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Maybe 10 years ago Nazi jokes were funny and "edgy". But right now there are actual Nazis and racists out -- it isn't funny anymore.

Such jokes were never funny for the vast majority of people and Nazis have always been around.

 

[Gravy Boat]

The people he paid 5 bucks to hold up "DEATH TO ALL JEWS".

How do we know they're poor? Because they're from India? I asked this earlier in the thread and never got an answer. I'm not trying to be pedantic here, I genuinely don't know how we know they're poor.

 

[Trey]

Anarchocommunists posit that there is no practical difference between hierarchy through the state and hierarchy through capital. There's probably a wikipedia article about it somewhere.

Yeah I remembered anarchocommunism and anarchocapitalism as I hit enter and didn't feel like splitting hairs.

 

[CrimsonGun]

It's not a competition, engaging in critical thinking and logical common sense should go hand in hand with any political leaning, the fact that you think this is about some sort of "Hijack" whilst protecting the "Modern term of liberal" tells me more about you than anything else could.

There is nothing for me to get over, I think you need to direct your anger towards people more deserving of it.

Listen man, I'm a man of principle (so are you probably). I just don't like it when one doesn't make their views clear. The vast majority of people associate certain ideologies with the term "liberal'. "Classical Liberal" Which people like Dave and followers like you claim to be are NOT liberal in the modern sense. You guys are much more aligned with conservatives in certain values (economically, international affairs, etc). You people simply are not liberals or even left wing. So forgive me for pointing out the intentional misleading that progressive bashing "classical liberals" are doing.

 

[Fliesen]

Yeah I remembered anarchocommunism and anarchocapitalism as I hit enter and didn't feel like splitting hairs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9UdsSuNEmE

 

[Hello? This is Hailun!]

There are literally anarchist communists rioting in the streets, attacking people and damaging property. Based on ideology and using tactics taught to them by their college professors. On the flipside, where are all these Nazis of which you speak?

Shooting people st Milo events and choking black people to death for selling loose cigarettes

 

[TheBlackMarvel]

Of course it is, why wouldn't you? Do you truly believe that, at the very least, there isn't a few people in here solely to shit on PDP just because he is a popular YouTube figure and they haven't even read about this subject and have instead, read the headline and already made their decision because, well, it's Pewdiepie?

I find it very interesting that you felt the need to call out my response but not his claim. Fuck your speculative bullshit too, if you want to make a stupid claim you can't even remotely begin to back up don't get upset when people treat it with the disdain it deserves.

For the record, I want you to know, I find PDP, completely lacking in humour, unoriginal, loud mouthed and boring, I have probably seen maybe 1-2 videos of his in that past that actually provoked some sort of laughing reaction, I think one was with his girlfriend and another was a jump scare video he did years ago.

I could give a fuck less about him or what he achieves, I am just capable of understanding that there is some logic in the fact some people hate him purely out of jealousy, that much should be obvious at this point.

This is 100% irrelevant to anything. I don't care what your opinion of Pewdiepie is. I didn't say anything about your opinion of Pewdiepie. I certainly never asked what your opinion of Pewdiepie was.

The way you responded to him was just dismissive and like I said, childish, instead of responding like that, why not respond with your reasoning as to why you disagree with him and why you feel that he is wrong in a mature manner?

I just don't understand how your approach is productive to open dialogue about things.

Thank you, Officer of the tone police. I sure am glad you were here to show me I was responding in the wrong way. Why the fuck is the onus to be mature on me?

Y'know what. Treat that as rhetorical. 'Cause you caping for Mx "You're all just jealous!" is adding nothing of any value to anyone's life.

 

[SaniOYOYOY]

Why? Because he would ban everyone that you think needs banning? If you are so concerned with people being banned why don't you apply to be a moderator?

Neogaf, like I have said many times, the motto of this site is "This is a neutral ground where facts and evidence, presented within the confines of civil, inclusive discourse, prevail through careful moderation."

People seem to forget that.

damn XD

 

[Hello? This is Hailun!]

