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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild |OT2| It's 98 All Over Again
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That's part of the genius of this game and the best break with series conventions. You have all the tools you need, now figure out how to apply them.
victreeb3l
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I suck at puzzles so I felt like a genius when things clicked for me. I do wish the dungeons were longer and the bosses were stronger but I'm satisfied with the two I've experienced so far.
Your comments about enemies are spot on though. Hope theres more variety on the next game. That being said, I'm terrible at the combat in this game so I still find some of the enemies difficult. If I get mobbed by more than 1 Lizalfos, I'm screwed. And Lizalfos in different regions fight differently so I have to be smart about those encounters as well.
Encountered my first Lynels today. Took me about ten or so attempts to learn the basics but then defeated two in quick succession.
Lynels with a club seem to be a Right pain in the arse. Their attack when they hold it two handed vertically above their heads, I was successfully dodging and setting myself up for a flurry attack but still being caught in the shock wave. Most of my deaths were from that attack tbh.
TheCowboyPoet
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That's the divine beast isn't it?
It's not only "figure out how to apply them." It's more liberating. It's "choose how to apply them." There are often various solutions to problems, and the player decides on the execution.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
A lot of people seem to have trouble with it...but it's PAINFULLY easy once you know the trick.
If you just want a hint, just try to think of what the girl in the cage says about what she knows about the Yiga.
Spoiler tagging just in case you want to figure it out yourself...
The Yiga are OBSESSED with Bananas, you can distract them easily by tossing Bananas from the rafters, which will cause a yiga guard to abandon his post and go devour the delicious banana
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
I think the dungeons are better because you have to think wholistically. Previous dungeons were usually just a set of roadblocks in which you needed keys or an item from elsewhere to progress. Sure, these were potentially shorter if everything clicked instantly, but there were so many people here that got stuck with the small cog on the "first" dungeon. That just demonstrated that even at that point of the game, people still haven't mastered the tools they were given at the beginning of the game, and I think that is amazing.
victreeb3l
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Creature spoiler:
So I've been seeing a
Is he a boss? Should I engage?
Yup. I think I've seen 3 different solutions to a
in the Gerudo one for example. Thats awesome.
So I've been seeing a
majestic flying electric dragon with an awesome theme music in almost every region I've visited. I feel like this guy is following me.
Yup. I think I've seen 3 different solutions to a
terminal
casey_contra
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You have to upgrade your armor or take defense potions or both. Lynels hit me for 1/4 heart or 1 heart.
What saved me was not a stealth potion but a strong speed potion. That plus look high at the wooden supports with a banana on.
This is exactly how I feel after one dungeon (Ruta).
Not a boss. You can't fight it. But try shooting it with arrows in different parts of its body.
For me also, I considered each divine beast quest to be an organic whole - the trek to the civilization, the small little tasks, the preparation out, the entry into the machine, interactions with the pilot, and then the puzzles within. I quite enjoyed the entire structure, which provided some freshness from general exploration and wandering.
victreeb3l
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I caught a horse.
It's also kind of amazing how much more powerful Link gets in this game. There was a
here. It's gone now. And not a scratch on Link. Stasis+ makes dangerous foes sad. Being able to freeze them mid attack, then carefully walk behind them and hit.
A rather sizable horse. Named it Tiny. Because of course I did.
It's also kind of amazing how much more powerful Link gets in this game. There was a
Blue Haired Lynel
Yeah, I feel the same way. It plays like an evolution of what they did with Skyward Sword, where the lead up to dungeons was often a dungeon-like endeavor.
Edit: nvm someone else answered it.
victreeb3l
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Indeed. When I first saw the peaks, I tried to recreate the final shot of the first BoTW trailer with the peaks in the background and the guardian in the foreground. I gasped when I first saw it.
Saw your comment before the edit. I did and promptly nope'd out of there. This was like 30 hours ago however and I think I'm prepared to go back up again.
Even without the hint, they kind of hit you over the head
with all the platforms with bananas
AndrewDean84xX
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Does the NA version allow for Japanese voice acting? Not to harp on the bad voice acting for the character Zelda, but boy is she awful. Everyone else seems ok.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Three things got me through here:
- Stealth outfit from Kakariko
- Upgraded Stasis rune from Purah (works on enemies)
- You can backstab enemies you sneak up on
- Upgraded Stasis rune from Purah (works on enemies)
- You can backstab enemies you sneak up on
Other than that make extra sure there aren't any enemies you don't see before you make a move, I got caught like three times in the same spot before I realized there was a dude I didn't notice.
Effigenius
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It's not so bad.
As you walk in, (After you get past the first part by shooting the plank holding the banana and making it drop) it's basically all the way to the end and to the right.
Use your high areas. When you come in, turn left and immediately climb the ladder and collect the treasure chest and all the bananas. Then drop down onto the canopy( (I think it's red?) so you're still above all the enemies, but below where you were) and you'll see a ledge with a banana on it . Shoot a arrow at the plank to drop the banana and the patrolling guy will go get. Then glide to the ladder behind him. Go up it. Now walk over to the exit (Still up in the rafters). You'll see it's guarded. Stand a ways in front of the guard up on the planks and drop a banana in front of him. He will run for it, then glide to the exit behind him.
Use your high areas. When you come in, turn left and immediately climb the ladder and collect the treasure chest and all the bananas. Then drop down onto the canopy( (I think it's red?) so you're still above all the enemies, but below where you were) and you'll see a ledge with a banana on it . Shoot a arrow at the plank to drop the banana and the patrolling guy will go get. Then glide to the ladder behind him. Go up it. Now walk over to the exit (Still up in the rafters). You'll see it's guarded. Stand a ways in front of the guard up on the planks and drop a banana in front of him. He will run for it, then glide to the exit behind him.
casey_contra
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The boss battle at the end of this area reminded me very much of a "classic Zelda boss." Anyone else feel that way?
