Colin Moriarty is leaving Kinda Funny Games.

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It's an anti-federalist flag. Have anti-federalists overwhelmingly been conservatives attempting to justify discriminatory state laws? Yes. That doesn't mean it isn't an anti-federalist flag.

I think the point is that it stands for whatever they want, given their general inconsistency about when they choose to fly it.
 
Oh noes some1 tred on snek :(

On topic: I guess Greg and Co. got real fucking tired of the constant troll bait and decided to nope outta there. I wonder why now though? Did something happen to their bottom line.
 
I remember history class in middle school learning about state's rights and thinking, "Hmm, it's not such a bad idea."

In middle school.

People like Colin haven't grown beyond a pubescent state of mind.
 
It's an anti-federalist flag. Have anti-federalists overwhelmingly been conservatives attempting to justify discriminatory state laws? Yes. That doesn't mean it isn't an anti-federalist flag.
You're arguing flag semantics. It's been appropriated by people in modern times to fuel their pro-Southern agenda, so now the flag carries that baggage
 
Once something has been completely co-opted by different groups, the historical meaning becomes less important.

Anti-federalist principles are being applied to challenge the legality of the Trump's administrations attempts to prevent federal funding to sanctuary cities I guess that is furthering the alt right agenda, isn't it?

edit: Maybe everyone else is right. I'm not up on my dog whistles.
 
You're arguing flag semantics. It's been appropriated by people in modern times to fuel their pro-Southern agenda, so now the flag carries that baggage

I would've thought this states rights thing would be somewhat related to certain states wanting to protect their slavery economies too
 
Anti-federalist principles are being applied to challenge the legality of the Trump's administrations attempts to prevent federal funding to sanctuary cities I guess that is furthering the alt right agenda, isn't it?

But those people aren't flying those flags.

To note, I don't think Colin uses it in that context, but in many ways given its gross usage in many contexts it has lost its singular meaning.
 
Anti-federalist principles are being applied to challenge the legality of the Trump's administrations attempts to prevent federal funding to sanctuary cities I guess that is furthering the alt right agenda, isn't it?

You see people throwing that flag around to challenge Trump's agenda?
Because if it's only people wanting to throw the US back to 1820...
 
Is Colin and Greg still roommates? I wonder if there is any awkwardness between them now

Yes, they seem to suggest no awkwardness, but who knows for sure. They seemed fine when Colin appeared briefly on the stream this morning so I'm inclined to think they're fine, given the situation
 
If it walks like a duck....
You literally went from reading a linked WIKPEDIA article to calling people white nationalists.

There is an interesting conversation to be had here on historical meaning versus co opted as mentioned above.

However, I think it's a losing battle for historical meaning when you have examples like the Nazi flag.
 
For some reason I stopped watching Colin and Greg Live sometime in the middle of last year. It just stopped being entertaining to me; the dynamics between the two always felt off (even at IGN). One happy-go-lucky slapstick kinda character with this shrewd and unfunny political tinfoil hat guy made for a strange show, even though I respected them as humans. It was fun for a minute, but it grew old fast for me. Either way, I'm sad he's leaving.

I hope this doesn't mean we're going to get more of Tim Gettys. His opinions on everything are usually awful or full of fanboy bullshit.
 
It sounds like you know exactly what it means

It means he wishes the South won the war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag

It was a Revolutionary-era flag that was adopted by Libertopians and then gained wider acceptance when we elected a black President.

It's a flag from the American Revolutionary War that in more recent times has been used by libertarians and small government (tea party) types. Either way, right wing American politics.

Basically it's a generally good signifier that someone's going to hold some pretty ignorant or hateful views. The same way that someone with an anime avatar throwing out "SJW" probably doesn't have the greatest view of women.

It's an anti-federalist flag.
Oh good, I wasn't that far off the mark then.

No step on snek
Funny, I did when I was younger and first saw it think it was a educational warning regarding snakes, which in America has far more poisonous species than here in Sweden. So it made sort of sense. :P
 
You literally went from reading a linked WIKPEDIA article to calling people white nationalists.

There is an interesting conversation to be had here on historical meaning versus co opted as mentioned above.

