House Republicans/Ryan Finally Release ACA Repeal (lol) and Replace (lol) Bill

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http://energycommerce.house.gov/sit...gov/files/documents/AmericanHealthCareAct.pdf

Some highlights:

1. Spends 10% of the bill on lottery winners (along with inheritances). I guess that will fill the missing money gap from repealing taxes!

2. Cadillac Tax postponed til 2025

3. $100 billion over 9 years for high risk pools

4. repeal individual mandate, replace with 30% surcharge for non-continuous coverage...so, you know, you can't afford insurance

5. Exempts Planned Parenthood from receiving federal reimbursement for normal medical procedures (you know, like cancer screenings)

6. Block Grants Medicaid, with expansion continuing to 2020.

7. Advanced Health Tax Credits up to $75k earners, then it hits a cliff. Combo of age and income based.

8. Additional $2 billion funding for NON-Medicaid Expansion states.

9. It's not the ACA, it's the AHCA...lol?

edits:

10. Allows Insurance Corps to decucts above $500k of things like CEO compensation. Handout to CEOs!

11. Older folks can now pay 5x what younger folks pay. Currently, the max is 3x the amount. Have fun, old fogies!

basically, it's Obamacare lite. But by lite, I mean screwing over the poor but trying to keep the same general framework of the ACA. Not scored by the CBO.

When I see more, I may update.

edit: Regarding #4 and the 30% surcharge, see:

‘‘SEC. 2711. ENCOURAGING CONTINUOUS HEALTH INSUR-
4 ANCE COVERAGE.
5 ‘‘(a) PENALTY APPLIED.—
6 ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—Notwithstanding section
7 2701, subject to the succeeding provisions of this
8 section, a health insurance issuer offering health in-
9 surance coverage in the individual or small group
10 market shall, in the case of an individual who is an
11 applicable policyholder of such coverage with respect
12 to an enforcement period applicable to enrollments
13 for a plan year beginning with plan year 2019 (or,
14 in the case of enrollments during a special enroll-
15 ment period, beginning with plan year 2018), in-
16 crease the monthly premium rate otherwise applica-
17 ble to such individual for such coverage during each
18 month of such period, by an amount determined
19 under paragraph (2).

‘‘(2) AMOUNT OF PENALTY.—The amount de-
21 termined under this paragraph for an applicable pol-
22 icyholder enrolling in health insurance coverage de-
23 scribed in paragraph (1) for a plan year, with re-
24 spect to each month during the enforcement period
25 applicable to enrollments for such plan year, is the


1 amount that is equal to 30 percent of the monthly
2 premium rate otherwise applicable to such applicable
3 policyholder for such coverage during such month.
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This is the penalty of 30% surcharge.


edit: WHAT THIS MEANS IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE FOR 2 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS, YOU PAY 30% MORE FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR OF COVERAGE (if you want to buy back into insurance coverage)!
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Vox has a new explainer: http://www.vox.com/2017/3/6/14829526/american-health-care-act-gop-replacement
 
Black Mamba said:
http://energycommerce.house.gov/sit...gov/files/documents/AmericanHealthCareAct.pdf

Some highlights:

1. Spends 10% of the bill on lottery winners (along with inheritances). I guess that will fill the missing money gap from repealing taxes!

2. Cadillac Tax postponed til 2025

3. $100 billion over 9 years for high risk pools

4. repeal individual mandate, replace with 30% surcharge for non-continuous coverage...so, you know, you can't afford insurance

5. Exempts Planned Parenthood from receiving federal reimbursement for normal medical procedures (you know, like cancer screenings)

6. Block Grants Medicaid, with expansion continuing to 2020.

7. Advanced Health Tax Credits up to $75k earners, then it hits a cliff. Combo of age and income based.

8. Additional $2 billion funding for NON-Medicaid Expansion states.

9. It's not the ACA, it's the AHCA...lol?

basically, it's Obamacare lite. But by lite, I mean screwing over the poor but trying to keep the same general framework of the ACA. Not scored by the CBO.

When I see more, I may update.
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Won't this piece of shit bill be filibustered to high heaven?
 
Doesn't #3 cost that much per year???

