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[7DollarHagane]

I'll say this period point blank, if I knew of anyone supporting bigotry or who stands behind political or socioeconomic views that are discriminatory in nature, I would bail immediately. No fucking way that ends up on anything associated with me. So if Moriarty isn't a bigot but associates with or agrees with others that are, I can't fathom or relate to that.

But what if that person was a living dumpster fire filled with fireworks and also a car speeding down a hill into an unoccupied gas station that was planned to be demolished anyway?

I'm mobidly curious how bad things get for JonTron when the shit he's been saying comes into the public eye but I am not a "supporter" in any sense.

 

[inpHilltr8r]

Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative doesn't work, and people should stop regurgitating it.

I would like everyone to have ice cream, but I don't want to pay for it.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

I think this means you're a racist. Sorry to be the one to tell you.

 

[ShadyJ]

Fool someone said shit about people who are alt-right being banned here

You said "So you think people with different opinions should be banned? Logical."

I said "If you identify with Alt-Right/Neo-Nazi you have a problem."

Nowhere did I mention Colin Moriarty, who is a dumbass, but not Alt-Right

He does follow philosophies that would fuck over minorities tho...

This isn't about me, this is about Colin.

Don't bring me or my 'suspected' politial beliefs into this to somehow justify your point.

 

[ScientificPizza]

'I'm off to spend more time with my copy of Atlas Shrugged.'

Neither philosophy or politics then.

It's always been funny to me that Libretarianism is basically based on fiction

 

[Servbot24]

Colin really should answer why he's following JonTron.

More viewpoints are always good. Or some bullshit like that.

 

[LionPride]

This isn't about me, this is about Colin.

Don't bring me or my 'suspected' politial beliefs into this to somehow justify your point.

I didn't say shit about you personally, the you being used was the you period. Not you specifically. I should not need to outline this to you.

 

[Tagg9]

If you have views that line up with the Alt-Right/Neo-Nazis...you have a problem

Well you've immediately likened the alt-right with neo-nazis, which isn't a great way to start the conversation. I fall in the middle of liberalism and conservatism, and I've given up trying to express my views on Gaf because it is so incredibly left-leaning.

I don't agree with everything Colin has said, and he can often be aggressive/demeaning with his views, but the passion with which he expresses himself is admirable. The problem, as demonstrated in this very thread, is that people on both sides refer to the other as being definitively wrong. Your way is right and the other person is "objectively" wrong (either morally or socially). This isn't a good way to encourage discourse, nor is it healthy to be closed-minded to all other viewpoints.

 

[ironmang]

Well that sucks. Only really listened to PSILY and can't see it going forward with the same format with anybody else.

 

[Spiral Insanity]

Agreed on this. Not racist though.

Doesn't absolve him of responsibility though, and his apathy towards racism does help enable it.

It's interesting though, because he did leave the Republican Party due to Donald Trump's overtly racist attitude. So props to him for that.

But for some reason he was happy to ignore the fact the fundamentally the same party, with the same attitudes as today, was just as bad back then as it is now. The difference being, was that Romney dressed it all up nicely and only used dog whistles that Colin couldn't hear.



I agree, with you. But Colin has neither associated nor said anything in agreement with Jon Tron lately. He's just followed him on Twitter.

I personally think that aligning with the current GOP administration results in racism and sexism by proxy. Colin is seemingly OK with what is happening to migrants, women's rights, transgender, black people, poor people, etc.

Regardless, it has no place in a company like 'Kinda Funny' and he was the one who should have never brought politics to the table. I hope they can recover from this.

 

[ScientificPizza]

Colin really should answer why he's following JonTron.

Like him following Jon *now* is suspect af

It would not surprise me if he was just doing it to be ~controversial~ but that ain't the kind of controversy you wanna create

 

[Merchandise]

I just started watching some of the KF stuff, and as a newcomer, I can't stress enough how cringeworthy Colin comes off - his views are so amateurish and infantile, lacking any real complexity or profundity. He reminded me a lot of a 12-year-old - just really excited to hear himself speak, regardless of how off-base he was.

