender, race and etc. Some people take longer than others. No one is obligated to be pacient or understanding (cause honestly, this shit sucks), but in this case i don't think he had actually any ill sentiment in the videos he did. Not that he doesn't deserve flak for it, but calling him a nazi is, uh, something.

That line of thinking sure is an easy way to try to "fix" (as in you actually ain't gonna fix shit) things, though.

see5harp said:
Why do you all love PewDiePie so much though? It's like you're falling on your sword for someone who doesn't even deserve your love.
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because if you actually follow him closely he's a pretty cool guy all around? it's not like i LOVE the guy, but i enjoy what he does when he's not joking or making silly content

4 is a cutie said:
But where's the reason why someone shouldn't think PDP is racist?
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because he never was racist in any opportunity that he could be? And he actually sent a message trying to clarify things? (although if that is actually true or not could be proven false in the future)
 
Macchiato said:
From what I understand he's a generally good person, albeit one that's going through a creative and identity crisis and who tends to steamroll through the subtleties of what's an acceptable edgy joke and what's too far.

For a year or so now he seems to have been (unsuccessfully) trying to distance himself from his former kid-friendly, screams-at-vidya-games persona. I imagine this includes trying to garner an audience of older (at least, older than 14) people, or whoever enjoys Filthy Frank style content.

He's shown several times that he holds a lot of resentment towards different groups who try to mould him into roles he doesn't want (the media as misunderstanding him, his OG fans who want him to continue making Amnesia videos forever, etc). Right now he seems to feel like his current identity is Filthy Frank, except he's a lot more mainstream than him and as such can't get away with nearly as much.

Going back to the video in question, I absolutely do not think that he meant any harm in what he did. He just had very very poor judgement and allowed a knee jerk idea of "lol what if I asked them to write death to all jews would they do it OMG THEY DID LOL".

He seems like he feels remorse, and I don't think he deserves the vitriol from the community he's getting, but I do find it completely fair for companies to pull their support from him. Whether or not he was sincere in his antisemitism (which again, I absolutely don't think he was), I as a brand manager would not want an influencer who in part represents my brand displaying such a lack of good judgement.
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Oh, great post. Very much what I was trying to say, but put much more eloquently than I could have done.
 
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