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[Joelstinton14]

The difference is far more than $5 in the UK..

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01GVQUX3U/

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N4ND1T2/

You're confusing RRP price with competitive pricing here. That £42 isn't RRP price. That is the price that Amazon decide to sell it at. At launch the DS4 would have been £49.99 or £59.99RRP and sold for that much (not sure which it was). If you want to see the true extent of what RRP costs, walk into Game.

Eventually, amazon will decide to price the Pro Controller lower to be competitive with other retail outlets.

 

[Muzicfreq]

It's not like you won't eventually be able to get the Pro Controller for a cheaper price as well though.

..............................
Wii U Pro controller $50 down to $45
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MUY0OFU/?tag=neogaf0e-20

 

[Cloggerdude]

Apparently it was just deconfirmed:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nintendoswitch/comments/5vracj

Man, I'm really disappointed in this. I was really looking forward to using my AirPods with this console. Bluetooth is just so convenient.

Oh well, maybe it will get added in later on.

 

[Inferno313]

Switch will have a far better first year than Wii U.

I don't know man, the first 9 months of the WiiU had a great first-party lineup full of games like:

New Super Mario Bros U, Nintendoland, Game & Wario, and...

Wait.

Shit.

 

[Okami Haundo]

You's getting ripped off by the store.
$45 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LWVX2RG/?tag=neogaf0e-20

False. The post you replied to is referring to MSRP, which is $59.99 in the example you provided.

 

[LordKano]

The dock actually has spacers inside that touch the bezel to prevent the screen making contact with the dock.

Yeah, and note that no matter how the Switch is positionned inside the dock, it won't loose the signal. Even if you squeeze it inside the dock, it will stay.

 

[Rodin]

..............................
Wii U Pro controller $50 down to $45
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MUY0OFU/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I paid 35€ for it in 2014 on amazon.it, down from 54. Not sure what you're trying to prove here.

The fact is that MSRP they're pretty much the same price, except the Pro Controller offers vastly better battery and more new shit (NFC, HD Rumble, better gyroscopes). It's extremely easy to see the DS4 for its 69€ MSRP here in Europe, not to mention that special colors cost 5€ more, and yet there's no stupid crusade against it.

 

[WordAssassin]

Nobody is actually charging MSRP though or at the very least there are a ton of well known established players like Best Buy, Walmart, Target, Amazon ect... that are selling controllers for under 50 bucks.

I don't think it's make or break, but it's not just the bucks more either.

Also sure the Switch controller will go on sale, but that doesn't help at launch.

Nobody's charging MSRP for them now. They sure were then I bought my second controllers though ;____;

 

[Astral Dog]

I don't agree with this. While holidays are important, the system needs to be showing a sign of life and appeal during normal months. Look at the 3DS, they dropped the price because of this exact issue. Even then the system never fully recovered. If a piece of hardware can't sell well on a month to month basis, sales spikes at holidays or big releases are not going to save it.

Would that change anything?

This is more a Zelda launch tbh

 

[Jonneh3003]

Not sure if we've talked about this but if the battery dies all your progress is saved for the next boot up:
https://twitter.com/nintendeal/status/834798157426937856

 

[Broken Hope]

You're confusing RRP price with competitive pricing here. That £42 isn't RRP price. That is the price that Amazon decide to sell it at. At launch the DS4 would have been £49.99 or £59.99RRP and sold for that much (not sure which it was). If you want to see the true extent of what RRP costs, walk into Game.

Eventually, amazon will decide to price the Pro Controller lower to be competitive with other retail outlets.

DS4 is £44.99 in game so not much different to Amazon and still far below the Switch Pro controller.

 

[drotahorror]

nice

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

Not sure if we've talked about this but if the battery dies all your progress is saved for the next boot up:
https://twitter.com/nintendeal/status/834798157426937856

This is why being a Nintendo fan is so frustrating. Half the stuff they do is really awesome, like this. The other half involves fucking apps for basic functionality. It's a damn roller coaster lol.

 

[casey_contra]

Not sure if we've talked about this but if the battery dies all your progress is saved for the next boot up:
https://twitter.com/nintendeal/status/834798157426937856

Shhhhh... That's a good thing. We don't talk about good things here.

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Kidding, I'm super excited for this feature. 3DS was the worst at this.

 

[The Elite]

Not sure if we've talked about this but if the battery dies all your progress is saved for the next boot up:
https://twitter.com/nintendeal/status/834798157426937856

That would have to be something separate from an in game save? Some games don't let you save anywhere and since this wouldn't be a regular standby if the battery is dead I assume this is a system level save state. Does anything else do this?

 

[Vanillalite]

Nobody's charging MSRP for them now. They sure were then I bought my second controllers though ;____;

I mean now's what actually matters as it's about buying stuff in the current climate.