So, yea, I guess I'm not too upset by this. Sucks that the "joke" lacked any and all humor in the first place - what an embarrassing way to go.

I can fully understand not liking Colin for those reasons (personally I feel most of his games related opinions are wrong), but it's weird how you could like KF after saying that, as if Greg and Tim aren't also 12 year olds (one loud and obnoxious, the other an annoying fanboy with no substance).

lol?

 

[entremet]

Read the post again. Throwing minorities under the bus because of his economic ideology should tell you enough about his priorities. And when he gets called out for only having white dudes on his show he acts indignant and refuses to change.

It might not be full on Grand Wizard of the KKK, but it's still dirt racism of maintaining the white supremacist status quo and he shows that he's more than fine with maintaining and reproducing it, despite being told otherwise.

This is reaching. Libertarian ideology is not a racial ideology. I do understand what you mean about the naïveté of thinking free market will solve social ills.

 

[Jebusman]

Well you've immediately likened the alt-right with neo-nazis

They are one and the same.

Stop pretending they are not.

Don't "both sides" this.

 

[Ponn]

This isn't about me, this is about Colin.

Don't bring me or my 'suspected' politial beliefs into this to somehow justify your point.

Freedom of speech dude, this is a message board and people are free to discuss what YOU post.

 

[combine42]

Your friend made a mistake.

Hahaha, I feel like any political tattoo is a mistake

 

[LionPride]

Well you've immediately likened the alt-right with neo-nazis, which isn't a healthy way to start the conversation. I fall in the middle of liberalism and conservatism, and I've given up trying to express my views on Gaf because it is so incredibly left-leaning.

I don't agree with everything Colin has said, and he can often be aggressive/demeaning with his views, but the passion with which he expresses himself is admirable. The problem, as demonstrated in this very thread, is that people on both sides refer to the other as being definitively wrong. Your way is right and the other person is "objectively" wrong (either morally or socially). This isn't a good way to encourage discourse, nor is it healthy to be closed-minded to all other viewpoints.

No no, the Alt-Right and Neo-Nazis are the same. They can flip that shit however they want, but that venn diagram is one big ass circle.

Wanting to get rid of welfare programs, fucks with people. It would not help people. Colin believes this and I disagree. I disagree with his personality because he is an obnoxious shit heel who won't listen to reason. I disagree with someone who after making a shitty "joke" called anyone who didn't like it a humorless shitbag.

 

[JordanN]

Still eye-rollingingly stupid

What kind of name is "notaxation" anyway? Is he seriously saying no taxes ever?

 

[Alucrid]

What kind of name is "notaxation" anyway? Is he seriously saying no taxes ever?

https://www.lp.org/issues/taxes/

 

[Weetrick]

What kind of name is "notaxation" anyway? Is he seriously saying no taxes ever?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_taxation_without_representation

 

[firehawk12]

Looking at those twitter follows, I get the impression he's basically trying to tap into an alt-right network to basically set up whatever new patreon or site he's doing. lol

 

[APF]

A lot of libertarians consider themselves rational centrists, when in reality they are just average right-wingers. Because of this the breadth of their political readings / who they pay attention to tend to be centrist left-wingers, average right-wingers / other libertarians, and far right-wingers. Since they share a lot of right-wing views, they have a blindspot for specious far-right arguments and perspectives, even if they don't share them. This is how someone who is nominally pro-minority-rights might consider alt-right nonsense about immigration or cultural supremacy as just another legitimate view they may have disagreements with, while most actual centrists and left-wingers would probably only analyze it to see what insane people are thinking.

 

[Moosichu]

I personally think that aligning with the current GOP administration results in racism and sexism by proxy. Colin is seemingly OK with what is happening to migrants, women's rights, transgender, black people, poor people, etc.