Like high risk healthcare costs that much each year for America. How can they pay for it with that math?
 
Pagusas said:
That's what the nuclear option is for right?
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They'd have to be insane to remove it for bills. Reid nuking it for cabinet picks was already considered nuts. Dems better win congress back in 2020 then and ram whatever they want through... Them nuking the filibuster will just result in party swaps every 4 years removing what the previous group did.
 
RiZ III said:
What does the surcharge mean? That people will have to pay 30% of the bill?
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They will pay 30% extra if they ever drop health insurance and want to go back.

The removal of funding for organisations that dare to support legal women's reproductive rights is disgraceful.
 
30% of what?

edit: I see

toddhunter said:
They will pay 30% extra if they ever drop health insurance and want to go back.

The removal of funding for organisations that dare to support legal women's reproductive rights is disgraceful.
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So basically, fuck you even MORE if you're poor and can't afford it in the first place.
 
This sounds like a shit bill that was made in the last weekend before it was "due" to be put out to the masses.

Exactly what the Republicans do, I guess.
 
‘‘SEC. 2711. ENCOURAGING CONTINUOUS HEALTH INSUR-
4 ANCE COVERAGE.
5 ‘‘(a) PENALTY APPLIED.—
6 ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—Notwithstanding section
7 2701, subject to the succeeding provisions of this
8 section, a health insurance issuer offering health in-
9 surance coverage in the individual or small group
10 market shall, in the case of an individual who is an
11 applicable policyholder of such coverage with respect
12 to an enforcement period applicable to enrollments
13 for a plan year beginning with plan year 2019 (or,
14 in the case of enrollments during a special enroll-
15 ment period, beginning with plan year 2018), in-
16 crease the monthly premium rate otherwise applica-
17 ble to such individual for such coverage during each
18 month of such period, by an amount determined
19 under paragraph (2).

‘‘(2) AMOUNT OF PENALTY.—The amount de-
21 termined under this paragraph for an applicable pol-
22 icyholder enrolling in health insurance coverage de-
23 scribed in paragraph (1) for a plan year, with re-
24 spect to each month during the enforcement period
25 applicable to enrollments for such plan year, is the


1 amount that is equal to 30 percent of the monthly
2 premium rate otherwise applicable to such applicable
3 policyholder for such coverage during such month.
Click to expand...

This is the penalty of 30% surcharge.


edit: WHAT THIS MEANS IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE FOR 2 CONSECUTIVE MONTHS, YOU PAY 30% MORE FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR OF COVERAGE!
 
Quick, everyone's distracted by Trump's wiretap BS, Russia and Muslim Ban 2.0...let's fuck over the poor tonight!
 
It's like some idiot thought "$10billion a year is a lot of money, surely it'll cover it all and then some." Meanwhile they save a few million on PBS, give the military
$100b more a year for to look tough and build a $50b wall. FFS.
 
Terrible plan, like absolutely terrible. El oh fucking el at the name though. Honestly surprised they didn't squeeze the word "freedom" in there.
 
Nice. They figured out a way to make insurance that was supposed to help the poor unaffordable by the poor.

Good job!
 
American Health Care Act sounds like a perfect Republican name for something.

In it comes their views it's of reason, it's accountable, and it's humane to people.

In reality, it is actively against any and all of those points, but Republicans are such disgusting fucking people they don't realize this, and will likely argue against any highlights of this.

A party of sociopaths.
 
Hilarious.

Any chance they get to screw over the poor, they take. Unreal.

Thankfully, the block grant/Medicaid looks like this is what will kill the bill. Even several republicans don't want this.

Under the Republican plan, the income-based tax credits would be replaced with credits that would rise with age.
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Wouldn't people just out of college have lower salaries and therefore need bigger credits?
 
Foffy said:
American Health Care Act sounds like a perfect Republican name for something.

In it comes their views it's of reason, it's accountable, and it's humane to people.

In reality, it is actively against any and all of those points, but Republicans are such disgusting fucking people they don't realize this, and will likely argue against any highlights of this.

A party of sociopaths.
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It's going to be even better when it blows up in Ryan and Trump's face. It's not passing congress.
 
LOL

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