However, I think it's a losing battle for historical meaning when you have examples like the Nazi flag.

Dude, you're being insensitive if you don't think the Don't Tread On Me flags aren't only used to further a very specific White agenda.
 
You literally went from reading a linked WIKPEDIA article to calling people white nationalists.

There is an interesting conversation to be had here on historical meaning versus co opted as mentioned above.

However, I think it's a losing battle for historical meaning when you have examples like the Nazi flag.

Let's be fair, unless you're reenacting a specific period in a show/set or something any and all meaning should be the current one or it's going to be goddamn confusing for everyone.
 
Flags? Come on guys. Symbols mean nothing, they can be interpreted any number of ways. Actions and words are concrete. We can discuss what he's said, but really debating the meaning of a flag? He said that white men should not stand up for Blacks, Native Americans or Women. We can talk about that since he did not mince words, and said what he meant. If you're defending Colin, are you defending those words?
 
He's kind of been a bit of a dick lately, but I used to look up to Colin a few years ago, so I still wish him the best in his future endeavors. I just wish he would show some more humility and admit when he's wrong. He holds some beliefs that I really don't agree with very much, but frankly if he is going into politics I'd rather him on the other side than some of these other people. I'm just probably not going to agree with half the shit he says.

Kinda Funny will be weird for a while. I'm sure they'll bring someone in. I don't know about Vince, but I think he'd fit in with the rest of the crew.
 
Let's be fair, unless you're reenacting a specific period in a show/set or something any and all meaning should be the current one or it's going to be goddamn confusing for everyone.
I agree, I should've been more clear. It was more of a response to that guy calling someone who got a tattoo of it in college a white nationalist.

Dude, you're being insensitive if you don't think the Don't Tread On Me flags aren't only used to further a very specific White agenda.
You said someone was a white nationalist based off his friend posting about a tattoo he got in college based off a Wikipedia article you read a few minutes ago.

I'm the insensitive one by talking about historical context and agreeing that the co opted meaning wins? Okay.
 
I agree, I should've been more clear. It was more of a response to that guy calling someone who got a tattoo of it in college a white nationalist.

Well... considering what the symbol means these days it's kinda like getting a tatoo of that
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I mean you can defend your celtic heritage all you want but people will still think you are a 'not so secret' nazi.
 
That's not what I said. Read the whole sentence. How you feel about him or anybody's opinion doesn't affect me. I'm talking about speaking freely about how you feel not anything to do about the presidency affecting me.

I don't do politics.

If somebody at work asks me so hey what do you think about trump. I'll say I guess he's president now. Hey did you beat your first thunderjaw yet??? Lol. I just appreciate how he spoke about games.....how he felt. If he didn't like a game he would just say that games shit, I hate it. He could care less what anybody thought or if it was offensive. I don't care if it's a game I think is the best in the world. He says what he feels and believes it. That's it.

Let me clarify:
It must be nice that how people feel about the president or his politics doesn't affect you.
 
Flags? Come on guys. Symbols mean nothing, they can be interpreted any number of ways. Actions and words are concrete. We can discuss what he's said, but really debating the meaning of a flag? He said that white men should not stand up for Blacks, Native Americans or Women. We can talk about that since he did not mince words, and said what he meant. If you're defending Colin, are you defending those words?
He did not say that. Don't know why that keeps getting repeated. He said they can defend themselves.
 
What pisses me off is that we won't be able to see them discuss any of this on any of their podcasts. The other guys might, but without Colin it won't mean much. I liked that these guys had honest discussions, but now they might just skirt around this whole thing which sucks. He didn't have to quit so quickly. Maybe just take time off and then decide. Ah well.
 
how the fuck do you throw accusations like that? explain how the fuck is he racist and sexist? and please don't fucking point to that stupid women's day joke.

I'd like to see one quote from Colin that made him 'racist' holy fuck are the mods seeing this shit?
 
