He probably chose India because anti-semitism is rampant in the orient and is an easy target to make "jokes" about it.
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He probably chose India because anti-semitism is rampant in the orient and is an easy target to make "jokes" about it.
Hmm yeah I can see why people would think it's problematic because of the scope of his channel but the calls for him being a white supremacist are just as ill thought out. Need to watch the other videos.
Yep. The video where has a image of hitler and wears a maga hat? He's doing a parody of drama channels like DramaAlert and Scarce on that video, equating those channels to Nazis. He even puts the Scarce logo over the swastika to put the point further. How is this nazi propaganda?
Sorry but i cannot defend someone saying it is a 'joke' or it is 'sarcasm'. Younger viewers do not know the difference yet on what he showed 'death to jews' or 'hitler is a good guy' like i said in a post a few back.
It is still anti Semitic and it it stil has a huge influence towards his audience and that influence will make them think different about World War 2 on the things that did happen but yet this is not the place to do it. No matter how big your youtube channel is doing dumb shit like this will get to you and we see it now it happend.
It is still anti Semitic and it it stil has a huge influence towards his audience and that influence will make them think different about World War 2 on the things that did happen but yet this is not the place to do it. No matter how big your youtube channel is doing dumb shit like this will get to you and we see it now it happend.
-Mutsukki-
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You can't actually believe in what you just posted... right? Your argument started about something else entirely, that he was exploring these people, and now that you've been called out you're changing targets and saying that he planned it entirely knowing that India has problems with anti-semitism? Don't do that shit.
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It's funny, the constant complaints about the word "SJW" being used ( on this site ) as if sometimes it's not warranted. When there're are people on here actively advocating for a multimiliion dollar business (With more employees than just PewDiePie) to go under for making a joke about Keemstar being anti-semetic. People are being willfully ignorant about their "evidence", and using non-cited (these infamous 9 super racist videos) evidence to prove that PewDiePie is a bigot and deserves to be shut down.
It's head hunting, where the goal is to convince everyone that he's a piece of shit bigot racist.
It's head hunting, where the goal is to convince everyone that he's a piece of shit bigot racist.
Honestly, though, some people in these threads are saying that PewDiePie's a bad person and it's kind of confusing me. I'm not a fan of his comedy and I don't follow him, so maybe I'm missing something important. But just going from what I've read about him, it seems like he's a notably good guy. Big on charitable donations, displays a level of care about his product, actually considers criticism, etc.
While what he's done is stupid at the very least, what's strange to me is that PewDiePie doesn't seem to have shown personal responsibility for the incident. Maybe something has changed?
While what he's done is stupid at the very least, what's strange to me is that PewDiePie doesn't seem to have shown personal responsibility for the incident. Maybe something has changed?
White supremacist don't take responsibility for their atrocities. Its their thing.
-Mutsukki-
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He is immature. Again, before someone comes to jump on me, I am not excusing him in any way. But he is, he can't handle the consequences of his edgy jokes. He's between not wanting to do them but also want to do them because he's infatuated with iDubbz and FilthyFrank. Hopefully this is some wake up call for him
There's a high chance he will upload a video about this in the next 1 to 2 days
Show me proof that he's a white supremacist that isn't a video of him making fun of an actual noted racist.
Basically the Joke was poor made and he should have remarked it was directed to Keemstar, to the average viewer, they will not get it and call him "Anti-Semitic" and be morons about it, to the normal viewers, they know this is directed to Keemstar being Anti-semitist and racist and laugh about it and move on.
Here's the thing, the average viewer, the casual one, is the one pissed off because they don't know shit about what happens. They have to be explained but the joke is so much on the run for a long time that pewds never explains it. I mean, he has shat on Keemstar for a lot of videos.
Yeah I think he will appoligize one way or another. What an awful "joke" but he's too big and popular to fail. He is too important to YouTube, Disney, google for them to actually punish him for long.
On top of that, many younger stars benefit from this kind of publicity, good or bad. Pewdiepie is very intelligent, I wouldn't put it past him to have some grand scheme for this all being a publicity stunt.
