JonTron (youtuber) speaks against demographic "invasion" of America by nonwhites

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I don't understand why so many gaming personalities turn out to be racists or xenophobes, not to mention sexists. What is it about this hobby that turns all these people into such shitbags?

You aren't exposed to different cultures and viewpoints as a gamer because of anonymity. Gamers sort of created their own tribalism with console wars. I don't think gamers are socially equipped to understand real life minority groups.

I understand most gamers live healthy, balanced lives, but there's always the ones who do not.
 
I would like to personally thank JonTron for doing that interview with Destiny and introducing me to a Twitch streamer I actually like, lol.

Stayed up and watched that stream for hours after the interview ended. So nice to find a gaming personality who is unabashedly progressive.

Just don't watch when he's playing league.

Or if you're into that, do watch. :D
 
The whole Grumps family seems rather left leaning, so it wouldn't surprise me.
I remember when I was sad about Jon leaving Grumps, but I grew to love Danny and now I'm glad Jon is not part of the group anymore.
Danny is a great and loving dude, he's a joy.

Danny seems like the most lovable dude on the planet. Like, he'd walk into a room full of ultra right wing fascists with bulldogs and SS uniforms...and 4 minutes later the entire room would be making fart jokes and arguing which My Little Pony did the most drugs.
 
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First off, this is Dunkey IRL

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Second, that statement is messed up
 
The whole Grumps family seems rather left leaning, so it wouldn't surprise me.
I remember when I was sad about Jon leaving Grumps, but I grew to love Danny and now I'm glad Jon is not part of the group anymore.
Danny is a great and loving dude, he's a joy.

Same here. I didn't really like Dan at first but he's amazing. Seems like the kind of guy who can just sit down and have a genuinely nice chat with anyone. I'd love to meet him one day.
 
So glad the grumps got some distance from this dude.

The funny thing is, it used to be that people thought Egoraptor was probably at fault for causing the break. After Jon started revealing his true nature, I think most people would probably conclude that Jon was always the problem. Like, he always said some shitty things, but I think we all saw him as a lovable goof that was saying silly things. However, there is a good chance that the grumps, who worked with him intimately, were confronted by who he was all along and they didn't like it.
 
Yeah, what is so wrong in considering people a danger for you just because there might be more people with a different skin color -___-
I swear, ethnicism is the worst crap. That's basically the best thing to ignore individuals and based reasoning on something as stupid as a skin color.
 
His views seems narrow and a extraordinaly dumb, but I enjoy his normal video output. TBF, I don't think any of his comments really deserve such an outrage.
 
The funny thing is, it used to be that people thought Egoraptor was probably at fault for causing the break. However, after the breakdown, I think most people would probably conclude that Jon was always the problem. Like, he always said some shitty things, but I think we all saw him as a lovable goof that was saying silly things. However, there is a good chance that the grumps were confronted by who we was all along and they didn't like it.
Another ironic thing; some people considered Arin secretly 'a bad person' because he regularly went and posted on /v/, whereas Jon was pure and innocent since he found 4chan 'scary'.

Surreal how things changed so quickly.
 
The hobby doesn't turn anyone into shitbags.
It has nothing to do with the hobby directly. Hobbies don't turn people in to shitbags, right? Haven't their views stood for a longtime and now they have an avenue to let others know how they feel?
It doesn't turn people into shitbags, but the nature of streaming/youtube is that *anyone* can get big with it and some of those people happen to be shitbags.
True. It's not about games themselves, but about these guys finding a platform on which to spread their hate. Still, I feel like gaming tends to attract many of these people. Though that could probably be because I'm not as invested in other hobbies or communities as I am here, so it could still happen elsewhere and I don't hear about it.

Probably because a lot of them are white men who don't interact with minorities very often. Also, if you step out of the GAF bubble the internet is an extremely racist place. I'm sure there's people here that preach tolerance but then go post slurs on 4chan since they're anonymous.
Yeah, you have all those racist subreddits and chan sites, plus Youtube comments and stuff. There are some really horrible places out there.
 
Another ironic thing; some people considered Arin secretly 'a bad person' because he regularly went and posted on /v/, whereas Jon was pure and innocent since he found 4chan 'scary'.

Surreal how things changed so quickly.

Yeah I always remember thinking Arin was the bad one just because he was more aggressive about his opinions
 
Late to the thread and still going through but...
After watching the stream (stealing from another gaffer)
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I mean fucking seriously.
 
I'm so glad I've never heard of this p.o.s until now. I don't even want to know why he seems to be well known or famous, I'll just forget the last 10 minutes of my life and it's like he never existed. Bliss :)
 
Listened to the stream, holy shit.