Regardless, it has no place in a company like 'Kinda Funny' and he was the one who should have never brought politics to the table. I hope they can recover from this.

IIRC Colin doesn't like the current administration.

However, who would have been happy with a Romney one, which would have still done tons of damage to all the minorities you have listed.

It's weird, because when the ugly side of the Republican party is staring him in the face, he will disavow it, and strongly. But if it's hidden behind the veneer of respectability, then he's ok with it.

 

[MazeHaze]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_taxation_without_representation

This isn't what he means. He means no taxation period.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

I agree, with you. But Colin has neither associated nor said anything in agreement with Jon Tron lately. He's just followed him on Twitter.

Even a Twitter follow is enough for me. It wouldn't even cross my mind to follow someone like that for any reason. Why would I do that. Why anyone who rejects bigotry would follow a bigot on Twitter, I have no idea. Can't relate. Actions have meaning, even chickenshit like following someone on Twitter.

But what if that person was a living dumpster fire filled with fireworks and also a car speeding down a hill into an unoccupied gas station that was planned to be demolished anyway?

I'm mobidly curious how bad things get for JonTron when the shit he's been saying comes into the public eye but I am not a "supporter" in any sense.

I didn't need to associate myself with him by putting his name on anything of mine to find out what was going on.

 

[MrS]

This isn't what he means. He means no taxation period.

You are mistaken.

 

[combine42]

This rabbit hole is going deeeeeeeep

Alot of aspersions being thrown around here just because people don't find a problem with Colin.

This is hilarious.

It's easier to just call people Nazis these days

 

[GetLucky]

This isn't what he means. He means no taxation period.

How do you figure? I assumed it was a nod to "no taxation without representation" but I could be mistaken.

 

[MazeHaze]

You are mistaken.

I'm not though. He's a libertarian, they literally don't believe in mandatory taxes.

I know it sounds unbeleivably stupid, that's because it is.

 

[Overtech]

IIRC Colin doesn't like the current administration.

Correct. He's called it a shit-show and "amateur hour" since day one. He voted for Gary Johnson because he couldn't "in good conscience" vote for Trump.

Edit: Also, Colin favors the fair tax aka value added tax over income taxes.

 

[Osiris397]

He will be on the game over greggy show tomorrow discussing it.
They discussed it all on the morning show, that the way it happened worked out the best way possible. They all discuss it, Colin may have resigned but Greg still lives in his house, Colin sweeps the floor of the studio it's not all doom and gloom.

Greg doesn't live in Colin's house...they split rent.

It almost sounds like Colin will go to grad school and become a teacher like he planned to do before IGN while having limited appearances on political shows where they are offered and occasional game content where it is available.

 

[Big-ass Ramp]

How do you figure? I assumed it was a nod to "no taxation without representation" but I could be mistaken.

didn't it start around the civil war where the south refused to pay taxes if they couldn't keep slaves? or was that for something else?

 

[Einchy]

Well that's a huge leap. One of my good friends has that as a tattoo he got when he was in college. Hes not any of those things

It's not really a big leap at all, your friend is probably the only person who would use that flag and doesn't hold those videos.

 

[Alucrid]

How do you figure? I assumed it was a nod to "no taxation without representation" but I could be mistaken.

he has representation for his taxation. he's a libertarian who dislike the compulsory taxes that the government "coerces" them to pay. so unless he's from washington DC it's clearly just a play on "no taxation without representation" to show his libertarian views.

 

[Big-ass Ramp]

Correct. He's called it a shit-show and "amateur hour" since day one. He voted for Gary Johnson because he couldn't "in good conscience" vote for Trump.

Sorry, but a vote for anyone but Hillary was a vote for the current fascists regime.

 

[speedomodel]

I'm not though. He's a libertarian, they literally don't believe in mandatory taxes.

I know it sounds unbeleivably stupid, that's because it is.

He does not believe that. He ranted about taxes on a GOG show. He is against the federal tax, if I remember correctly.