What pisses me off is that we won't be able to see them discuss any of this on any of their podcasts. The other guys might, but without Colin it won't mean much. I liked that these guys had honest discussions, but now they might just skirt around this whole thing which sucks. He didn't have to quit so quickly. Maybe just take time off and then decide. Ah well.
He will be on the game over greggy show tomorrow discussing it.
They discussed it all on the morning show, that the way it happened worked out the best way possible. They all discuss it, Colin may have resigned but Greg still lives in his house, Colin sweeps the floor of the studio it's not all doom and gloom.
 
my opinions are very clear. I support Colin, I support everyone's right to say whatever they want and I am against echo chambers.

LOL! say the person who's in own one as well, no one can't particularly be against an "echo chamber" people just say that when they seem to be the minority in an overall topic/discussion/thread. if you were in the majority of the overall topic/discussion/thread you'd be singing a different tune.

the free speech semgent has truly be the most abused section of the first amendment; yes we have the right to say what we want to say but does not get you a free pass on the reactions from other people and the consequences that come with it; which it's amazing that people can't grasp this notion. No one is silencing Colin, no one is putting him in jail for his views, he doesn't have a bounty on his head, but what many are doing is voicing their opinion on what he said, the first amendment isn't a "safe space"


Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative doesn't work, and people should stop regurgitating it. How exactly can a person be truly socially liberal with extreme libertarian, small government, "notaxation" views, that actively affects society as a whole?

It's essentially an oxymoron to attempt and make incredibly selfish, "fuck you, got mine" types seem less shady.

Social and Economic can't actually be separated, unless of course, you're only serious about one of them.


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What pisses me off is that we won't be able to see them discuss any of this on any of their podcasts. The other guys might, but without Colin it won't mean much. I liked that these guys had honest discussions, but now they might just skirt around this whole thing which sucks. He didn't have to quit so quickly. Maybe just take time off and then decide. Ah well.
They are having him on GOG this week.
 
Explain to me the difference between "We shouldn't have to defend them" and "They can defend themselves".

Let me play devil's advocate for a second.
(Man these lawyers fees I'm gonna rack are going to be awesome!)
"They can defend themselves" is a perfectly good stance to have if you're saying it like :
"We need to provide them a bigger platform so that..."
"they can defend themselves".
I'm being charitable here.
 
You gotta give the guy one thing. He hasn't really changed in 15 years. The Colin on GameFAQs back then was mostly the same person. That was a different world though where Republicans were more saner.

During the Bush Administration? Eh. Not really. Though I know that's a popular revision right now, what with him going on talk shows and being "cute".
 
not having a job is a good way to not pay taxes i guess

The great thing about the internet is that we've finally figured out how to defend ourselves from the Whites. Hit them where it hurts: their job. If we as a community are able to rally every one of these White fucks opens their hateful months and get them fired, I guarantee you they'll be more afraid to speak.
 
I fully believe that person's not a white nationalist, but that person definitely got the wrong tattoo lol
I know you weren't, lol. If I'm remembering correctly (can't check efficiently, I'm on mobile), I agreed with your posts.

I just thought the leap that rump guy took in the space of a few minutes was funny.

I should probably bow out and get back to studying for my last final.
 
Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative doesn't work, and people should stop regurgitating it. How exactly can a person be truly socially liberal with extreme libertarian, small government, "notaxation" views, that actively affects society as a whole?

It's essentially an oxymoron to attempt and make incredibly selfish, "fuck you, got mine" types seem less shady.

Social and Economic can't actually be separated, unless of course, you're only serious about one of them.

Yeah, this attitude has always come across to me as a rightie who hangs out with leftie friends and doesn't want to ostracize themselves with their shitty views. Without taxation infrastructure falls apart for a start, and the only groups that would affect are the marginalized.
 
I'd like to see one quote from Colin that made him 'racist' holy fuck are the mods seeing this shit?

...forget it. I'm done posting it. You can search my post history and find it 20 times in the last week. His comments on PS I Love You saying that blacks and Native Americans don't need white people defending them. That's racist. Period. You might not find it offensive. You might agree with him, but the sentiment that "Each race is on there own out there and if you're not lucky enough to be born white, too bad for you...you should have thought about that before being born into an inherently racist society, then I guess you figure that out", is basically the racist version of "Fuck you, got mine":.
 
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