Is what it is. I don't think it's a massive deal to be honest, but it's not just $5 difference for perspective buyers currently.

 

[phanphare]

What a load of crap, only a nintendo fan would spin that as a positive.

what a garbage post. perhaps read the posts that detail why digital triggers are preferred in many instances instead of just lazily generalizing.

 

[Muzicfreq]

I'm just a gonna watch this thread seeing how there's spin doctors in here.

 

[Jonneh3003]

That would have to be something separate from an in game save? Some games don't let you save anywhere and since this wouldn't be a regular standby if the battery is dead I assume this is a system level save state. Does anything else do this?

I imagine it just boots the system back where you left off, like a suspend.

Shhhhh... That's a good thing. We don't talk about good things here.

Spoiler

Kidding, I'm super excited for this feature. 3DS was the worst at this.

I've been skimming through the last few pages and it can certainly feel like that's the case.

 

[notaskwid]

Not sure if we've talked about this but if the battery dies all your progress is saved for the next boot up:
https://twitter.com/nintendeal/status/834798157426937856

That's nice, it's like the Vita.

 

[Okami Haundo]

I'm not sure if previews have covered this at all, but I wonder if Switch will have any sort of device control via HDMI. I absolutely love being able to power up my PS4 and have it automatically turn on my TV for me. I have the same thing with my Xbox One but that's via the IR blaster.

It'd be amazing to plug the powered-on console into the dock and have it fire up my TV for me. Even better if it can send the signal for my TV to switch inputs as well.

 

[Jonneh3003]

That's nice, it's like the Vita.

Doesn't Vita reboot when the battery runs out? I rarely run out of battery because of how long sleep mode lasts for but I seem to recall the system restarting from scratch.

 

[lenovox1]

I was thinking of something along the lines of a notification light:

Seems redundant. There's already an LED notification light on the bottom corner.

I'm not sure if previews have covered this at all, but I wonder if Switch will have any sort of device control via HDMI. I absolutely love being able to power up my PS4 and have it automatically turn on my TV for me. I have the same thing with my Xbox One but that's via the IR blaster.

It'd be amazing to plug the powered-on console into the dock and have it fire up my TV for me. Even better if it can send the signal for my TV to switch inputs as well.

There are no HDMI-CEC options in the system settings, so no.

(Though you might have a TV that will automatically switch inputs if it receives an HDMI signal.)

 

[ErbilT]

A Nintendo fan here, still think the price of the Pro controller is too high. I'll likely get one, but $70 is kinda rough

In regards to the Virtual Console not being ready at launch, I'm okay with it. I pretty much decided that during the first month that the system is mainly going to be a Zelda only system with maybe a Bomberman purchase it I beat Zelda fast enough.

But yeah, the launch is okay, I hesitate to say weak because Zelda is an incredibly strong IP that will sell millions on name alone. Still, limited launch offerings has never stopped Nintendo from doing well in the past. N64 launched with Super Mario 64 and Pilotwings and it did pretty well. 3DS had a weak Nintendo only lineup with Nintendogs being the only standout, and it had garbage third party titles (save for Super Street Fighter 4).

So yeah, let's wait on writing the obituary. Give them a year.

 

[ksamedi]

What a load of crap, only a nintendo fan would spin that as a positive.

Yea..no

By that logic every game should be played with an analog stick. I prefer triggers to be clicky. Works better for a lot of gsmes.

 

[Sargon]

Yeah honestly, other people can use them to their hearts content but I hate the look and feel of screen protectors. Tempered glass ones are even worse.

What is wrong with tempered glass?

 

[notaskwid]

Doesn't Vita reboot when the battery runs out? I rarely run out of battery because of how long sleep mode lasts for but I seem to recall the system restarting from scratch.

No, you can resume your game if the console battery runs out. It just means that you'll have to wait a bit before you can turn on the device after starting to charge, I assume it's the same here.

 

[ryechu]

I've played a lot of Wii U games. I can't think of a single one that would have been made worse by having the triggers be analog.

The Big One, Splatoon. Also, a lot of ZR and ZL button inputs and platformers would have to be remapped to R and L, which depending on the ergonomics is not ideal, especially when they are main actions that you press a lot. Airstalling in 2d mario, grabbing barrels or rolling and groundpounding in DKC, dodging in bayonetta, You can get around these ones by remapping these common actions to the bumpers (still a negative btw), but there is no way to get around Splatoon with analog.

 

[Astral Dog]

How good is the Joycon Dog

 

[Kevin]

What kind of power bank are some of you guys buying for the Switch? Looking for some good recommendations.

 

[casey_contra]

What kind of power bank are some of you guys buying for the Switch? Looking for some good recommendations.