Intent + context. If you honestly think this is "anti-semitic hate speech" you are out of your mind.
Yea I get a lot of that. To be fair, I never really discussed that particular joke only the quality of his jokes and content.
wenaldy
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Wow, pewds
Wew lad.
Anti-Jewish demonstrations are common in the east, I don't know what's so hard to understand about this. I never said India specifically has problem with anti-semitism, but places with people that look Indian sure do. When creating a video like PewDiePie did, the image is the message. Also, I made a post about this sentiment previously in the thread before you "called me out" about how these people were totally not exploited despite the disparate level of income related to the "joke".
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Boy Wander
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I'd say the goal is to make themselves feel better by shitting on someone famous who's fucked up. The guy made a big mistake and even if he didn't intend to offend , he has and he should grovel and apologize and eat whatever punishment his sponsors and YouTube hit him with. What gets me is, no apology will or amount of grovelling will be enough for some people. They need to see him burn. You have to ask yourself why that is.
But, again, he's come under fire for rape jokes before. And in that case, he acknowledged his mistake and decided to fix it. You would think that his way of handling issues would get better rather than worse. It's just strange to me; it makes me wonder if he's becoming bitter and hostile or something like that.
Fess
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Maybe he thought it was enough to show that he was shocked and say sorry and say that he isn't anti-semitic etc in the video when he saw that the dumb sign was actually made?
Because people can't stand that him making a video makes more money than they make in a month. Because him doing stupid shit gets paid more than the people working 10-12 hours a day.
That's the reason, there's nothing else.
Herbspiceguy
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He should have known better. It was a dumb joke, but people celebrating these consequences because they don't like his persona is pretty disgusting.
It's like some people finally found a legitimate reason to trash him. Some of the hate on display here is astounding.
It's like some people finally found a legitimate reason to trash him. Some of the hate on display here is astounding.
It's baffling how easy it is for some to excuse "death to all jews" as just a joke and shrug it off. Maybe I will do my own reaction video and take his video down the block to the local Jewish Center and record reactions. How do you think these will go? "Oh grandma, don't cry, it was just a joke. Can't you take a joke?"
Could have fooled me, been working over time in both threads downplaying his shit..
-Mutsukki-
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The thing is is that you should step down from commenting about something you clearly don't understand. The fact that it is India is inconsequential, you're talking like there's a huge market for people doing weird shit in front of a camera and that he could have chosen any country he wanted. You're being dishonest as fuck. These videos are in the same vein as Tyrone and stuff like that that are popular on 4chan, it's some guys doing weird stuff in front of a camera. The fact that he went specifically to these guys Fiver instead of just randomly searching for a service like this makes it plain clear that these guys, especifically these guys, went viral and people were having fun with it. It's not about India, it has absolutely no relation to the comment he wanted them to show. I'll ask again that you stop trying to create bullshit narratives like this, it makes you look bad and delusional.
Shit how weird it is for someone to comment on the same topic twice.
And yet here you are too
I don't watch his show (well I've watched enough to know I don't like it). But yeah if it's a children's show for sure Disney did the right thing. It's just stupid and parents shouldn't let their kids watch that shit.
This brings up a bigger problem for me, the parental controls on Youtube.
My niece watches such crap on there. She's 10 and was singing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vYnas6q3Sg
She also somehow watching Brickle Berry on Netflix.
At that age you can totally see how media changes their behaviour. Funny story, I let her watch The Exorcist with us and it went good, she was making fun of it and laughing. But for a month she was acting like a possessed demon child (kinda funny honest). Parents still need to take responsibility for what their kids watch.
Are you suggesting that PewDiePie did not expect them to make the sign after paying them to do so?
I don't think you've seen the internet before...
Apparently did he make some outrageous requests from other people as well but they refused.
Have you watched the video? He didn't think any of them were gonna make the videos he requested. Its the reason why he was shocked when he saw them actually doing it
-Mutsukki-
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I don't think you understand what something going viral is either. But this is over as you're just jumping around.