How do we know they're poor? Because they're from India? I asked this earlier in the thread and never got an answer. I'm not trying to be pedantic here, I genuinely don't know how we know they're poor.

No you are absolutely being a pedant about it. The outrage is over what he paid them to do. Stop trying to derail it

 

[Silver Arrows]

Why? Because he would ban everyone that you think needs banning? If you are so concerned with people being banned why don't you apply to be a moderator?

Neogaf, like I have said many times, the motto of this site is "This is a neutral ground where facts and evidence, presented within the confines of civil, inclusive discourse, prevail through careful moderation."

People seem to forget that.

'facts and evidence' in this thread = fullblown neo-nazi bullshit

so yeah, this thread needed to be culled a long time ago

 

[Messofanego]

Just because the nazis claim it helped them, doesn't mean it actually helped them. If it did help them, it helped them because they got media exposure, media that misreported the situation for clicks and controversy.

The media helped Nazis like pewdiepie more, not himself because of his actions? Haha, that's a new one!

 

[Nepenthe]

Neogaf, like I have said many times, the motto of this site is "This is a neutral ground where facts and evidence, presented within the confines of civil, inclusive discourse, prevail through careful moderation."

People seem to forget that.

You think antisemitism is "civil, inclusive discourse" that should "prevail through careful moderation?"

 

[Nanashrew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxfUJmgiAvo&t=1s Can I just ask you, what do you think of this video? Watch it and then share your opinion with me on what she has to say.

I want nothing to do with Milo as he has harassed and doxxed my friends and sicked his followers on people bombarding them with hate when he had a Twitter account. He is dangerous and can fuck off. People I know, no longer have a Twitter account because of him and GamerGate because they are fearful to return because of harassers and Twitter doing nothing about harassment.

People coming to the defense of nazis also too can fuck off as you cannot extend an olive branch to them because they will use you and spit you out.

 

[DryvBy]

On the contrary: a thread that has tried to argue that the statement "Death to All Jews" isn't inherently antisemitic is the perfect place for antisemites to get froggy.

So I'm antisemitic now? Care to explain?

 

[Silver Arrows]

You think antisemitism is "civil, inclusive discourse" that should "prevail through careful moderation?"

The minute Bish saw that horseshit, this thread would have been nuked.

But apparently we need to include antisemitism as 'civil, inclusive discourse' considering the neo-Nazis won. Regressive left, amirite?

 

[Gravy Boat]

No you are absolutely being a pedant about it. The outrage is over what he paid them to do. Stop trying to derail it

No it's actually a really important part to get right. Claiming that the guys in the video are poor implies that PDP used a charitable donation to take advantage of them, and bribe them into doing something they didn't want to. This is a service these guys run. They have a YouTube called 'Fiverr Funny Guys' where they explicitly charge money to do things on request. Them being poor or not absolutely matters here.

Assuming they're poor is not only slightly racist on its own, but changes the entire dynamic of the interaction between PDP and Funny Guys.

 

[TheBlackMarvel]

So I'm antisemitic now? Care to explain?

How did you get that from what they wrote?

 

[jack_package_200]

The minute Bish saw that horseshit, this thread would have been nuked.

But apparently we need to include antisemitism as 'civil, inclusive discourse' considering the neo-Nazis won. Regressive left, amirite?

Bish come back to us.

 

[Hello? This is Hailun!]

No it's actually a really important part to get right.

no it isn't

 

[HStallion]

So I'm antisemitic now? Care to explain?

No he didnt call you an anti semite. Obnoxious? sure

 

[Gravy Boat]

no it isn't

You're right, I never thought of it that way before.

Apparently facts aren't important any more. Why is th fact he paid them so outrageous, and not the fact that they charged him for the 'service'?

 

[Mahonay]

Bish come back to us.

 

[jack_package_200]

Are you PDP? Then no he didnt call you an anti semite.

I think we found Pewdiepie's gaf account.

 

[Silver Arrows]

Trash is putting it lightly.

 

[Fliesen]

No he didnt call you an anti semite. Obnoxious? sure

and even then, the least people in this thread are calling pewdiepie an anti semite. At least not the ones actively discussing throughout the last few pages.