Definitely feels like one of the most Zelda-y bosses I've fought so far. Right down to
him being super quirky lol.
I sorta wish they tried to make the Yiga more genuinely creepy and delved in to why they are supporting Ganon / trying to kill you.
You gotta either parry it or get a really good shield. I learned that the hard way.
I really, really, love fighting in this game. there is few things like the adrenaline surge you get when fighting a lynel on low health or taking an enemy outpost head on and being bumrushed by 5 endgame minor enemies and 2 moblins. I really want to fight Dark Link in this battle system.
Shadow Broker
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I didn't think sneak strike worked on the guards. I assumed it wouldn't cause my regular strikes does little damage. I have the stealth gear and it's my primary gear but I think I've just been playing the level worng.
I got the hint but just now found out that you can throw food you hold further away from your body. I always thought you could only drop food in front of you and never tried to extend the drop area. Dumb mistake on my part but now I know and it changes everything.
Yeah, I just played the level wrong over and over. It never occurred to me to use the upper level. I was head strong on being in the thick of things.
Thanks for all the feed back.
I was genuinely surprised by the new approach to dungeons. Puzzles being seemlessly intertwined with the very structure of a dungeon is pretty clever and unique in the context of the series. It's also quite an elegant way to make sure that every player is properly equipped for every dungeon, since the kind of puzzles that the player will encounter aren't tied to specific items anymore.
They are preeeetty short, though. It's probably fair to say that proper dungeons were the one thing that had to suffer from BotW's open world. It's gonna be interesting what dungeons will be like in a follow-up to BotW; now that the developers have more or less figured out what a Zelda in an open-world environment should play like, they might have more time thinking about dungeons.
It's also gonna be really interesting what the DLC dungeon will be like, though.
They are preeeetty short, though. It's probably fair to say that proper dungeons were the one thing that had to suffer from BotW's open world. It's gonna be interesting what dungeons will be like in a follow-up to BotW; now that the developers have more or less figured out what a Zelda in an open-world environment should play like, they might have more time thinking about dungeons.
It's also gonna be really interesting what the DLC dungeon will be like, though.
bizzarewars
Banned
Finally caved in and bought this for Wii U after spending most of last week looking for a Switch. Excited to finally play.
It's even easier than that, considering you can
skip the entire second room by climbing along the "windows" on the upper floor. This way you'll have to bother with just a single Yiga in the second room.
So, in a trace of pure delusions of grandeur I simply wondered if I could actually climb the highest point of Hyrule Castle.
That was not my intention at all - I had a whole different plan of course that put me near the castle and I figured...well, why not just try to get on top. Doesn't mean I have to fight Ganon or something.
And I indeed managed to sneak on top of the castle and now I'm hanging here in this fantastic atmosphere of doom and I'm pumped!
I'm really thinking of confronting Ganon even though I originally planned to do this at the very, very end of my journey to have this emotional closure (haven't even beaten all the dungeons, yet).
So basically my question is: can I enter the fight and use up all my weapons (which probably all get destroyed) and meals and in case of a win / failure still have them? I don't wanna start fresh with my entire inventory depending how the fight goes.
That was not my intention at all - I had a whole different plan of course that put me near the castle and I figured...well, why not just try to get on top. Doesn't mean I have to fight Ganon or something.
And I indeed managed to sneak on top of the castle and now I'm hanging here in this fantastic atmosphere of doom and I'm pumped!
I'm really thinking of confronting Ganon even though I originally planned to do this at the very, very end of my journey to have this emotional closure (haven't even beaten all the dungeons, yet).
So basically my question is: can I enter the fight and use up all my weapons (which probably all get destroyed) and meals and in case of a win / failure still have them? I don't wanna start fresh with my entire inventory depending how the fight goes.
I think you keep everything whether you win or lose, when the save is reloaded.
My only open amiibo is a Japanese Charizard. Are non-Zelda amiibo supported?
You can also stunlock them with two-handed swords if you're quick enough. It prevents them from whistling.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
I know he is in the Goron City at least :3
Labombadog
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Parry up close and use Stasis+ when he's rushing towards you to avoid that attack.
edit: I meant use perfect dodge to use flurries. Not parry although that's also possible too.
The dungeon complaints are so short sighted man, really depresses me seeing all these people disappointed by that - look at the bigger picture with this game, look at the labrynths, look at how great some (most) of these shrines are, look at the outdoor challenges, look at the divine beasts - these great interactable mechanisms all within the living world. Your "dungeons" are all right there - staring you in the face - you're playing them during every waking moment of the game - they are just extrapolated across this incredible world, because that's the focus - the incredible world.
So many of you are getting hung up on the classical definition of a Zelda dungeon/temple, and missing out on the greatness that's right there in front of you the entire time
So many of you are getting hung up on the classical definition of a Zelda dungeon/temple, and missing out on the greatness that's right there in front of you the entire time
Chezzymann
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panama chief
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In BotW, most of the experiences are isolated, bite sized puzzles that end just as they are getting good. It makes why they did it, they needed a way to populate the world but it's not the same as being in a themed dungeon that builds upon itself as you go through it.
Whatever you have left to do becomes your post game.
Your percentage complete is tracked on the map after you beat Ganon.
This has something I've been saying since the beginning. They just took dungeons and chopped them into pieces and sprinkled them throughout the world. It gets rid of the boring stretches of nothing that plagued some of the other games, specifically TP, SS, and WW.
casey_contra
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Which bridge is this? I want to trigger this dialogue.
Pun intended?
yikes. tasteless. sorry,
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