To be fair, the second game in the post also features a plethora of other more loved, more reputable youtubers as playable, if i recall correctly.
Fess
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That's what it seems like if you watch the video, he's just goofing around making jokes about the website and place an order and when the video with the sign plays he looks legit shocked just gaping with the hands over his mouth and starts apologising. Might've been acting though what do I know.
Funny enough, in the Gamergate days, "Tyrone" was flaunted by Gamergate as one of their supporters. You'd see images of him in a crown smiling next to images of feminists as trolls or EviLore as an elf.
well he is a nationalist treasure
SaniOYOYOY
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holy shit I never knew this... is this really a thing on youtube or he just exaggerates it because he is losing views. actually I never confirm with other youtuber about this loosing views thing. is that real?
Jeffolation
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When you start trafficking in Antisemitism actions like this should be the result of it. Good riddance.
-Mutsukki-
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I know, that's why I didn't refrain from citing 4chan on my post. I am painfully aware of where these things get popular.
I guess people defending shit-tards making anti-semetic jokes that kids are watching and looking up to and idolizing in the midst of a very real neo-nazi movement is on my pet peeve list. Obviously its not as important to others as the welfare of said shit-tard's image and youtube channel.
Boy Wander
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So where should it end? Should he be driven to ruin? Should he be labelled a white supremacist with very flimsy evidence? Or should he just apologize profusely and mean it, and eat whatever punishment comes his way.
Then let's blame Filthy Frank, iDubbbz, maxmoefoe, PhillipDeFranco, Pyrocynical and others who make the same kind of joke or commented on stuff breaking all SJW and PC's.
I think iDubbbz puts it clearly.
Heckler456
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Too bad. I actually like some of his playthrough of genuinely good games. Don't care for the rest of his stuff though, so I never ran into this side of him.
That being said though, people labeling him as "white supremacist"... I'm hardly surprised seeing it after reading the Colin Moriarty and Jonathan Blow threads, and seeing the same labels thrown at those people over far less, but seriously guys, you're devaluing the word. The guy got his comuppance for what is nothing but ignorantly making dumb-ass jokes, no need to slander him any further out of some need to make sure he gets got.
That being said though, people labeling him as "white supremacist"... I'm hardly surprised seeing it after reading the Colin Moriarty and Jonathan Blow threads, and seeing the same labels thrown at those people over far less, but seriously guys, you're devaluing the word. The guy got his comuppance for what is nothing but ignorantly making dumb-ass jokes, no need to slander him any further out of some need to make sure he gets got.
lol, are you serious? Do you even know how Fiver works? You don't "choose India". These were people who offered a very particular service and happened to be based there. It's not like you can choose any country you want and he maliciously chose India. He also purchased services from other people (in different countries). The fact that they were Indian is completely coincidental.
Now, in what refers to this whole situation: I do think the "joke" was tasteless and that he should have realised that before uploading the video, so whatever happens now is certainly on him. He has become a personality followed by millions and as others like him his actions have more repercusions that regular people's. This being said, I do also think that is being blown completely out of proportion, especially by the people that are now suggesting that Felix (PewDiePie) is an anti-semite, or extreme right-winger (or alt-right or whatever they call it now) or a racist. Someone on this thread even suggested that his viewers are alt-right, which is completely ridiculous.
This was just a poorly-planned joke that backfired terribly, as one should expect given its nature.
Also, the click-baity articles about it certainly give the wrong impression. One of them even says that he has published "nine anti-semitic videos" recently. He did have some videos that apparently had references to Hitler and Nazism, but unless you're willingly and actively promoting that ideology, it is not anti-semitism. That's like saying any production that in any way represents Nazism (like comedies or sketches like Mitchell and Webb "Are we the baddies?") is automatically promoting it, which is obviously untrue.
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Funny! People calling everyone literal Nazis and in turn downplaying actual terrible people is also on my pet peeves. But I guess it doesn't matter as long as you can call people a lot of names
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