Also, don't feel bad for Jon, I'm sure he will be on Glenn Beck, or Fox or whatever cesspit tries to assimilate his popularity, next week.

I feel dirty for having ever been a fan, ugh.
 
Was he joking when he said immigrants entering the American gene pool was a problem?

That's a fucked up statement...

But this specific statement? Absolutely not harmful.

And holy shit, listening to JonTron on that stream. He is absolutely getting destroyed.

Hahaha, now he's talking about "Muslim Riots" in Sweden. He doesn't know shit about Europe.
 
Is "politics" the new euphemism for being a bigot?

Oh he's a bigot - I'm more lamenting the implicit approval Twitter, etc. has been given as a place to put forward your views (bigoted or otherwise) by politicians.

It's puts more weight to the shit views posted as it has been legitimized as a channel.

It's a bit "old man shouts at clouds" but the increasing focus on "sound bites" (which is all Twitter, What'sup, etc are in the end) for important topics is a negative trend for me and its worsening not improving our society and behavior.

None of these topics should be sound bites yet increasingly that's all they are.
 
That's a fucked up statement...

But this specific statement? Absolutely not harmful.

And holy shit, listening to JonTron on that stream. He is absolutely getting destroyed.

Hahaha, now he's talking about "Muslim Riots" in Sweden. He doesn't know shit about Europe.

I mean, the issue with that is, the despite it being a joke at the time. His newly aired views shed a completely new light on it.
 
His views seems narrow and a extraordinaly dumb, but I enjoy his normal video output. TBF, I don't think any of his comments really deserve such an outrage.

That's a fucked up statement...

But this specific statement? Absolutely not harmful.

And holy shit, listening to JonTron on that stream. He is absolutely getting destroyed.

Hahaha, now he's talking about "Muslim Riots" in Sweden. He doesn't know shit about Europe.

Maybe see everything he's saying before saying people shouldn't be unhappy?
 
Maybe see everything he's saying before saying people shouldn't be unhappy?

No, still, it's just stupid. Maybe it's just me, but I don't care about YouTubers opinions on political stuff they obviously know shit about. I think it's funny.

I still think that yt comment is a joke, this stream does not make Jon a KKK supporter or a nazi.
 
That's a fucked up statement...

But this specific statement? Absolutely not harmful.

And holy shit, listening to JonTron on that stream. He is absolutely getting destroyed.

Hahaha, now he's talking about "Muslim Riots" in Sweden. He doesn't know shit about Europe.

That statement doesn't live in a vacum however. Someone who is extremely misinformed and racist said that.
 
I don't understand the line of argument where (I presume) liberals are "hypocritical" for thinking racial homogeneity is fine in countries like Japan. I don't feel strongly about how they run their country because their culture has nothing to do with mine, so I don't say anything. But if pressed, I totally think that the lack of diversity in other countries is fucking pathetic, their weakness not strength. We should take it a sign of pride that other people want to come live in the west, a sign of integrity that we want them, and understand that it is this attitude and the results that we get out of it that continues to make us great.
 
No, still, it's just stupid. Maybe it's just me, but I don't care about YouTubers opinions on political stuff they obviously know shit about. I think it's funny.

I still think that yt comment is a joke, this stream does not make Jon a KKK supporter or a nazi.

He's a very open white supremacist. I'm not sure not being a Nazi or KKK supporter is particularly meaningful given the intensity of his recent comments. Being a youtuber doesn't escuse white supremacy. I don't think there's anything funny about it at all
 
No, still, it's just stupid. Maybe it's just me, but I don't care about YouTubers opinions on political stuff they obviously know shit about. I think it's funny.

I still think that yt comment is a joke, this stream does not make Jon a KKK supporter or a nazi.

I mean he errorneously thinks black people commit more crimes than whites, thinks immigrants need to be kept out to keep the white American gene pool pure, thinks tribalism is good, that discrimination doesn't exist in the West...

He's exactly in line with the Klan.
 
No, still, it's just stupid. Maybe it's just me, but I don't care about YouTubers opinions on political stuff they obviously know shit about. I think it's funny.

I still think that yt comment is a joke, this stream does not make Jon a KKK supporter or a nazi.

I think it is silly for anyone to focus on that one comment (which was clearly a joke). There are SO MANY comments he made that weren't jokes while simultaneously being more offensive...
 
No, still, it's just stupid. Maybe it's just me, but I don't care about YouTubers opinions on political stuff they obviously know shit about. I think it's funny.

I still think that yt comment is a joke, this stream does not make Jon a KKK supporter or a nazi.
Its not really funny when he says that most of my race is on welfare and will commit crimes.
 
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