Lots of good suggestions in this thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1334910

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

It just occurred to me that I will very rarely use the system in portable mode...maybe I should spring for the charging grip so I don't have to drop the Joycons onto the system.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

Yea..no

By that logic every game should be played with an analog stick. I prefer triggers to be clicky. Works better for a lot of gsmes.

What? That's not the same at all. Your analogy makes no sense.

 

[Version 3.0]

Retail on PS4 and Xbox One controllers are 65 dollars.

Yeah. $65 -> $70 = "bumping it up a notch".

Also worth noting, $65 is MSRP, not the actually selling price. I've never seen one for over $60, even back near launch when I bought extras of both.

Accessory prices are out of control. Everyone's definitely recognized that it's an area where they can gouge the customers. Console prices have held fairly well over the years - even with all that tech packed in that didn't used to be there - but accessory prices have gone nuts. And any retailer can tell you, that's where they're "allowed" to make some money - the margins on consoles and games are terrible, but they're pretty good on accessories.

Just two generations ago, controllers were $20-$30 MSRP. I still have boxed Gamecube controllers and Dual Shock 2s that I bought as spares for $20 each. Not on sale. That was just their price, late that generation.

 

[Impulsor]

It just occurred to me that I will very rarely use the system in portable mode...maybe I should spring for the charging grip so I don't have to drop the Joycons onto the system.

get a pro controller. I think it's the better investment. DOuble battery life and more comfortable. Can be charged with any usb charger too.

 

[The Futurist]

How do you charge the pro controller?

 

[WordAssassin]

I mean now's what actually matters as it's about buying stuff in the current climate.

Is what it is. I don't think it's a massive deal to be honest, but it's not just $5 difference for perspective buyers currently.

I just think it's unfair to judge the price of a new piece of technology to the price of something that's been out for 3-4 years and regularly goes on sale.

To me it's like if Apple put out a $1000 laptop and then two years later they bring out a new one and charge $1000 for it and the old one is $800 and sometimes you can even get it for $700, people don't point to the old on-sale laptops and go "look at those, they're $300 cheaper than the new one, why's the new one cost so much"

The JoyCons pack a ton of tech in them. That's reason they're expensive #1. Some of it is new/relatively new tech, like the HD Rumble, reason #2. Also, they're tiny as fuck (which concerns me since I haven't held them yet and I have large-ish hands) and miniaturization of tech = more expensive, reason #3.

I don't like that a pair of JoyCons is $80 or that the Pro Controller is $70, but I understand why, and I think that pointing to older, on-sale items and saying they should be priced closer to them is ridiculous. That isn't how technology works.

 

[phanphare]

How do you charge the pro controller?

usb cable that it comes with

 

[The Futurist]

usb cable that it comes with

Cool. Thanks.

 

[Vitacat]

How do you charge the pro controller?

USB. Like the WiiU pro controller.

oops, /beaten

 

[FearlessBelgian]

Where is my Activity log ?

Not in parental control.

 

[Effect]

So we know for sure the joycon issue appears the further away you get in docked mode for those having the issue? No issues if you are within 6 feet? Issues depending on location and local interference?

 

[Hindl]

This is why being a Nintendo fan is so frustrating. Half the stuff they do is really awesome, like this. The other half involves fucking apps for basic functionality. It's a damn roller coaster lol.

This is my pain

 

[mrklaw]

Has Nintendo said if they're planning to use that sliver of screen that's poking up out of the dock for notifications or is that just to give you a grip to pull the device out?

IR light source to use as a pointer anchor point like a sensor bar?

 

[Inferno313]

IR light source to use as a pointer anchor point like a sensor bar?

Wouldn't that require that the Switch be directly below, or directly above, the screen?

 

[Mandelbo]

That would have to be something separate from an in game save? Some games don't let you save anywhere and since this wouldn't be a regular standby if the battery is dead I assume this is a system level save state. Does anything else do this?

Not saving in that sense - more like the game automatically gets suspended when the battery hits a certain point, so when you connect it to power you'll resume from where you left off.

 

[Jonneh3003]

Where is my Activity log ?

Not in parental control.

But that's where it is.

 

[Dystify]

Hahaha Shibata kills it at 4:55.
P.s. I think the link is broken in your post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysccgk5SAGs

Oh sorry. I fixed it.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

get a pro controller. I think it's the better investment. DOuble battery life and more comfortable. Can be charged with any usb charger too.

I dunno, we'll see...I still rather like the idea of handing off one of the joy-cons to the wife for multiplayer.

 

[JustenP88]

I'm buying a Pro Controller just for the extra USB C Cable cable tbh

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Not being honest but I currently have 0 of those so it's nice.