 

[Lime]

This is reaching. Libertarian ideology is not a racial ideology. I do understand what you mean about the naïveté of thinking free market will solve social ills.

By itself, maybe, but reading it in the context of his attitude towards minority issues, feminism, and so on should be more than sufficient indication of how much he really cares about rights of oppressed groups. Even when called out on it, for how his show is only with white dudes, he buckles down and reproduces the same diet racism and all-encompassing whiteness while spouting diet racist shit on his show. And that's not introducing the concept of class into the mix of how important poor people are in his view.

Also you cannot separate economic policies from race. Enforcing libertarian policies in a white supremacist country like the US basically is a racist position (ie a condonment of the current power hierarchy of whites dominating material, institutional, legislative, and cultural wealth in the US)

 

[Big-ass Ramp]

Libertarian ideology is not a racial ideology.

LMAO

 

[MazeHaze]

He does not believe that. He ranted about taxes on a GOG show. He is against the federal tax, if I remember correctly.

He is against taxation from the federal government. It's not about representation, it's about believing people shouldn't be forced to give money to the federal government.

 

[rackham]

Sorry, but a vote for anyone but Hillary was a vote for the current fascists regime.

Sorry but you're discrediting any valid argument you have. Shut up please.

 

[Paper Sparrow]

didn't it start around the civil war where the south refused to pay taxes if they couldn't keep slaves? or was that for something else?

Revolutionary War
American colonists felt that certain laws being passed by the British Parliament were unfair because they weren't being represented.

 

[melman101]

I'll take Jared Petty, Altano (although they got Gettys), Clements definitely, or Goldfarb for sure. Any of those would be amazing picks. Or me, Hahahaha just kidding. Although I did start a YouTube channel recently., getting those subscribers / views is hard work Hahahaha.

Anyhow, I will miss the Greg / Colin awesomeness known as Podcast Beyond / PS I Love You XOXO

That being said, Colin wasn't really the same old Colin lately. Or maybe he was Colin's true form. Who knows.

I'm not sure anyone who would want to leave gaming journalism at the level he was at to go into shit politics. Any side, who cares, I watch politics a lot, and it's a snore. Gaming is a lot more fun hahahah

 

[MazeHaze]

Revolutionary War
American colonists felt that certain laws being passed by the British Parliament were unfair because they weren't being represented.

Right, but this has nothing to do with the libertarian belief that nobody should be forced to pay federal taxes, which Colin supports.

 

[beau_beaumont]

This isn't what he means. He means no taxation period.

Nah man. His twitter name and profile pic are both allusions to the revolutionary war. Not sure we can determine his take on taxes based only on two words.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

Right, but this has nothing to do with the libertarian belief that nobody should be foeced to pay federal taxes, which Colin supports.

Yup because he obviously got to vote (supposedly he voted for Johnson). No taxation without representation was about the colonists having to pay the British tax collectors despite not having a say about the colonies or in GB.

He has the same level of representation any other American taxpayer has.

 

[MazeHaze]

Nah man. His twitter name and profile pic are both allusions to the revolutionary war. Not sure we can determine his take on taxes based only on two words.

https://www.lp.org/issues/taxes
He's a libertarian. It's part of their platform.

 

[ScientificPizza]

Nah man. His twitter name and profile pic are both allusions to the revolutionary war. Not sure we can determine his take on taxes based only on two words.

Colin is very vocally against income tax. He literally means no tax

 

[Overtech]

Nah man. His twitter name and profile pic are both allusions to the revolutionary war. Not sure we can determine his take on taxes based only on two words.

He's stated publicly on podcasts that he supports value added tax over income tax.

 

[Paper Sparrow]

Right, but this has nothing to do with the libertarian belief that nobody should be foeced to pay federal taxes, which Colin supports.

Yeah, I agree with you, I just wanted to use some history knowledge.

 

[MazeHaze]

Colin is very vocally against income tax. He literally means no tax

Yeah it's strange all the people denying this. Almost like it's a really stupid view to have or something.