You think that pewdiepie is Anti-Semitic?

nope.

as a matter of fact, whoever would say 'Yes, Pewdiepie is antisemitic' please speak up, otherwise, let's bury that strawman, shall we?
People are calling him an idiot who made a bad joke that crossed a line which warranted the economic sanctions he's getting from his business partners.

 

[HStallion]

You think that pewdiepie is Anti-Semitic?

I'll say again you can have racist tendencies and not be burning down a synagogue. He doesn't seem to be frothing at the mouth to hate Jews but also clueless and ignorant enough to think this was a good and funny idea.

 

[Thabass]

Hope he invested well. Career is probably finished.

Not on your life. He still has his fan base. Some may leave, but most will stay.

 

[DryvBy]

No he didnt call you an anti semite. Obnoxious? sure

The guy was replying to another poster saying I didn't have a write to post what I posted, and said on the contrary "a thread that has tried to argue that the statement "Death to All Jews" isn't inherently antisemitic is the perfect place for antisemites to get froggy."

What do you actually think he meant?

 

[HStallion]

Not on your life. He still has his fan base. Some may leave, but most will stay.

I'm sure he is getting an influx of new fans over all of this

 

[TheBlackMarvel]

I'll say again you can have racist tendencies and not be burning down a synagogue. He doesn't seem to be frothing at the mouth to hate Jews but also clueless and ignorant enough to think this was a good idea.

People don't seem to be able to grasp this.

 

[tapedeck]

Damn homie, this is one of the best gifs I've ever seen.

 

[Nepenthe]

So I'm antisemitic now? Care to explain?

You just got ousted for voted for Trump and thus presumably support a government with Steve Bannon in it, and on top of that have been acting as if the claims of Nazism and white supremacy having seen a resurgence to the point where there are proponents of it high up in government are completely unfounded because it wasn't exactly like Hitler's brand.

Yeah, I'm gonna side-eye you a bit.

EDIT: Also, I don't like being that person, but I'm a woman. xP

 

[Ghandi]

[X] Pewdiepie made a bad "joke" and has received a (clearly) needed calling out for it. Those who have chosen to cut ties with him have made the right call. Pewdiepie is also an idiot for going down this path in the first place.

Thanks!

Spoiler

Cool you are good to go, the The thing that boggles my mind is the accusation of real antisemitism

Thank you, Officer of the tone police.(to Philosopher)

I wanted to be the Tone Officer!

Well yeah reason why he quoted you (I presume) and why I quoted you, was your way of conveying that you think every dicussion about an overreaction of the media or too hasty condemnation of Pewdipie is rather laughable.
While humor about earnest topics is nice and dandy, dismissive humor hinders a discussion to be healthy
But healthy discussions are cool man!

 

[HStallion]

The guy was replying to another poster saying I didn't have a write to post what I posted, and said on the contrary "a thread that has tried to argue that the statement "Death to All Jews" isn't inherently antisemitic is the perfect place for antisemites to get froggy."

What do you actually think he meant?

I'm thinking his comment hit pretty close to home with the way you keep going on about it.

 

[Gun Animal]

Listen man, I'm a man of principle (so are you probably). I just don't like it when one doesn't make their views clear. The vast majority of people associate certain ideologies with the term "liberal'. "Classical Liberal" Which people like Dave and followers like you claim to be are NOT liberal in the modern sense. You guys are much more aligned with conservatives in certain values (economically, international affairs, etc). You people simply are not liberals or even left wing. So forgive me for pointing out the intentional misleading that progressive bashing "classical liberals" are doing.

Everything makes sense once you understand that Conservatism isn't a real ideology. It's just Retro-Liberalism.

 

[Nepenthe]

You think that pewdiepie is Anti-Semitic?

I think he carelessly promoted Anti-Semitic messages because he's a dickstain. Whether or not he subscribes to any such ideology conscious doesn't matter that much in light of the probable harm caused, as we can see in this thread where Anti-Semites are coming out of the woodwork but you seem to not be all that concerned about it.